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 1973 Indianapolis 500 Time Trials [May 24th]

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Yves Plaçais
François Remmen
Claudio Navonne
Mick Chapman
Gérard Ryon
Sven Selbmann
Arturo Pereira
Raul Jereb
Doni Yourth
Pascal Le pihive
Steve Parker
Jean-François Bovy
Jean-louis Petillot
Dave Miller
Richard Coxon
Frank Verplanken
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Alessio Campigotto
David Sabre
Jukka Närhi
Scott Urick
Richard Wilks
Jason Fitch
Mike Becnel
Alberto Ibañez
Peter Blom
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1973 Indianapolis 500 Time Trials


  
1973 Indianapolis 500 Time Trials [May 24th] Round4


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These time trials will determine the starting grid for our 1973 Indianapolis 500 Mile Race.
For our Time Trials, we will be using HSO 1973 Championship Cars v1.0 with this 1.0b update for Indy.
The race will take place on JP's 1973 Indianapolis Motor Speedway. 
Those drivers with older computers are advised to reduce their detail levels prior to logging on. 
      
Time Trials Overview
   
1973 Indianapolis 500 Time Trials [May 24th] 210 1973 Indianapolis 500 Time Trials [May 24th] Clock_PNG6614 

The following is the May 24th Time Trial schedule.
All times listed are Paris time.

20h00 - Time Trials commence (please select superspeedway configuration)
22h00 - 15 minute break

22h15 - Time Trials resume
00h15 - Time Trials end  

Server no: 91.121.135.76:34600
Game name is: Historic Simracing USAC73
Password is: hso73


Drivers are initially scheduled in order of car number (drivers are allowed to swap time slots or request to be moved to a vacated slot; please announce any swaps or requests in this thread).  In the event of an accident, late arrival, no-show or wave-off, the driver in question will be added to the end of the list and the next driver scheduled will attempt to qualify.  As each qualifying run is completed/rescheduled on May 24th, this table, as well as the provisional lineup below it, will be updated in real time.  Please plan to log on at least 10 minutes before your time slot.  If the four-lap runs are completed faster than expected, there *may* be time for extra runs before the end of the session, but the session will still end at 00h15. **If you cannot make your scheduled time, please let the admins know before Time Trials by posting in this thread; this will save valuable time for others to qualify** Complete qualification rules are listed below this table.  Lap times and speed averages over 200 mph will be indicated in the table with bold type.

