1973 Indianapolis 500 Time Trials [May 24th]

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1973 Indianapolis 500 Time Trials

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These time trials will determine the starting grid for our 1973 Indianapolis 500 Mile Race.

For our Time Trials, we will be using HSO 1973 Championship Cars v1.0 with this 1.0b update for Indy.

The race will take place on JP's 1973 Indianapolis Motor Speedway.

Those drivers with older computers are advised to reduce their detail levels prior to logging on.

Time Trials Overview

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The following is the May 24th Time Trial schedule.
All times listed are Paris time.

20h00 - Time Trials commence (please select superspeedway configuration)
22h00 - 15 minute break
22h15 - Time Trials resume
00h15 - Time Trials end

Server no: 91.121.135.76:34600
Game name is: Historic Simracing USAC73
Password is: hso73

Drivers are initially scheduled in order of car number (drivers are allowed to swap time slots or request to be moved to a vacated slot; please announce any swaps or requests in this thread). In the event of an accident, late arrival, no-show or wave-off, the driver in question will be added to the end of the list and the next driver scheduled will attempt to qualify. As each qualifying run is completed/rescheduled on May 24th, this table, as well as the provisional lineup below it, will be updated in real time. Please plan to log on at least 10 minutes before your time slot. If the four-lap runs are completed faster than expected, there *may* be time for extra runs before the end of the session, but the session will still end at 00h15. **If you cannot make your scheduled time, please let the admins know before Time Trials by posting in this thread; this will save valuable time for others to qualify** Complete qualification rules are listed below this table. Lap times and speed averages over 200 mph will be indicated in the table with bold type.

