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Philippe Bousquet
Ruben Freitas
Guillaume Siebert
Alberto Ibañez
Gabriele Maruca
Matthew Allington
Jukka Närhi
Karel Marciniszyn
Chris Hamilton
Oscar Hardwick
Glenn Corliss
Gérard Ryon
Mark Barresi
Frank Labédan
Florkin Marc
Philippe Martinelli
François Remmen
Serge Fort
Alex Barresi
Jean-louis Petillot
Pascal Le pihive
Tiago Malafaya
David Cid
Leo Menegucci
finally gone :)
Patrick Marucco
Greg Hunt
Vadim Sadoshenko
Jens Kraft
Carl Larrad
Yannick Lampure
Eric Daon
Yves Plaçais
Mario Gassner
Vincent Beretta
Cyril Derkir
Richard Coxon
Jason White
Frank Verplanken
Mike Becnel
Joel Sixou
Lan Weingerl
Martin Audran
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Martin Audran
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Martin Audran


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Done Karel and Jukka Smile 

Maybe I should consider a waiting list for the waiting list :D Shocked 

Cyril Derkir wrote:
Joel Sixou wrote:
Shocked hyper fragile mon moteur au retrogradage
si on utilise l'embrayage pour le changement de vitesse ça améliore la chose? scratch
Non, ce qu'il faut c'est éviter les surrégimes, et pour ça faut donc pas trop utiliser le frein moteur Smile 

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Florkin Marc
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Quelle est l' IP du serveur ?
Mot de pass: hso 65 ?

Merci d'avance les amis

Marcus:study: 

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Richard Coxon
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Florkin Marc wrote:
Quelle est l' IP du serveur ?
Mot de pass: hso 65 ?

Merci d'avance les amis

Marcus:study: 
IP : 91.121.135.76:34700
PW : hso64

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Martin Audran
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IP : 91.121.135.76:34700
pass: hso64

edit: Too slow :aie:

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Florkin Marc
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 Merci les amis

Marcus:top:

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Matthew Allington
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Matthew Allington


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The event is something that catches my interest, but FFB is terrible :bangry:
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Martin Audran
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The FFB is fine by me.

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Mike Becnel
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He means the forces he feeds back to the guy in front of him in the other Ferrari :jp: :aie: 

Just kidding with you Matthew Wink 

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Matthew Allington
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Not a fan of the FFB, but otherwise the mod's fine :top: 
Could I be added to the reserve list, please? Smile
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Jason White
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If you feel like staying up late, there is an HSO-A event mirroring this one. Wink 

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Pascal Le pihive
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Pascal Le pihive


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juste pour enerver joel:langue: 
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Joel Sixou
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Joel Sixou


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Pascal Le pihive wrote:
juste pour enerver joel:langue: 
mdr. joli chrono pascal

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Greg Hunt
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y a vraiment quelque chose que je ne dois pas saisir niveau set up sur ces F1 65 bon meme si c est mon 1 er soir de test sur ce mod , j ai l impression d etre a bloc partout et je me traine lamentablement en 24.0 :doh:  je pense que ca doit venir des rapports de boites :hum: :hum: :hum: :hum: study study study 

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Greg Goissen wrote:
bon meme si c est mon 1  er soir de test sur ce mod ,
Une grosse partie de la réponse est la je pense, ça change des précédents mods utilisés, pas d'aéro etc etc, faut s'y habituer Smile 

Au niveau setup oui moi je n'ai changé que la boite pour l'instant, c'est assez coupleux contrairement à ce qu'on pourrait penser donc faut pas hésiter à allonger un peu les vitesses. Enfin pas trop non plus lol! 

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Sad Sad  ah mince moi j ai trouvé qu il y avait 0 couple donc j ai baissé les rapports et pas de possibilité de tourner avant dimanche soir , je sens qu on va rigoler :aie: :aie: 

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Vincent Beretta
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. et puis il ne faut pas monter trop haut dans les tours, la puissance s'effondre (affolement de soupapes)

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Gabriele Maruca
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Hi to everyone at HSO.

