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 1953 Round 5 - Grand Prix de Suisse

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Filippo Marazzi
Mark Johnson
Erwann Burguiere
David Purchase
Krzysztof Babij
Robin de Vos
Jon Dee
Myfanwy Fflur
Pau Casajuana
Pascal Mikula
John Cook
Gérard Ryon
Jim Carvalho
Isidoro Jauregui
Martin Bayer
Rob de Vries
Matt Wright
Marek Liolias
Mia Rose
Rhys Gardiner
Ricardo Magno
Niklas Kirsten
Mark A Warmington
Austin Burchfield
Paul Nadeau
Martin Jaspers
Nicolas Hillebrand
Honza Mild
Declan Brush
Karel Marciniszyn
Petr Hlavac
Bruno Chacon
Darren Andrews
Frank Verplanken
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Jim Carvalho
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PostSubject: Re: 1953 Round 5 - Grand Prix de Suisse   1953 Round 5 - Grand Prix de Suisse - Page 3 Icon_minitimeSun 12 Mar 2023 - 16:24

A miraculous change of plans leaves the opportunity for my participation. Unfortunately I did not run any pre- Qual laps. May I hop on the server early, demonstrate a modicum of competence, and join the fun at 20:00?

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Jim Carvalho wrote:
A miraculous change of plans leaves the opportunity for my participation. Unfortunately I did not run any pre- Qual laps. May I hop on the server early, demonstrate a modicum of competence, and join the fun at 20:00?
We're well short of having a full grid Jim, so please join us!

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Frank Verplanken
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The race server will be launched with a 25-minute practice session at 19:35 CET Wink

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Frank Verplanken
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Sorry I had to relaunch race server, will be back up in a couple of minutes with 15 minutes practice.

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Race results and Championship standings updated --> LINK :hello:

Grats to Nico for an epic win with the Lagondola ! GG to all finishers on this very tricky track, more than 50% finishers is really unexpected.

So proud of everybody for yet another perfect lap 1, especially at turn 1 obviously. You guys are the best <3 !

Martin is almost certain to win the Gold Star title now, Rhys would have to win outright at Monza without Martin scoring more than 9 points - unlikely with the Aston on such a fast track, but you never know !

All four Silver Star titles are still up for grabs, most of them very close so Monza will be a thriller of a race !

:frank:

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Petr Hlavac
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Petr Hlavac


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PostSubject: Re: 1953 Round 5 - Grand Prix de Suisse   1953 Round 5 - Grand Prix de Suisse - Page 3 Icon_minitimeMon 13 Mar 2023 - 15:27

Another race, another well spent evening with HSO. As always, lack of practice showed very early on, as my first qualifying laps were good enough only for P20. Quite a shocker. But then I changed brake balance from deafult value (67:33 it is...?) waaay backwards to 53:47 and the car became significantly better. Still, I was only 12th. Some 5 minutes before the end of quali I took a ride with some fast guys and noticed that they use only three gears, while I picked shorter final gear and used 1-4. I tried it in warmup. Most of last minute setup changes are a disaster. Fortunately, this one wasn't.

As expected, the race was a survival. I remember one race at Bremgarten with our Czech GPL league some 15 years ago. Only three people survived the first lap and the guy who caused the pileup was then known as "The Butcher from Brem". Same as in Spa, I had a battle with Martin for most of the race. That's a shame, considering how much slower his car is in straight line. Martin clearly is a faster driver. Still, I enjoyed the fight. Again, this was not a mistake-free ride at all, but none was fatal and I ended up 4th. My qualifying speed is poor, has always been. But as long as I finish in top 5, I'm happy. Mission accomplished. Grats to all finishers, see you in Monza

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David Purchase
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David Purchase


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Registration date : 2023-01-05

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PostSubject: Still riding my luck (good for me, bad for the others)   1953 Round 5 - Grand Prix de Suisse - Page 3 Icon_minitimeThu 16 Mar 2023 - 16:25

I was really pleased with qualifying and found a lot of time. Unfortunately, everyone else found even more time. Sad As usually I didn't wait to the very end to take advantage of the most rubber on track. Instead I prefer to get some late laps in on full fuel so I am ready for the race start.