Car#	2015 HSO Driver	Time (Paris time)	Lap 1 (sec)	Lap 2 (sec)	Lap 3 (sec)	Lap 4 (sec)	Total Time/Result	Speed (mph)
1	Jason White	20h00-20h05	45.411	45.417	45.071	45.171	3m01.070s	198.818
2	Raul Jereb	20h05-20h10	47.128	46.784	47.205	--	OUT OF FUEL	N/A
3	Steven Duckunue	20h10-20h15	--	--	--	--	NO-SHOW	N/A
4	Jean-François Bovy	20h15-20h20	--	--	--	--	BLOWN ENGINE	N/A
5	Yves Plaçais	20h20-20h25	45.118	45.023	44.935	45.086	3m00.162s	199.820
62	Alberto Ibañez	20h25-20h30	45.215	45.122	45.115	45.082	3m00.533s	199.410
7	Richard Coxon	20h30-20h35	44.988	44.566	44.604	44.507	2m58.665s	201.494
8	Mike Becnel	20h35-20h40	44.608	44.622	44.598	44.476	2m58.304s	201.902
9	Dave Miller	20h40-20h45	47.638	47.553	47.502	--	CRASH	N/A
11	Charlie Cone	20h45-20h50	44.910	44.622	44.561	44.324	2m58.417s	201.775
12	Tyler Greene	20h50-20h55	45.007	44.634	44.569	46.410	3m00.620s	199.314
14	Richard Wilks	20h55-21h00	46.455	46.193	46.160	46.010	3m04.818s	194.786
15	Trevor Greene	21h00-21h05	45.094	44.813	44.681	44.640	2m59.228s	200.862
16	Lee Simpson	21h05-21h10	46.665	46.266	46.336	45.989	3m05.256s	194.326
18	Dana Schurer	21h10-21h15	45.935	45.507	45.388	45.363	3m02.193s	197.593
19	Claudio Navonne	21h15-21h20	46.640	46.602	46.632	46.304	3m06.178s	193.363
20	Peter Blom	21h20-21h25	44.924	44.929	44.964	44.922	2m59.739s	200.290
21	Vincent Beretta	21h25-21h30	45.437	45.616	45.448	45.362	3m01.863s	197.951
60	Jean-Louis Petillot	21h30-21h35	45.633	45.245	45.139	45.168	3m01.185s	198.692
24	Jukka Maattanen	21h35-21h40	45.989	45.710	45.741	45.625	3m03.065s	196.652
59	David Sabre	21h40-21h45	48.892	49.181	48.633	48.874	3m15.580s	184.068
28	Jonatan Acerclinth	21h45-21h50	49.751	49.468	50.178	49.700	3m19.097s	180.816
34	Mick Chapman	21h50-21h55	46.115	45.936	45.846	45.898	3m03.795s	195.870
35	Sven Selbmann	21h55-22h00	45.565	45.445	45.454	45.357	3m01.821s	197.997
		15 MINUTE BREAK
40	Gérard Ryon	22h15-22h20	45.320	44.961	44.685	44.513	2m59.479s	200.581
44	Jay John	22h20-22h25	47.190	46.553	46.565	46.561	3m06.869s	192.648
45	Alessio Campigotto	22h25-22h30	48.612	48.485	48.286	48.178	3m13.561s	185.988
48	Pascal le Pihive	22h30-22h35	44.956	44.607	49.161	45.458	3m04.182s	195.459
64	Arturo Pereira	22h35-22h40	--	--	--	--	TECHNICAL ISSUE	N/A
--	--	22h40-22h45	--	--	--	--	--	--
61	Doni Yourth	22h45-22h50	--	--	--	--	NO-SHOW	N/A
6	Jason Fitch	22h50-22h55	45.309	45.315	45.156	47.016	3m02.796s	196.941
63	Francois Steimetz	22h55-23h00	--	--	--	--	NO-SHOW	N/A
--	--	23h00-23h05	--	--	--	--	--	--
66	Marc Cohn	23h05-23h10	44.763	44.593	44.700	44.490	2m58.546s	201.629
73	François Remmen	23h10-23h15	45.731	45.840	45.816	45.442	3m02.829s	196.905
77	German Soto	23h15-23h20	--	--	--	--	BLOWN ENGINE	N/A
84	Humbert Jeremy	23h20-23h25	--	--	--	--	NO-SHOW	N/A
86	Rocky Calabrese	23h25-23h30	45.095	45.017	44.937	44.890	2m59.939s	200.068
89	Philippe Bousquet	23h30-23h35	48.725	48.652	48.595	48.541	3m14.513s	185.078
98	Simon Wattman	23h35-23h40	48.080	47.830	47.897	47.428	3m11.235s	188.250
2	Raul Jereb	-	--	--	--	--	NO-SHOW	N/A
3	Steven Duckunue	-	49.795	48.332	--	--	CRASH	N/A
4	Jean-François Bovy	-	46.512	46.281	46.267	46.152	3m05.212s	194.372
9	Dave Miller	-	48.775	47.655	47.954	47.875	3m12.259s	187.247
64	Arturo Pereira	-	45.322	45.358	45.306	45.148	3m01.134s	198.748
61	Doni Yourth	-	48.613	48.466	48.361	48.258	3m13.698s	185.856
63	Francois Steimetz	-	--	--	--	--	NO-SHOW	N/A
84	Humbert Jeremy	-	--	--	--	--	NO-SHOW	N/A
77	German Soto	-	--	--	--	--	NO-SHOW	N/A
2	Raul Jereb	-	--	--	--	--	NO-SHOW	N/A
3	Steven Duckunue	-	--	--	--	--	TECHNICAL ISSUE	N/A
28	Jonatan Acerclinth	-	--	--	--	--	CRASH	N/A
3	Steven Duckunue	-	49.152	48.051	47.838	--	CRASH	N/A
28	Jonatan Acerclinth	-	49.563	49.189	49.261	49.095	3m17.108s	182.641
3	Steven Duckunue	-	50.388	49.294	48.146	--	CRASH	N/A

Provisional Lineup (dashed line indicates 33 car cut-off)

33 cars have qualified

Car# | Name | Speed (mph)

8 | Mike Becnel | 201.902
11 | Charlie Cone | 201.775
66 | Marc Cohn | 201.629

7 | Richard Coxon | 201.494
15 | Trevor Greene | 200.862
40 | Gerard Ryon | 200.581

20 | Peter Blom | 200.290
86 | Rocky Calabrese | 200.068
5 | Yves Placais | 199.820

62 | Alberto Ibanez | 199.410
12 | Tyler Greene | 199.314

1 | Jason White | 198.818

64 | Arturo Pereira 198.748

60 | Jean-Louis Petillot | 198.692

35 | Sven Selbmann | 197.997

21 | Vincent Beretta | 197.951

18 | Dana Schurer | 197.593

6 | Jason Fitch | 196.941

73 | Francois Remmen | 196.905

24 | Jukka Maattanen | 196.652

34 | Mick Chapman | 195.870

48 | Pascal le Pihive | 195.459

14 | Richard Wilks | 194.786

4 | Jean-Francois Bovy | 194.372

16 | Lee Simpson | 194.326

19 | Claudio Navonne | 193.363

44 | Jay John | 192.648

98 | Simon Wattman | 188.250

9 | Dave Miller | 187.247

45 | Alessio Campigotto | 185.988

61 | Doni Yourth | 185.856

89 | Philippe Bousquet | 185.078

59 | David Sabre | 184.068

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28 | Jonatan Acerclinth | 182.641

1973 Indianapolis 500 Time Trials [May 24th] IMjYhy

The following rules will be observed for Time Trials:

- Drivers are initially scheduled in order of car number (drivers are allowed to swap time slots or request to be moved to a vacated slot; please announce any swaps or requests in this thread).