Car#2015 HSO Driver    Time (Paris time)Lap 1 (sec)Lap 2 (sec)Lap 3 (sec)Lap 4 (sec)Total Time/Result Speed (mph)
1
Jason White
20h00-20h05
45.411
45.417
45.071
45.171
3m01.070s
198.818
2
Raul Jereb
20h05-20h10
47.128
46.784
47.205
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OUT OF FUEL
N/A
3
Steven Duckunue
20h10-20h15
--
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NO-SHOW
N/A
4
Jean-François Bovy  
20h15-20h20
--
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BLOWN ENGINE
N/A
5
Yves Plaçais
20h20-20h25
45.118
45.023
44.935
45.086
3m00.162s
199.820
62Alberto Ibañez
20h25-20h30
45.215
45.122
45.115
45.082
3m00.533s
199.410
7
Richard Coxon
20h30-20h35
44.988
44.566
44.604
44.507
2m58.665s
201.494
8
Mike Becnel
20h35-20h40
44.608
44.622
44.598
44.476
2m58.304s
201.902
9
Dave Miller
20h40-20h45
47.638
47.553
47.502
--
CRASH
N/A
11
Charlie Cone
20h45-20h50
44.910
44.622
44.561
44.324
2m58.417s
201.775
12
Tyler Greene
20h50-20h55
45.007
44.634
44.569
46.410
3m00.620s
199.314
14
Richard Wilks
20h55-21h00
46.455
46.193
46.160
46.010
3m04.818s
194.786
15
Trevor Greene
21h00-21h05
45.094
44.813
44.681
44.640
2m59.228s
200.862
16
Lee Simpson
21h05-21h10
46.665
46.266
46.336
45.989
3m05.256s
194.326
18
Dana Schurer
21h10-21h15
45.935
45.507
45.388
45.363
3m02.193s
197.593
19
Claudio Navonne
21h15-21h20
46.640
46.602
46.632
46.304
3m06.178s
193.363
20
Peter Blom
21h20-21h25
44.924
44.929
44.964
44.922
2m59.739s
200.290
21
Vincent Beretta
21h25-21h30
45.437
45.616
45.448
45.362
3m01.863s
197.951
60
Jean-Louis Petillot
21h30-21h35
45.633
45.245
45.139
45.168
3m01.185s
198.692
24
Jukka Maattanen
21h35-21h40
45.989
45.710
45.741
45.625
3m03.065s
196.652
59
David Sabre
21h40-21h45
48.892
49.181
48.633
48.874
3m15.580s
184.068
28
Jonatan Acerclinth
21h45-21h50
49.751
49.468
50.178
49.700
3m19.097s
180.816
34
Mick Chapman
21h50-21h55
46.115
45.936
45.846
45.898
3m03.795s
195.870
35
Sven Selbmann
21h55-22h00
45.565
45.445
45.454
45.357
3m01.821s
197.997
15 MINUTE BREAK
40
Gérard Ryon
22h15-22h20
45.320
44.961
44.685
44.513
2m59.479s
200.581
44
Jay John
22h20-22h25
47.190
46.553
46.565
46.561
3m06.869s
192.648
45
Alessio Campigotto
22h25-22h30
48.612
48.485
48.286
48.178
3m13.561s
185.988
48
Pascal le Pihive
22h30-22h35
44.956
44.607
49.161
45.458
3m04.182s
195.459
64
Arturo Pereira
22h35-22h40
--
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TECHNICAL ISSUE
N/A
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--
22h40-22h45
--
--
--
--
--
--
61
Doni Yourth
22h45-22h50
--
--
--
--
NO-SHOW
N/A
6Jason Fitch
22h50-22h55
45.309
45.315
45.156
47.016
3m02.796s
196.941
63
Francois Steimetz
22h55-23h00
--
--
--
--
NO-SHOW
N/A
--
--
23h00-23h05
--
--
--
--
--
--
66
Marc Cohn
23h05-23h10
44.763
44.593
44.700
44.490
2m58.546s
201.629
73
François Remmen23h10-23h15
45.731
45.840
45.816
45.4423m02.829s
196.905
77
German Soto
23h15-23h20
--
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--
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BLOWN ENGINEN/A
84
Humbert Jeremy
23h20-23h25
--
--
--
--
NO-SHOW
N/A
86
Rocky Calabrese
23h25-23h30
45.09545.017
44.937
44.890
2m59.939s
200.068
89
Philippe Bousquet
23h30-23h35
48.725
48.652
48.595
48.541
3m14.513s
185.078
98Simon Wattman23h35-23h4048.08047.83047.89747.4283m11.235s188.250
2Raul Jereb---------NO-SHOWN/A
3Steven Duckunue-49.79548.332----CRASHN/A
4 Jean-François Bovy-46.51246.28146.26746.1523m05.212s194.372
9Dave Miller-48.77547.65547.95447.8753m12.259s187.247
64Arturo Pereira-45.32245.35845.30645.1483m01.134s198.748
61Doni Yourth-48.61348.46648.36148.2583m13.698s185.856
63Francois Steimetz---------NO-SHOWN/A
84Humbert Jeremy---------NO-SHOWN/A
77German Soto---------NO-SHOWN/A
2Raul Jereb---------NO-SHOWN/A
3Steven Duckunue---------TECHNICAL ISSUEN/A
28 Jonatan Acerclinth---------CRASHN/A
3Steven Duckunue-49.15248.05147.838--CRASHN/A
28 Jonatan Acerclinth-49.56349.18949.26149.0953m17.108s182.641
3Steven Duckunue-50.38849.29448.146--CRASHN/A
   
Provisional Lineup (dashed line indicates 33 car cut-off)


33 cars have qualified

Car# | Name | Speed (mph)

8 | Mike Becnel | 201.902
11 | Charlie Cone | 201.775
66 | Marc Cohn | 201.629

7 | Richard Coxon | 201.494
15 | Trevor Greene | 200.862
40 | Gerard Ryon | 200.581

20 | Peter Blom | 200.290
86 | Rocky Calabrese | 200.068
5 | Yves Placais | 199.820

62 | Alberto Ibanez | 199.410
12 | Tyler Greene | 199.314
1 | Jason White | 198.818 

64 | Arturo Pereira 198.748
60 | Jean-Louis Petillot | 198.692
35 | Sven Selbmann | 197.997

