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 Round 6 - Pocono (Jul 17th)

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Petr Hlavac
Diego Gallardo
Mike Becnel
James Knowles
David Jaques
François Remmen
David Sabre
Lewis Stephens
Richard Coxon
Peter Blom
Ludovic Tiengou
Bob Holada
Lee Simpson
Raul Jereb
Bob Wilson
Martin Lacina
Jacob Fredriksson
Jan Kowalski
Michael Drechsler
Jukka Närhi
Alberto Ibañez
Pascal Mikula
Abat Hernaez
Juha Bos
Sky Willis
Scott Urick
Michal Janak
Jason Fitch
Dana Schurer
Jason White
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Alberto Ibañez
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Alberto Ibañez


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Location : International Simracing Organisation
Registration date : 2010-09-17

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Were you playing with B-52s against Tu-95s??
Whiskey - Round 6 - Pocono (Jul 17th) - Page 5 223137 - Votka

"Those were the giants and compared with them we are nothing but dwarves" Round 6 - Pocono (Jul 17th) - Page 5 3108518133  (Athos, in "20 years later" by A. Dumas sr.)

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Bob Wilson
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Bob Wilson


Number of posts : 180
Age : 84
Location : Milwaukee, Wisconsin
Registration date : 2016-03-14

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Alberto Ibañez wrote:
Bob Wilson wrote:
I used to drink that swill when I was stationed at Harmon Air Force Base in Stephenville, Newfoundland back in 1956.  That's the only beer they had on the Base and it was served Luke warm as a result of poor refrigeration.  What a mess that was.Rolling Eyes

Did you fly or were you part of the land crew? 1956 was the time of the F86 Sabre, but I guess at a Newfoundland they didn't station those, but instead some long range bomber. Wasn't that one of the bases that Marilyn visited? scratch

I was a weapons specialists on the F-89-D Scorpion Fighter Interceptor Aircraft.  We defended the Northeast Atlantic Region from Soviet Bombers that would be coming over the North Pole to attack the U.S. We did not have the B-52's but we did have the KC-97 aircraft that refueled the B-52's.  

The F-89's carried Rockets in the wing pods.  Google Northrup F-89-D and you will get a look at the aircraft.  I need to learn how to post pictures  to the forum.

Warm Schaefer Beer= drunken :urgence:

I believe Miss Monroe did visit Harmon Air Force Base after I left in 1957.
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James Knowles
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James Knowles


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Age : 53
Location : USA
Registration date : 2012-04-16

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What is the correct chassis configuration for this venue?

Superspeedway??? I don't think so...

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Scott Urick
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Scott Urick


Number of posts : 228
Age : 57
Location : Ohio
Registration date : 2015-04-17

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James Knowles wrote:
What is the correct chassis configuration for this venue?

Superspeedway???  I don't think so...

Yep. Superspeedway -- but no low downforce, unless the upgrades for chassis config have been locked on something.
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Scott Urick
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Scott Urick


Number of posts : 228
Age : 57
Location : Ohio
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Peter Blom wrote:
Sadly I did not find the time to practice so far therefore I want to give up my one off car for somebody who is waiting for a drive.. Good luck sunday guys...and girl :smil20:

Is it still open, Mr. White?
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Jason White
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Jason White


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Registration date : 2011-12-25

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Scott Urick wrote:
Peter Blom wrote:
Sadly I did not find the time to practice so far therefore I want to give up my one off car for somebody who is waiting for a drive.. Good luck sunday guys...and girl :smil20:

Is it still open, Mr. White?

Yes, but everyone remember that you cannot switch to another open car per the series rules.

No Triple Crown winner this year :smil20:

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Mike Becnel
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Mike Becnel


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Location : Sugar Land, TX, USA
Registration date : 2012-06-24

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Bob's jet the F89

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Scott Urick
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Scott Urick


Number of posts : 228
Age : 57
Location : Ohio
Registration date : 2015-04-17

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As a relative new guy, I have a few questions about the procedures under caution, if I may.


Will the pits be closed when the caution is issued, until the field is established behind the safety car? Or can drivers dive into the pits before forming up behind the safety car?

Under caution, can lapped cars pit when the lead-lap cars pit? Or must they wait until the next lap under caution?

If the game/mod is controlling yellow flags, is there a "Minimum Number of Laps Under Caution" set? If so, how many laps do we get? (It could make a difference on the last stop, if we are on the edge of a fuel window.)

And just a few notes for drivers not familiar with oval track racing in rFactor:

As the series rules say, when the yellow flag is issued the field is frozen. But drivers must slow down safely! DO NOT stand on the brakes or lift off the throttle abruptly -- especially in the corners! rFactor will allow you do over run the car in front of you in order to slow down safely. Just give the position back as soon as possible when can be done reasonably.