- Qualifying runs are divided into 5-minute increments.

- In the case of an accident, late arrival, no-show or wave-off, the driver in question will be added to the end of the qualifying list and the next driver scheduled will attempt to qualify.

- A qualifying run will consist of one warm up lap (i.e. the out-lap), followed by four timed laps.

- The total time of the four timed laps will be each driver's qualifying time, which will then be converted to MPH for their qualifying speed.

- During the Time Trial session, drivers may proceed to the track only when called on by the admin(s). Drivers are allowed to park on the pit lane as they wait their turn in order to save time.

- When setting out for an attempt, if a driver knocks off their front wing or blows the engine before leaving the pits, they are allowed one more chance to enter the track successfully. If they blow their engine on the track itself, they will have to try to qualifying again later. One attempt will not be charged to the car in this case.

- The out-lap rules regarding staying below the painted lines until turn 2 exit will not apply during Time Trials.

- Absolutely NO chatting is allowed while a qualifying run is underway.

- Each car has up to three chances to qualify, HOWEVER, this is not a guarantee that there will be enough time in the session for one car to make three attempts.

- A driver may wave off their attempt if they feel it is too slow. One attempt will still be charged to the car.

- If a driver wants a second attempt, they must wave off their first attempt before it is complete (ideally this would be done by slowing down and typing "wave off" in the chat). The times from the first attempt are discarded, and the driver's name is added to the end of the qualy list to try again after all the originally scheduled runs have been attempted/abandoned.

- Once a run has been completed, that is the car's qualifying time and speed, unless it is bumped from the 33-car provisional lineup.

- Once a run has been completed, drivers should bring their car to a stop in the short chute between turns 1 and 2, and hit 'esc' -- this will ensure that they are not in the way when the next scheduled car takes to the track.

- If the four-lap runs are completed faster than expected, there may be time for extra runs before the end of the session, but the session will still end at 00h15.

- If a car is bumped out of the provisional lineup, the driver of said car may ask via chat to be put at the end of the list in an attempt to qualify again. There is no guarantee that there will be enough time available at the end of the session for this, but if there is, the option exists.

- At 00h15 CET, if a driver is in the middle of a qualifying run, they will be allowed to complete the run.

- Only the fastest 33 cars will be allowed to start the 500 mile race on May 31st. In the event that less than 33 qualify, the remainder of the field will be filled on a first-come, first-served basis on Race Day.* In the event that 33 qualify and there are drivers too slow to make the 33 car field, up to three alternates will be named (34th, 35th and 36th fastest) for Race Day, in the case that one or more of the qualified cars do not appear.

- *Drivers who only show up on Race Day MUST have a car booked in the Entry List.

Behaviour on track

A few behaviour rules :

- as for all HSO events, it is required you use your real name both in-game and on the forum. Thank you.

- DO NOT enter the track under a red condition

Application and Interpretation of the Regulations

The admins alone are qualified to solve any problems raised by the application and the interpretation of the present regulations.

Web TV Coverage

Our Time Trials will carried live on PaddockTV. Click here for the broadcast link.

1973 Indianapolis 500 Time Trials [May 24th] 0AHr8y

1973 Indianapolis 500 Time Trials [May 24th] 0AHr8y

Guest

Does the one warmup lap mean the out lap?

Subject: Re: 1973 Indianapolis 500 Time Trials [May 24th] Sun 19 Apr 2015 - 8:01

Rocky Calabrese wrote:: Does the one warmup lap mean the out lap?

Yes

Guest

Thanks!

anybody done a lap without lifting? So far I have to lift at T1 and T3 with 1000HP setup bounce

The question is not wether to lift or not, the question is wether to brake or not affraid

You have to lift (Unless you use so much wing you no longer are competitive in straight line), but you can tap the brakes a bit before turn entry or simply lift. That is something that depends on your setup.

whoops I was running max downforce LOL study

For 1000 HP cars wings for qualy will be around 20/15 or 18/14 depending on what works best for your driving style. Balance first the aero, then go for the rest. If the rear tends to step out quickly and in a violent way, your are most likely running too much rear anti roll bar.

