Number of posts : 1837 Age : 31 Location : Gräv, Sweden Registration date : 2012-12-10
Subject: Re: 1991 Grande Premio de Portugal (Jul 24th) Mon 18 Jul 2016 - 18:05
In other words I've been doing it right, the car just lacks some speed and I clearly lack practice so far...
Time to get driving
Jason White Racing Legend
Number of posts : 14725 Age : 47 Location : Ferndale, MI USA Registration date : 2011-12-25
Subject: Re: 1991 Grande Premio de Portugal (Jul 24th) Mon 18 Jul 2016 - 18:10
Now I've got this running through my head lol
Michal Janak Racing Legend
Number of posts : 1082 Age : 51 Location : Brno, Czech Republic Registration date : 2010-03-25
Subject: Re: 1991 Grande Premio de Portugal (Jul 24th) Mon 18 Jul 2016 - 18:36
MS told on video 320 km/h on start/finish line, I am oly about 295 in my best lap
so somewhere is problem (head, hands )
Michael Drechsler Pro Driver
Number of posts : 671 Age : 46 Location : Aachen, Germany Registration date : 2016-03-11
Subject: Re: 1991 Grande Premio de Portugal (Jul 24th) Mon 18 Jul 2016 - 18:45
320? Really?
Seems I gotta try different DF setups, cos I'm missing about 35 kph...
Steve Parker Racing Legend
Number of posts : 2000 Age : 65 Location : England uk Registration date : 2008-12-22
Subject: Re: 1991 Grande Premio de Portugal (Jul 24th) Mon 18 Jul 2016 - 18:59
Rubén Fernández Rookie
Number of posts : 10 Age : 48 Location : Spain Registration date : 2016-06-29
Subject: Re: 1991 Grande Premio de Portugal (Jul 24th) Mon 18 Jul 2016 - 21:16
Hi guys. Today I was running on the server testing the Modena. I think I won't be able to run, but I would like make some tests in Estoril if you don't mind.
I would like to ask you what is the pace of the Modena with full tank and A hard tires (race pace). I was able tu run in 28's, only setting the gearbox and lowering the car, even it would be welcome any advice on the setup.
Thanks in advance
Sky Willis Club Driver
Number of posts : 188 Age : 36 Location : Wales Registration date : 2016-07-02
Subject: Re: 1991 Grande Premio de Portugal (Jul 24th) Mon 18 Jul 2016 - 22:27
i tried that car (along with a few others) offline today. it looks good, sounds good but its really slow, mainly due to being crap in corners. was doing 22s on a rough quali setup.
Cláudio Augusto Club Driver
Number of posts : 118 Age : 30 Location : Brazil Registration date : 2015-02-07
Subject: Re: 1991 Grande Premio de Portugal (Jul 24th) Mon 18 Jul 2016 - 22:36
Rubén Fernández wrote:
Hi guys. Today I was running on the server testing the Modena. I think I won't be able to run, but I would like make some tests in Estoril if you don't mind.
I would like to ask you what is the pace of the Modena with full tank and A hard tires (race pace). I was able tu run in 28's, only setting the gearbox and lowering the car, even it would be welcome any advice on the setup.
Thanks in advance
The best lap i've done with this configs it was something into 27s (mid-high) with the default setup. 24s with 50L, hard tyres (not the qualyfing) and also with default set. Like Sky said, the sound it's eargasmic, but the car it's not that good. But, for me, it's really fun to drive it.
Ben Paulet Racing Legend
Number of posts : 8291 Age : 50 Location : Cagnes sur mer France Registration date : 2009-07-29
Subject: Re: 1991 Grande Premio de Portugal (Jul 24th) Mon 18 Jul 2016 - 22:56
Jason White wrote:
Now I've got this running through my head lol
When we did the F1 91 season, we did also some broadcasts, and we used it as intro. And Bernie don't catch them.
Mike Becnel Racing Legend
Number of posts : 4741 Age : 56 Location : Sugar Land, TX, USA Registration date : 2012-06-24
Subject: Re: 1991 Grande Premio de Portugal (Jul 24th) Mon 18 Jul 2016 - 23:35
Wow I forgot how intense this mod is.