21 | Vincent Beretta | 197.951
18 | Dana Schurer | 197.593
6 | Jason Fitch | 196.941

73 | Francois Remmen | 196.905
24 | Jukka Maattanen | 196.652
34 | Mick Chapman | 195.870

48 | Pascal le Pihive | 195.459
14 | Richard Wilks | 194.786
4 | Jean-Francois Bovy | 194.372

16 | Lee Simpson | 194.326
19 | Claudio Navonne | 193.363
44 | Jay John | 192.648

98 | Simon Wattman | 188.250
9 | Dave Miller | 187.247
45 | Alessio Campigotto | 185.988

61 | Doni Yourth | 185.856
89 | Philippe Bousquet | 185.078
59 | David Sabre | 184.068

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28 | Jonatan Acerclinth | 182.641

       


       
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The following rules will be observed for Time Trials:


Drivers are initially scheduled in order of car number (drivers are allowed to swap time slots or request to be moved to a vacated slot; please announce any swaps or requests in this thread).

- Qualifying runs are divided into 5-minute increments.

In the case of an accident, late arrival, no-show or wave-off, the driver in question will be added to the end of the qualifying list and the next driver scheduled will attempt to qualify. 

- A qualifying run will consist of one warm up lap (i.e. the out-lap), followed by four timed laps.

- The total time of the four timed laps will be each driver's qualifying time, which will then be converted to MPH for their qualifying speed.

During the Time Trial session, drivers may proceed to the track only when called on by the admin(s).  Drivers are allowed to park on the pit lane as they wait their turn in order to save time.

- When setting out for an attempt, if a driver knocks off their front wing or blows the engine before leaving the pits, they are allowed one more chance to enter the track successfully.  If they blow their engine on the track itself, they will have to try to qualifying again later. One attempt will not be charged to the car in this case.

- The out-lap rules regarding staying below the painted lines until turn 2 exit will not apply during Time Trials.

- Absolutely NO chatting is allowed while a qualifying run is underway.

- Each car has up to three chances to qualify, HOWEVER, this is not a guarantee that there will be enough time in the session for one car to make three attempts.

- A driver may wave off their attempt if they feel it is too slow. One attempt will still be charged to the car.

- If a driver wants a second attempt, they must wave off their first attempt before it is complete (ideally this would be done by slowing down and typing "wave off" in the chat). The times from the first attempt are discarded, and the driver's name is added to the end of the qualy list to try again after all the originally scheduled runs have been attempted/abandoned. 

- Once a run has been completed, that is the car's qualifying time and speed, unless it is bumped from the 33-car provisional lineup.

Once a run has been completed, drivers should bring their car to a stop in the short chute between turns 1 and 2, and hit 'esc' -- this will ensure that they are not in the way when the next scheduled car takes to the track.

If the four-lap runs are completed faster than expected, there may be time for extra runs before the end of the session, but the session will still end at 00h15.

- If a car is bumped out of the provisional lineup, the driver of said car may ask via chat to be put at the end of the list in an attempt to qualify again.  There is no guarantee that there will be enough time available at the end of the session for this, but if there is, the option exists.

- At 00h15 CET, if a driver is in the middle of a qualifying run, they will be allowed to complete the run.

- Only the fastest 33 cars will be allowed to start the 500 mile race on May 31st.  In the event that less than 33 qualify, the remainder of the field will be filled on a first-come, first-served basis on Race Day.*  In the event that 33 qualify and there are drivers too slow to make the 33 car field, up to three alternates will be named (34th, 35th and 36th fastest) for Race Day, in the case that one or more of the qualified cars do not appear.

- *Drivers who only show up on Race Day MUST have a car booked in the Entry List.
   
    
Behaviour on track

A few behaviour rules :

- as for all HSO events, it is required you use your real name both in-game and on the forum. Thank you.

DO NOT enter the track under a red condition


       
Application and Interpretation of the Regulations

The admins alone are qualified to solve any problems raised by the application and the interpretation of the present regulations.

 
           
Web TV Coverage

Our Time Trials will carried live on PaddockTV.  Click here for the broadcast link.

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Does the one warmup lap mean the out lap?
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Rocky Calabrese wrote:
Does the one warmup lap mean the out lap?

