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 Indianapolis 500 Entry List and Time Trials (May 15th)

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Pascal Le pihive
Michal Janak
Eric Plana
Steven Duckunue
Michael Drechsler
Oyvind Andersen
David Jaques
Simon Wattman
Petr Hlavac
Richard Wilks
Gérard Ryon
Pascal Mikula
David Sabre
Steve Parker
Ludovic Tiengou
Scott Urick
Richard Coxon
Raul Jereb
Lee Simpson
François Remmen
Mick Chapman
Arturo Pereira
Claudio Navonne
Peter Blom
Mike Becnel
Jukka Närhi
Jason Fitch
Raymond Riddall
Jacob Fredriksson
Jan Kowalski
Martin Lacina
Jonatan Acerclinth
Alberto Ibañez
Yves Plaçais
Dana Schurer
Jason White
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Jason White
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Jason White


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Location : Ferndale, MI USA
Registration date : 2011-12-25

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Just so everyone is aware, I will be posting the qualifying order at 00h30 on Thursday. If you can't make your scheduled time, you can arrange to swap times with another driver and notify me via PM or post; I will then update the qualifying order.  Wink


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James Knowles
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Just curious...

Firestone the better tire for this mod or Goodyear?
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James Knowles wrote:
Just curious...

Firestone the better tire for this mod or Goodyear?

They degrade in different ways.  The Goodyears wear down at a consistent clip, The Firestones have more of a grip plateau, then suddenly fall off a cliff.  (hey, that rhymes)
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James Knowles
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Jason White wrote:
James Knowles wrote:
Just curious...

Firestone the better tire for this mod or Goodyear?

They degrade in different ways.  The Goodyears wear down at a consistent clip, The Firestones have more of a grip plateau, then suddenly fall off a cliff.  (hey, that rhymes)

I guess the Firestones can revel in the fact the reach a climax..... lol!
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Raul Jereb
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Jason White wrote:


then suddenly fall off a cliff.  (hey, that rhymes)

Oh, nooooo
they fall off a cliff!!!
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Raul Jereb
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I have an question...
It refers qualifications laps.

My engine goes to yelow pretty soon, even befor first timed lap. By the end of lap 4 it goes to red. Sometimes it lasts enough, sometimes it burnes down, even engine wear remains on 98%!!!

Im driving in 3rd, below 9000rpm, radiators on 2. If I rise radiators to 3, my times go down. If I shift up to 4th, same thing, speed goes down, even not so much, but yet, not enough to be competitive...

If I reposition gear box, everything falls apart...

So, what to do? Risk it as it is, and try to lift off in corners to cool down the engine???
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Alberto Ibañez
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Alberto Ibañez


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Your car should be able to do a decent qualy in 4th gear with radiator at position 3. You just need a good setup :hum:
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I've tried doing mock qualy runs with radiator 2, and I do not recommend it. The engine starts to lose power on lap 4 and dies before the run is complete (at least for me). You can tell engine death is eminent by the speed slowly dropping on the straightaway.
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Raul Jereb
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Raul Jereb


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Alberto Ibañez wrote:
Your car should be able to do a decent qualy in 4th gear with radiator at position 3. You just need a good setup :hum:

Im unable to go below time i did, and its in 3rd on rad 2.... But Ill give a try, thats for sure... Thank you Alberto.

Jason White wrote:
I've tried doing mock qualy runs with radiator 2, and I do not recommend it.  The engine starts to lose power on lap 4 and dies before the run is complete (at least for me).  You can tell engine death is eminent by the speed slowly dropping on the straightaway.

Thank you master White.
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Mike Becnel
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Mike Becnel


Number of posts : 4741
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Location : Sugar Land, TX, USA
Registration date : 2012-06-24

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Awesome lap Mr Fitch! 8 to the pole again!
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Michael Drechsler
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Location : Aachen, Germany
Registration date : 2016-03-11

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U got problems doing four flyers at radiator setting 2? Poor suckers! Why don't you just fit a Foyt engine and stop whining? lol!
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Michael Drechsler wrote:
U got problems doing four flyers at radiator setting 2? Poor suckers! Why don't you just fit a Foyt engine and stop whining? lol!