I made an ok start but Jonathan made an awesome start from a few rows back and so I had to stay inline and got a bit boxed in. So I lost three spots up to turn 1. Still Frank had said be careful on lap one so I was a good little driver and behaved myself. It was still scary coming into the jump and expecting to find someone sideways across the road. The main danger of starting so far back. It was all ok though and I just had to be patient until we reached the 'straight' up to the forest.

At that point my main focus was getting back past Jonathan through the fast forest section as he was looking very quick through the twisty sections. He past Honza's 2l Gordini into the first tight right hander before the 'Big Rock' complex and was flying. I had a look at the same Gordini approaching the actual ‘Big Rock’ corner but thought better of it on lap 1. That proved to be my first bit of luck for the day as Mark had spun and was just starting to clear the track as we approached. As I wasn’t side by side with Honza, I had room to get past Mark’s car.

My second bit of luck followed on from that. The confusion had caused Martin to be slow at the start of the hill, which let Jonathan and Honza get a run on him. He powered back alongside them both, which boxed them in and allowed me to take advantage and follow him through. Back to p24 where I had started.

Martin pulled away from me through the forest but I was able to close in through the cobblestones right hander. I had good traction out of there. Unusually for me, I'd locked the diff as much as possible for this track and, in particular, the cobbles. As we picked up speed, Martin started to pull away but I was able to hang onto his slipstream.

Coming into T1 again, I stayed cautious in case there was carnage ahead and so Martin pulled a small gap. I gradually closed up again through the twistier sections while I expected him to get away again through the forest. I was helped gain though, this time by Rhys who had gone off. He came back on sensibly but Martin caught him as they approached the first fast right hander into the forest and so might have had to ease slightly. Whatever the reason, I was still in contact with Martin on lap 2.

At that point I thought we had a race on our hands. I felt he was slightly quicker over the lap but that I would gain time on pit-stops. Soon after I realised I was wrong on all counts. Firstly, it soon became obvious that my fuel calculations had been based with fuel burn still set at 3 or 4 times as per Spa (doh!), so no-one would actually be stopping here. Secondly, and more sadly, as we came around to the jump again, Declan had just lost it, and there was no way for Martin to avoid him. It was a big impact with wheels flying loose. Lady luck stepped in once more to save me and I squeezed through a small gap.

For a while I thought that was basically the race sorted. I was too slow to catch the cars ahead and seemed to be safe from the cars behind. Funny how things turn out...
Ending lap 3 through the cobbles and I saw Toby had spun. He was back ahead by the end of the straight but I closed up through the twisty section. Only for him to pull away again through the forest. Meanwhile Mark was recovering from his earlier spin and catching me quickly. I was the filling in a Johnson sandwich! The pressure soon eased though as I saw Mark go off in my mirror as we reached the cobbles again.

Ending lap 5 and more luck as Filippo had lost it coming into the cobbles and I squeezed past without contact. Into lap 6 and saw Frank had had an off in the forest. Somehow I was now P19. Into lap 7 and I was able to lap Krzystof through the forest. He made plenty of room and the Bristol had a big top speed advantage.

At the time it felt like I was back to the lonely race I expected from earlier. In reality it was only 3 laps of peace before Nico’s monster Lagonda lapped me through the forest. He was so much faster I only had to have a slight lift so I could safely take a wider line and let him through under the bridge.
Lap 12 started to get interesting again. A recovering Filippo was catching me and the leaders were also coming through to lap us. Tom was first and I had to have quite a big lift so he could get through between corners. Isi also took the opportunity to jump through. Letting them through had cost me time to Filippo who passed me down the main straight. But it’s the same for all of us getting lapped and he would have caught and passed me sooner or later. Or so I told myself at the time Smile

The main thing I reminded myself of was that I'm not fighting the 3+l cars. I did lose a lot of time through the following twisty section though. I stayed behind Fillipo then had to make way for Robin and Niklas. I even had half a look at Fillipo into the big rock corner. All day I felt as quick as anyone from the jump to the Forest with the possible exception of Tom and his Slideia.
For the next few laps I tried to hang on to the Ferrari to help my concentration. I had a bit of a slide into the Michelin van left hander, which made me question that decision. But ending lap 15, on the cobbles, I got passed Filppo again who, I guess, had had a moment through or out of that tight right hander.