The rFactor Message Center will tell you if you are ahead of the car you should be following. And if you have your driver labels turned on, the label of the car you should be following will be in a different color (usually yellow). AND, the person you need follow may change several times over the course of a caution period due to pit stops, etc. So pay attention and stay sharp, even under caution.

And I do not want to contradict the HSO rules, but everything above is true when approaching the safety car at high speed. For instance, a driver has just crossed the start/finish line at 200mph when the yellow flag is issued -- popping up in the upper left corner of your screen and in the message center. DO NOT stand on the brakes to get down to the safety car's 90mph! Slow down reasonably, roll past the safety car but fall back behind when you know you won't get run over from behind.

This is also true at other points on the track. If you misjudge your approach to the safety car or cars already in the formation, over runs are permissible in order not to cause an accident. But a smart driver has one eye on his lap tracker in order to ease up on the field or the safety car without an over run.

If you are racing in a pack or drafting when the caution flag is issued, fan out in case the guy in front slows abruptly. And as you approach, or already in, the formation, ALWAYS keep one eye on your mirrors for the driver who misjudged the approach. If a driver is coming in hot, use your best judgment on which way to go to prevent someone else from ruining your race.

The whole point is to ALWAYS pay close attention to your surroundings! Caution periods on an oval are more treacherous than green flag conditions. During green, you and the cars immediately around you have a say in how your race goes. Under caution, the whole field has the chance to wreck your day!
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I beg the forgiveness of the admins if I have over stepped my bounds. But, as someone who has committed everyone of the mistakes I listed above, I just wanted to offer some help to guys who are trying to figure out what I have failed at in the past.

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Ludovic Tiengou
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Ludovic Tiengou


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Location : Grenoble far away from Brittany, France
Registration date : 2008-12-12

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The Scorpio, one of the ugliest interceptor the US ever produced.

1956? wasn't B-36 and B-47 who were still dominant in SAC? It's barely a year after the launch of the B-52 in operational service.

For the record In USSR the T-95 was just entering in service. It's still T-4 and T-20 who were the main planes in strategic bombing.


BAck to race topic. My gout crisis is still there. Can't train as I need to. The race will be utmost difficult at best for sure pale

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Jacob Fredriksson
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Jacob Fredriksson


Number of posts : 1047
Age : 33
Location : Sweden
Registration date : 2014-01-15

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Scott Urick wrote:
The whole point is to ALWAYS pay close attention to your surroundings! Caution periods on an oval are more treacherous than green flag conditions. During green, you and the cars immediately around you have a say in how your race goes. Under caution, the whole field has the chance to wreck your day!

This, a thousand times THIS! Been run over too many times under caution, it must not happen again.

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Bob Wilson
Club Driver
Bob Wilson


Number of posts : 180
Age : 84
Location : Milwaukee, Wisconsin
Registration date : 2016-03-14

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Ludovic Tiengou wrote:
The Scorpio, one of the ugliest interceptor the US ever produced.

1956? wasn't B-36 and B-47 who were still dominant in SAC? It's barely a year after the launch of the B-52 in operational service.

For the record In USSR the T-95 was just entering in service. It's still T-4 and T-20 who were the main planes in strategic bombing.


Ludovic, you are correct...B-47's & B-36's....Brain fart from an old fart. scratch
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Jason White
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Jason White


Number of posts : 14725
Age : 45
Location : Ferndale, MI USA
Registration date : 2011-12-25

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Scott Urick wrote:
As a relative new guy, I have a few questions about the procedures under caution, if I may.

Will the pits be closed when the caution is issued, until the field is established behind the safety car? Or can drivers dive into the pits before forming up behind the safety car?

Under caution, can lapped cars pit when the lead-lap cars pit? Or must they wait until the next lap under caution?

If the game/mod is controlling yellow flags, is there a "Minimum Number of Laps Under Caution" set? If so, how many laps do we get? (It could make a difference on the last stop, if we are on the edge of a fuel window.)

The pits will not close when cautions are issued, so you can dive into the pits when the opportunity presents itself.  

There is no rule saying lead lap cars pit before lapped cars.

The laps under caution are randomized; if you look in the mod rfm, it will tell you the minimum.

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Scott Urick
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Scott Urick


Number of posts : 228
Age : 57
Location : Ohio
Registration date : 2015-04-17

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Thank you, Jason. The clarification is appreciated greatly.

Please forgive me, I have a follow-up question . . .