In qualifying it is a bad idea to enter the track if you see a lot of cars ahead of you. There is LOTs of time to do your 12 laps. You have basically got 4 shots per session. 1 out lap, 1 hot lap and 1 in lap. People on their out laps will be going slow so take that into account when you practice. Greg was masterful at dodging people in his way during qualifying when we ran a few years back.
Greg Hunt Racing Legend
Number of posts : 4322 Age : 40 Location : HOSSEGOR Registration date : 2010-03-25
Subject: Re: 1991 Grande Premio de Portugal (Jul 24th) Tue 19 Jul 2016 - 8:01
Mike Becnel wrote:
Greg was masterful at dodging people in his way during qualifying when we ran a few years back.
correction : Greg is masterful everytime
Pascal Mikula Racing Legend
Number of posts : 1189 Age : 23 Location : Classic Motorsport Hub Registration date : 2016-01-04
Subject: Re: 1991 Grande Premio de Portugal (Jul 24th) Tue 19 Jul 2016 - 8:14
Oh my goodness, looking at the hotlaps, I hope in the race the Williams drivers suffer from the poor reliability of the sequential gearbox (Just kidding hehe but I'm still surprised that I'm a second slower than you)
Rubén Fernández Rookie
Number of posts : 10 Age : 48 Location : Spain Registration date : 2016-06-29
Subject: Re: 1991 Grande Premio de Portugal (Jul 24th) Tue 19 Jul 2016 - 8:47
Thank you Claudio and Sky. A lot of understeer in this car, but the sound is amazing. It seems a good mod for recreate and historic championship
Mike Becnel Racing Legend
Number of posts : 4741 Age : 56 Location : Sugar Land, TX, USA Registration date : 2012-06-24
Subject: Re: 1991 Grande Premio de Portugal (Jul 24th) Tue 19 Jul 2016 - 11:19
Greg Goissen wrote:
Mike Becnel wrote:
Greg was masterful at dodging people in his way during qualifying when we ran a few years back.
correction : Greg is masterful everytime
Oh pardon mois sir, I forgot to say "whilest proceeing to school our butts all season long in the Minardi!"
Martin Lacina Experienced Driver
Number of posts : 475 Age : 43 Location : Czech Republic Registration date : 2016-02-16
Subject: Re: 1991 Grande Premio de Portugal (Jul 24th) Tue 19 Jul 2016 - 11:20
Quote :
I hope in the race the Williams drivers suffer from the poor reliability of the sequential gearbox
The bigger problem will be my reliability than the gearbox.
Greg Hunt Racing Legend
Number of posts : 4322 Age : 40 Location : HOSSEGOR Registration date : 2010-03-25
Subject: Re: 1991 Grande Premio de Portugal (Jul 24th) Tue 19 Jul 2016 - 11:31
Mike Becnel wrote:
Greg Goissen wrote:
Mike Becnel wrote:
Greg was masterful at dodging people in his way during qualifying when we ran a few years back.
correction : Greg is masterful everytime
Oh pardon mois sir, I forgot to say "whilest proceeing to school our butts all season long in the Minardi!"
it s better , but you can do much better
Mike Becnel Racing Legend
Number of posts : 4741 Age : 56 Location : Sugar Land, TX, USA Registration date : 2012-06-24
Subject: Re: 1991 Grande Premio de Portugal (Jul 24th) Tue 19 Jul 2016 - 12:13
Yes master yes yes
Alberto Ibañez Racing Legend
Number of posts : 16788 Age : 121 Location : International Simracing Organisation Registration date : 2010-09-17
Subject: Re: 1991 Grande Premio de Portugal (Jul 24th) Tue 19 Jul 2016 - 12:27
Michal Janak wrote:
Juha Bos wrote:
Don't forget the mandatory complaining, all part of assuming the role of Nigel Mansell.
today i did something to be closer to Nigel
You are Bobby Rahal!!