LOL. Good point.
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Ludovic Tiengou
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Ludovic Tiengou


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Registration date : 2008-12-12

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Jason White wrote:
I've tried doing mock qualy runs with radiator 2, and I do not recommend it.  The engine starts to lose power on lap 4 and dies before the run is complete (at least for me).  You can tell engine death is eminent by the speed slowly dropping on the straightaway.

The Chevy seems to have no problem at all with a radiator 2. Okay it's yellow but I haven't notice any lose of speed . Doesn't mean I'm not in trouble. My pony power is no match on this track for the horse power of the others lol! . I could only hope to make the cut. But it would be a very tought fight for wich I'm not really optimistic. I'm not a good driver and I'm worst under pressure. And there's a lot of pressure there
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Jason Fitch
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I can do 4 flyers at Rad 2 with Qual Boost....


Quick question. 1 Warm-up Plus 4 timed laps, that means leave the pits come around and take the green?
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Jason Fitch wrote:
Quick question. 1 Warm-up Plus 4 timed laps, that means leave the pits come around and take the green?

Correct.

Also there is no need to stay below the double line until you exit turn 2, that rule only applies in the race.
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Alberto Ibañez
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Im unable to go below time i did, and its in 3rd on rad 2.... But Ill give a try, thats for sure... Thank you Alberto.

I did a 45.7 with an Eagle Firestone on a test for Richard, so the car can go that fast.

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The Chevy seems to have no problem at all with a radiator 2.

The less powerful engines also use less fuel, and since rFactor produces heat per liter burned, that means they also heat less.
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I got big help from Alberto Ibanez and Jason White , but yesterday I stuck on 46,5 scratch
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Quick question. 1 Warm-up Plus 4 timed laps, that means leave the pits come around and take the green?

Warm up lap is when you leave the pits and go around, crossing the start line for the first time. That counts as lap 1. Then you have 4 flying laps (2,3,4 and 5 in your total) and after crossing the finish line for the 5th time since you left the pits you either stop and quit or go around but enter the pits after turn 4. If you cross the line for a 6th time you are DQ.
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Bob Wilson
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Bob Wilson


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Registration date : 2016-03-15

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Michal Janak wrote:
I got big help from Alberto Ibanez and Jason White , but yesterday I stuck on 46,5 scratch
 

Crying or Very sad I'm stuck there too!  Thanks for letting me run with you guys & gal..
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Alberto Ibañez
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Doing a quick qualy lap on a paved oval is somehow like drifting or doing a wheelie on a motorbike: You are at the absolute edge of balance, one slight bit too much or too few ruins your lap. You must develop a feel for it, and that comes only with practice.

But if there is a single thing I would point out as being what must be understood and be the absolute key, that is the line. Many people used to road racing just seem unable to convince themselves of turning earlier and smoother instead of going deeper and turning abruptly scratch And most of the speed is lost there. Any road racer knows well how to accelerate out of a corner at the edge, but ovals are all about turn in and apex speed.  :smil20:
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Listen to Albertos advice, I was as he described, he talked me through it, and I learnt a whole heap of things and as a result I became a much better oval racer.

Seriously, Listen to him.
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Do the AI drive the proper line?

I may not get on the server with anyone til Saturday as my week is going.

Alberto-perhaps you could post a replay of you running a handful of laps? Or a youtube clip or something?
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James Knowles wrote:
Do the AI drive the proper line?

The AI should drive the proper line in the trainer version of 73, which is included in the track download (Dana created the trainer version for us last year).
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Those of you have hit a wall with your speed. Step away for a day or two, then come back.

This will calm you down and in that situation that's what you need more than anything else. As you run laps, especially while trying to find speed, you will reach a point where you aren't gaining anymore and adjustments aren't helping. You're pretty much just staying the same, after a few runs that staying the same turns to slowing down, because you start pushing it.

The WORST thing you cam do, especially at Indy is try to push it, if you push #1 it will push back and bite you and #2 you will start losing speed like crazy.
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the Eagle 72s will have a tough qualifying looking at the timetables Crying or Very sad
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