I tested my first question in an off-line race with the AI. When the yellow came out, I dove into the pits immediately off of Turn 3 (before crossing start/finish and catching up to the safety car). All of the work on the car was completed, but when I re-joined the track and took my place at the back of the formation (still under yellow), I was assessed a drive-thru penalty.

Is that merely a difference between my machine off-line and the HSO server on-line? Or do we actually have to take the yellow flag at start/finish before coming in the next time around?
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Diego Gallardo
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Diego Gallardo


Number of posts : 1
Age : 31
Location : Mexico
Registration date : 2016-07-08

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Hello! I'm very interested in race with you guys and I will be very glad if you let me do it
As I've read some days ago Mr. Scott Ulrich introduce myself after I entered your server and put a lap on it (I'm really sorry that I didn't read the whole rules before that, will never happen again).

So may I please drive the #97 Rick Muther for this race? :frank:
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Jason White
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Jason White


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**A procedural note for tomorrow's race**

The mod is set so the pits do not close under yellow.  HOWEVER -- we have had reports of instances where cars are given drive-through penalties if they pit immediately, on the lap the yellow is declared (in essence, not waiting for the pace car to collect the field).  Therefore, we strongly recommend that everyone wait until the lap after the yellow is declared to pit.

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Abat Hernaez
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Abat Hernaez


Number of posts : 203
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Location : Ibarra, Spain
Registration date : 2010-07-19

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Sadly i must step off from this race, i have an unexpected appointment and can`t arrive on time :doh:

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Petr Hlavac
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Petr Hlavac


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Location : Brno, Czech Republic
Registration date : 2015-01-11

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I'll get back from my vacation shortly before the race. With no training and after a long drive back home, i don't feel being ready for a 500 miler. My Eagle #18 is free. Sorry for late notice.
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Michal Janak
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Michal Janak


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Registration date : 2010-03-25

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Jason White wrote:
**A procedural note for tomorrow's race**

The mod is set so the pits do not close under yellow.  HOWEVER -- we have had reports of instances where cars are given drive-through penalties if they pit immediately, on the lap the yellow is declared (in essence, not waiting for the pace car to collect the field).  Therefore, we strongly recommend that everyone wait until the lap after the yellow is declared to pit.

it is bad if you for example got punctured tyre or anything in crash (causing the Yellow phase) that you must drive another lap with car in bad condition

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Mike Becnel
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Mike Becnel


Number of posts : 4741
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Location : Sugar Land, TX, USA
Registration date : 2012-06-24

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:conduit:

(thought I posted already!)

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Scott Urick
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Scott Urick


Number of posts : 228
Age : 57
Location : Ohio
Registration date : 2015-04-17

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Michal Janak wrote:

it is bad if you for example got punctured tyre or anything in crash (causing the Yellow phase) that you must drive another lap with car in bad condition

It certainly isn't favorable, but only a minor inconvenience since you are already facing a long pit stop anyway. I would advise going ahead and pitting before taking the yellow at start/finish and trying to catch up to the field for several reasons. Among them being: your crew will still do all the work on your car, avoid further damage to the car, the car might not make it that far anyway, your crew may need the extra time to repair damage while the field makes their initial lap under yellow saving you from losing additional laps, you're going to restart at the back of the field anyway, etc. The pass-thru penalty is a small price to pay if it saves you track position while repairing damage.

I was merely exploring the advantage of diving into the pits before taking the yellow to advance position when the rest of the field followed the pace car and came in one lap later. At which point, I would pass everyone pitting then. But being assessed the penalty eliminates any advantage to doing it. (It's something Donahue would have tried.)

But if you need to repair damage, it's well worth trying it.
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Sky Willis
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Sky Willis


Number of posts : 188
Age : 35
Location : Wales
Registration date : 2016-07-02

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i can't make it tonight, sorry this is pretty last minute. was really looking forward to this after putting in a ton of practice, but its a family emergency type situation and i've got to go. hopefully theres still time for someone to put my car to good use.

sorry Sad
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Jan Kowalski
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What is recommended for graphic setting? I dont care about strange skies, but a stable game tonight. Any experience with this track?

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Jason White
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Registration date : 2011-12-25

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This track is rather high in FPS so I recommend setting the competitors cars to medium detail and the number of visible cars to 10. Also shadows to medium.

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François Remmen
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Registration date : 2012-12-22

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wanne wish everybody a good race tonight
and enjoy the track

will be watching tomorrow the race
Mike stay out of trouble you nut! lol!

:D :D
in our city its the 4 days world walking festival :D

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I echo Mr. Remmen's sentiments. Good luck to you all Smile
Finally get to wear my Schaefer shirt for the Schaefer 500

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