Yes
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Thanks!
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anybody done a lap without lifting? So far I have to lift at T1 and T3 with 1000HP setup bounce
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The question is not wether to lift or not, the question is wether to brake or not affraid

You have to lift (Unless you use so much wing you no longer are competitive in straight line), but you can tap the brakes a bit before turn entry or simply lift. That is something that depends on your setup.
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whoops I was running max downforce LOL study
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For 1000 HP cars wings for qualy will be around 20/15 or 18/14 depending on what works best for your driving style. Balance first the aero, then go for the rest. If the rear tends to step out quickly and in a violent way, your are most likely running too much rear anti roll bar.



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So, what average speeds are we expecting, close to the real thing in '73?
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Paul M Jones wrote:
So, what average speeds are we expecting, close to the real thing in '73?

I expect pole to be faster than the 198.413 Rutherford posted in RL.
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I think that breaking the 200 mph barrier is not that hard with the best 1000 HP cars, and we will see people do it in training. But being able to do it in official qualy is another matter, as the tires take long to warm up and 5 laps might not be enough Twisted Evil
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200 average isn't hard to attain, but as Alberto has said, it will be hard in qualifying. We might see some breaking it on Lap 4. But the tires need 3, at minimum, laps to warm-up.

I've run 200 in offline practice with a couple simple changes to the default setup. Now, it was scary as hell, and I wouldn't recommend it, it was squirrely as all get out.
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I've run 200 in offline practice with a couple simple changes to the default setup. Now, it was scary as hell, and I wouldn't recommend it, it was squirrely as all get out.

Yes that's another factor ... will anyone risk botching his qualy run just to attempt breaking the 200 MPH mark?

In our virtual race, starting position will count even less than in the real life race, so personally I am going to play it safe. Smile
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Just ran my first 200 mph + lap while practicing with Trevor!   :D

44.935 seconds | 200.289 mph in a VPJ2

And then Trevor posted a 44.832 | 200.750 mph in an M16C

Champagne flowing in the Parnelli and McLaren garages! :champ:
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The other thing to consider, I've noticed that at Max Boost, the engine is a LOT more sensitive to the Revs. I dunno how many times I've blown up just trying to leave my Garage, Gasoline Alley, exiting pit road, shifting up into 3rd at speed. It's REALLY touchy at the 1000 bhp boost level.
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Jason Fitch wrote:

The other thing to consider, I've noticed that at Max Boost, the engine is a LOT more sensitive to the Revs. I dunno how many times I've blown up just trying to leave my Garage, Gasoline Alley, exiting pit road, shifting up into 3rd at speed. It's REALLY touchy at the 1000 bhp boost level.

Anything over 9500 revs spells doom, that's why we put that red needle on the tach.
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9501 rpm = new Top Gear coffee table!
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Mike Becnel wrote:
9501 rpm = new Top Gear coffee table!
lol!
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One other thing to consider. If people blow through the 200 mph barrier by a considerable margin on the server, they may have done so with the aid of slipstream.  Such conditions will not exist in qualifying. Wink


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Are we going to be able to join the server during the qualifying sessions as the end of the real Indy 500 will overlap with the start of the session?
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Alan Forster wrote:
Are we going to be able to join the server during the qualifying sessions as the end of the real Indy 500 will overlap with the start of the session?

People will be coming and going. Everyone will have an assigned time slot.
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Alan Forster wrote:
Are we going to be able to join the server during the qualifying sessions as the end of the real Indy 500 will overlap with the start of the session?

Better get the DVR warmed up.
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Just ran my first 200 mph + lap while practicing with Trevor! :D

44.935 seconds | 200.289 mph in a VPJ2

And then Trevor posted a 44.832 | 200.750 mph in an M16C

Champagne flowing in the Parnelli and McLaren garages!

Too easy! Mad Incoming patch with reduced tire grip! :jp: :rigol:

Seriously, we will see how many guys do that in 5 laps under Qualy conditions and with the risk of blowing the engine or botching their average speed by bruising the wall Smile

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I will be lucky if i can get close to the 195 mph mark Sad


But the race might be a different matter! :yaa:
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Alberto Ibañez wrote:
Seriously, we will see how many guys do that in 5 laps under Qualy conditions and with the risk of blowing the engine or botching their average speed by bruising the wall  Smile

Yeah. Plus the pressure of qualy and if you do make a mistake and crash, having to go to the end of the line and hoping there is enough time to do another run!
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