No time to celebrate though as Martin was catching to lap us. I eased up to let him through as we approached the Michelin Van again. Petr didn't need any help as his Jag flew by in the forest. Then so too did Filippo. I clung on though and fancied a chance at getting him back in the twisty section, if I could get some slipstream down the straight.

Unfortunately, a recovering Mark missed his braking and tapped me into a half spin at the tight right hander of the cobbles, which also nudged me into Filippo, and left me sideways by the barrier where, thankful, Liudvik was just able to avoid me. I hope I didn't do any damage to Filippo's car. I had some small aero damage that cost me about 8mph on the straight but I didn't think it was worth stopping in case RF2 decided to take 5 minutes over hammering out some dents. Mark apologised after the race and explained he hadn't had much time to practice for this one. He stuck with it though to pick up a very creditable 2nd.

Half way, I was still running ok and still in 14th place. That soon became 13th with Bruno chasing me down. And he was quickly past. Then Erwann lapped me as we came into the tight right at the top of the hill after the jump and tunnel section. Again I tried to make it easy by easing up and leaving him the racing line.

That was a sobering moment. Lapped by a fellow 2l after 20 laps. Sad The Bristol shouldn’t have been so much slower than the Masserati here. I need to work harder.

2 laps later and it was Mark's turn to lap me. I moved well out of his way into the big rock corner. Soon after Nico, Lari, and Isi also lapped me. As I had no-one to race in front or behind by now, I tried to make things as easy as possible by lifting between corners. Sorry to anyone where it didn't work out.

Lap 26 and someone must have had a moment because I was back to 13th, quietly driving along on a Sunday and waving to cars as they lapped me. Then 12th on lap 27. Just cruising to the flag. Lapping Krzysztof as we started lap 28.

Lap 30 (only 4 to go after being lapped twice) and I had a sharp reminder not to relax concentration. Into the jump I found a piece of suspension and loose wheel. A sudden swerve to avoid would have likely caused a crash so I closed my eyes and went over the top of it. Phew, no impact that I noticed. Lady Luck is still with me. But where there's a wheel there's a way. No hang on, that's not right. Where there's a wheel, there's usually a slow-moving sparking 3-wheel car nearby. So I was extra careful. Fortunately Sebastian was keeping out of the way and so there was no drama.
Lap 32 and I had another very tiny moment where the Brissle's mighty rear got a little loose on the cobbles.

I caught Jonathan right at the end and we cruised over the line together.
I was fairly happy with that. I found this a challenging track but had consistent (if slow) pace, and I didn't make any notable mistakes. My biggest problem (apart from pace) is still being too cautious while being lapped. I lose a lot of time and am in danger of catching people out.

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Honza Mild
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Honza Mild


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Age : 49
Location : Czech republic, South Bohemia
Registration date : 2009-11-04

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PostSubject: Re: 1953 Round 5 - Grand Prix de Suisse   1953 Round 5 - Grand Prix de Suisse - Page 3 Icon_minitimeThu 16 Mar 2023 - 18:11

I can only say one thing...damn jump .... I'm still waiting and I'm still failing. I've only one time crossed the finish line in the Crystal palace... Evil or Very Mad

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David Purchase
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Hopefully, you are still enjoying it though. :conduit:

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So glad I could join you and happy to hear there were so many finishers! Quite a fete in itself. 1953 Round 5 - Grand Prix de Suisse - Page 3 3108518133  Unfortunately I had a CTD in the first lap though I managed to re-join. Even more unfortunately I had a second CTD; and, when I re-joined, my car had been damaged beyond repair. Looks like I need to figure out how to avoid the CTD! I suspect it had to do with the number of cars on track. I have a RTX3070, single 1080p monitor, and 11th gen Intel with plenty of RAM. My PC should be able to handle it.