Guest

So, what average speeds are we expecting, close to the real thing in '73?

Paul M Jones wrote:: So, what average speeds are we expecting, close to the real thing in '73?

I expect pole to be faster than the 198.413 Rutherford posted in RL.

I think that breaking the 200 mph barrier is not that hard with the best 1000 HP cars, and we will see people do it in training. But being able to do it in official qualy is another matter, as the tires take long to warm up and 5 laps might not be enough Twisted Evil

200 average isn't hard to attain, but as Alberto has said, it will be hard in qualifying. We might see some breaking it on Lap 4. But the tires need 3, at minimum, laps to warm-up.

I've run 200 in offline practice with a couple simple changes to the default setup. Now, it was scary as hell, and I wouldn't recommend it, it was squirrely as all get out.

Subject: Re: 1973 Indianapolis 500 Time Trials [May 24th] Tue 21 Apr 2015 - 0:37

Quote :: I've run 200 in offline practice with a couple simple changes to the default setup. Now, it was scary as hell, and I wouldn't recommend it, it was squirrely as all get out.

Yes that's another factor ... will anyone risk botching his qualy run just to attempt breaking the 200 MPH mark?

In our virtual race, starting position will count even less than in the real life race, so personally I am going to play it safe. Smile

Subject: Re: 1973 Indianapolis 500 Time Trials [May 24th] Tue 21 Apr 2015 - 0:58

Just ran my first 200 mph + lap while practicing with Trevor!

44.935 seconds | 200.289 mph in a VPJ2

And then Trevor posted a 44.832 | 200.750 mph in an M16C

Champagne flowing in the Parnelli and McLaren garages! :champ:

Subject: Re: 1973 Indianapolis 500 Time Trials [May 24th] Tue 21 Apr 2015 - 1:09

The other thing to consider, I've noticed that at Max Boost, the engine is a LOT more sensitive to the Revs. I dunno how many times I've blown up just trying to leave my Garage, Gasoline Alley, exiting pit road, shifting up into 3rd at speed. It's REALLY touchy at the 1000 bhp boost level.

Subject: Re: 1973 Indianapolis 500 Time Trials [May 24th] Tue 21 Apr 2015 - 1:13

Jason Fitch wrote:: The other thing to consider, I've noticed that at Max Boost, the engine is a LOT more sensitive to the Revs. I dunno how many times I've blown up just trying to leave my Garage, Gasoline Alley, exiting pit road, shifting up into 3rd at speed. It's REALLY touchy at the 1000 bhp boost level.

Anything over 9500 revs spells doom, that's why we put that red needle on the tach.

Subject: Re: 1973 Indianapolis 500 Time Trials [May 24th] Tue 21 Apr 2015 - 1:57

9501 rpm = new Top Gear coffee table!

Guest

Mike Becnel wrote:: 9501 rpm = new Top Gear coffee table!

Last edited by Jason White on Tue 21 Apr 2015 - 15:10; edited 1 time in total

One other thing to consider. If people blow through the 200 mph barrier by a considerable margin on the server, they may have done so with the aid of slipstream. Such conditions will not exist in qualifying. Wink

Guest

Are we going to be able to join the server during the qualifying sessions as the end of the real Indy 500 will overlap with the start of the session?

Alan Forster wrote:: Are we going to be able to join the server during the qualifying sessions as the end of the real Indy 500 will overlap with the start of the session?

People will be coming and going. Everyone will have an assigned time slot.

Alan Forster wrote:: Are we going to be able to join the server during the qualifying sessions as the end of the real Indy 500 will overlap with the start of the session?

Better get the DVR warmed up.

Quote :: Just ran my first 200 mph + lap while practicing with Trevor!

44.935 seconds | 200.289 mph in a VPJ2

And then Trevor posted a 44.832 | 200.750 mph in an M16C

Champagne flowing in the Parnelli and McLaren garages!

Too easy!

Incoming patch with reduced tire grip! :jp:

Seriously, we will see how many guys do that in 5 laps under Qualy conditions and with the risk of blowing the engine or botching their average speed by bruising the wall Smile

I will be lucky if i can get close to the 195 mph mark Sad

But the race might be a different matter! :yaa:

Alberto Ibañez wrote:: Seriously, we will see how many guys do that in 5 laps under Qualy conditions and with the risk of blowing the engine or botching their average speed by bruising the wall

Yeah. Plus the pressure of qualy and if you do make a mistake and crash, having to go to the end of the line and hoping there is enough time to do another run!

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