I'm mgs_ita, COMS's "M": founder, physics maker and overall modder (when time lets me Laughing ).

I'm really glad (as is the rest of the team) that you're using our mod, but we released only the 1.03 for the genereal public. 1.04 series was and still is an inner development cycle between us COMS and F1-S-R and the only reason that they have it is that they're helping us developing the definitive version of the mod.

So, a few questions arise:

1. How did you get this version of the mod?
2. Who told you that you could use it?

I'm not meaning to offend anyone, as a matter of fact, we are glad that HSO uses our products. But, we cannot allow a development version to slip out and go around the 'Net, because we'd like to let you play the definitive version, the real deal.

In the meantime, please cancel the event, it's unrespectful of our work. I'm asking this on behalf of the Group.

Wishing you all the best.
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Okay, clearly there has been a miscommunication of some kind...

If it was a development mod, why was it released to such a broad audience?

When a 1.0 is used, doesn't that means it is a released mod? (at least that is what I understand. If I am wrong, others can correct me).  If there is some kind of exclusive use agreement between F1-S-R and you guys, this is the first time I'm hearing about it. Mike, Frank, you care to chime in?

If we use 1.03 instead of 1.04 for our event, would that make this issue go away?

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Jason White wrote:
Okay, clearly there has been a miscommunication of some kind...

If it was a development mod, why was it released to such a broad audience?  

From our side Jason, we saw it always as a close collaboration between us and F1-S-R. As a matter of fact, I've always sent the mod to my Mega accounts, to keep it in check when new releases come up and to stop eventual leaks when found. I'm not saying that nobody besides F1-S-R can use it, but at least ask wouldn't have hurt, instead of seeing my mod popping up here without me and the group knowing nothing about it.

Again, we don't want to be the party poopers around here, it's just a matter of common sense.
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First you should introduce yourself to your real name. Please do not be offended, but for example, I'm not sure you are a developer. Secondly, if this version of the mod was in the network, is absolutely inadmissible be on different portals and prohibit already running of the event.
In any case, information leakage is the problem modding group and we are not obliged to suffer such problems!

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This should be taken offline with Frank. I will make sure he sees this and contacts you.

mgs_ita wrote:
Hi to everyone at HSO.

I'm mgs_ita, COMS's "M": founder, physics maker and overall modder (when time lets me Laughing ).

I'm really glad (as is the rest of the team) that you're using our mod, but we released only the 1.03 for the genereal public. 1.04 series was and still is an inner development cycle between us COMS and F1-S-R and the only reason that they have it is that they're helping us developing the definitive version of the mod.

So, a few questions arise:

1. How did you get this version of the mod?
2. Who told you that you could use it?

I'm not meaning to offend anyone, as a matter of fact, we are glad that HSO uses our products. But, we cannot allow a development version to slip out and go around the 'Net, because we'd like to let you play the definitive version, the real deal.

In the meantime, please cancel the event, it's unrespectful of our work. I'm asking this on behalf of the Group.

Wishing you all the best.
I think Jason and I were the 1st to discuss the mod here. We both ran in one or two of the F1SR races. The mod was presented as released. We were far from unrespectful of your work and have been talking it up (giving the work compliments) and pumping it up for some time.

Per the previous post, please change your name to your real name.

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I agree with Mike.

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Matthew Allington
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Matthew Allington


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Agreed, but just one thing - If you're not going to release a mod to the public, surely you can password-protect it?
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Alberto Ibañez
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@mgs_ita

The admins will of course discuss the mater with you, but regarding your question "Where did you get the mod from?"

It is openly downloadable for example here:

http://f1-sim-racer.co.uk/index.php/forum/17-rfactor/21951-rfactor-servers

I don't know where the admins got it, but it's not like the latest version was hidden from the public :smil20: 

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For starters, it's not our fault if a conversion is leaked.
Then, maybe I can ask you to remove Monaco from your track pack ? All the work on the harbor section was done by me, and granted I made the mistake to share my work on F1Classic, I was never given any credit for that. I'm not an admin here, but it's amazing that we are given lessons of "respecting others' work" when your team doesn't respect others in first place.

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