I hope my CTDs didn't upset anyone's race.

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Jim Carvalho wrote:
So glad I could join you and happy to hear there were so many finishers! Quite a fete in itself. 1953 Round 5 - Grand Prix de Suisse - Page 3 3108518133  Unfortunately I had a CTD in the first lap though I managed to re-join. Even more unfortunately I had a second CTD; and, when I re-joined, my car had been damaged beyond repair. Looks like I need to figure out how to avoid the CTD! I suspect it had to do with the number of cars on track. I have a RTX3070, single 1080p monitor, and 11th gen Intel with plenty of RAM. My PC should be able to handle it.

I hope my CTDs didn't upset anyone's race.
Hi Jim, rFactor 2 can be pretty fickle to run. You might want to check out this post we made regarding tips for preventing these disconnectshttps://historicsimracing.forumotion.com/t4548-tips-for-optimising-rfactor-2-performance

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Martin Bayer
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For posterity and those who are not on Discord, here's my video recap:

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PostSubject: Re: 1953 Round 5 - Grand Prix de Suisse   1953 Round 5 - Grand Prix de Suisse - Page 3 Icon_minitimeMon 27 Mar 2023 - 13:18

As suggested by Frank I will add race recap from Discord here:

Preparation for the race was a mixed bag for me. Put in a lot of practice laps, had reasonable pace and good consistency. Then, Thursday before race, my 15-year old G25 finally had enough. Started to make massive noise, sometimes to a point where I couldn’t even hear the enigne anymore. I was afraid of complete failure, so exchanged it for a Thrustmaster T300 I had laying around. Stayed with the G25 pedals though. Nice wheel and I could still do some quick laps, but will need some more practice to get back the consistency and confidence I had before.

Achieved P3 in qualifying. Was relatively happy with it. But it seems I can’t make quite as much use of a rubbered-in track than other people can do. Also saw that in Monaco and Spa. Need to work on that.

Already sitting on the grid, there was some more minor trouble. Reflecting my usual level of professionalism and attention to details, I had forgotten to reassign all the buttons to navigate through the on-screen-display… As I didn’t remember the custom key assignments, I was stuck in the pit menu with no way to change any settings. So I would probably not be able to do repair in pit stop. Could have jumped back to the menu and changed the keys but I was not sure whether I could get back in my original grid spot then. So decided to just go with it and try not to hit anything.
The start was smooth and I was P3 at the end of the first lap behind @Nicolas Hillebrand and @Tom Dee . Then I was overtaken by @Rory and @ReDY in quick succession. A few laps later, Rory was stationary at the outside of the cobblestone hairpin with another car parked to the inside. Think he got going again but then completely vanished a few laps later (?). So that was P4. I then messed up the exit of the right hander with the big rock and @Robin de Vos (Scooby) passed me in the uphill forest section, back to P5. I was able to stay close and could even get alongside in the cobblestone hairpin. Robin got the better exit though and stayed in front into T1. This would have been a race-long battle I think, but sadly Robin ran wide in the fast downhill esses in sector 1, spun to the inside and hit something solid. One lap later, Tom crashed in the jump and went into the pit for repairs. Was in P3 then, Isi was 10s ahead and lapping a bit quicker, @Martin Bayer #57 in the 3L class was some 30s behind. From that point, I started to ease off just a little bit. Lapping was tricky as there are almost no really straight sections on the track. There was a bit of drama in the very last laps when a light-blue car exited the pits in front of me and then immediately crashed in the quarry section. Fortunately I was far enough behind to avoid it and finished P3.

Can’t wait to hit the track in Monza now. Ferrari soil! But the Jags will be outstandingly quick, Lagonda may have a slight top speed advantage, too. Not sure about the Lancias, they may lack a bit of power but still exit the turns very fast. Anyway, expecting a lot more wheel-to-wheel action and a very close race there!

Sorry for the lengthy text and whining about the wheel issue. Thanks to everyone who read to the end :rigol:

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