Richard Coxon Racing Legend
Number of posts : 16590 Age : 37 Location : Sheffield, England Registration date : 2012-06-29
Subject: Re: 1991 Grande Premio de Portugal (Jul 24th) Tue 19 Jul 2016 - 12:32
Do Mike and Greg want to borrow Franks' gimp chamber I believe the leather has been wiped down.
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Alberto Ibañez Racing Legend
Number of posts : 16788 Age : 121 Location : International Simracing Organisation Registration date : 2010-09-17
Subject: Re: 1991 Grande Premio de Portugal (Jul 24th) Tue 19 Jul 2016 - 12:32
And they can bring Raul with them as pet, now that he has a proper gimp suit
Jan Kowalski Pro Driver
Number of posts : 777 Age : 34 Location : Germany Registration date : 2008-11-28
Subject: Re: 1991 Grande Premio de Portugal (Jul 24th) Tue 19 Jul 2016 - 18:23
Any secret tips of getting fast in this mod? Its really difficult, but i like the historic gearing with lifting and blipping throttle
Mike Becnel Racing Legend
Number of posts : 4741 Age : 56 Location : Sugar Land, TX, USA Registration date : 2012-06-24
Subject: Re: 1991 Grande Premio de Portugal (Jul 24th) Tue 19 Jul 2016 - 18:31
Jan Kowalski wrote:
Any secret tips of getting fast in this mod? Its really difficult, but i like the historic gearing with lifting and blipping throttle
Sacrificing a small furry rodent prior to each qual attempt seems to help
Prayer sometimes helps
Keep dropping the rear shocks slightly until you can hammer down on the throttle while exiting corners. Front wheels will lock up a bit on a proper race setup with full fuel but will stop once the weight transfer evens out with fuel burn off.
Ride height seems to be one of the biggest killers of downforce. The fast guys 2 seasons ago shot sparks out from under their cars at high speeds so I assumed they kept it LOW LOW LOW in the back. That helped me a lot as we got to season end.
More prayer helps.
Jason White Racing Legend
Number of posts : 14725 Age : 47 Location : Ferndale, MI USA Registration date : 2011-12-25
Subject: Re: 1991 Grande Premio de Portugal (Jul 24th) Tue 19 Jul 2016 - 18:55
That's good advice from Mike; that's where I am losing all of my time, exiting corners and not being able to lay down the power as quick as I want. I'll try fiddling with the rear shocks this evening.
Richard Coxon Racing Legend
Number of posts : 16590 Age : 37 Location : Sheffield, England Registration date : 2012-06-29
Subject: Re: 1991 Grande Premio de Portugal (Jul 24th) Tue 19 Jul 2016 - 19:19
Just be aware. If you go too low on the ride height the car will bottom out, potentially through a corner and you will lose all grip.
If you want tips, read the physics guide, located in the vehicles folder. It will advise you on setup, optimum tire temps, how to use the engines. Give it a good read.
François Remmen Pro Driver
Number of posts : 880 Age : 44 Location : Netherlands Registration date : 2012-12-22
Subject: Re: 1991 Grande Premio de Portugal (Jul 24th) Tue 19 Jul 2016 - 19:59
still today its a headache maker to find the proper setup
the stock setups are made by duke but as you guys know im with the pad and created tonns of setup which are lost now for the team , with a pad you only want stable cars and there 2 ways to do it
super hard springs with very low bottom space and adjusted rollbars or super soft springs with higher bottom space and adjusted rollbars
also crazy camber settins like -3.0 is deadyl like some mods shows and far from realistic
back in the days when i was fully deticated to this sim and develop the mod i used moteq tonns of readouts send over and over again to duke what each car does etc etc
but as for some cars a soft suspension is very bad to use cause there chassis is very soft itself to simulate poorer cars like the modena ags
im doing it now with the ferrari and get around same times but the ferrari is very sensitive to hard suspension setups and low fuel causing porpoising which it did in real on heavy load its much nicer to handle , sound crazy lol but it was a hard car to drive.
the most insteresting part is the race setup , which only this mod has, pick the the right tire compound choice most suited for a track, during the race read the fuel usage adjust the boost fuel mixture and change the brake bias during the race risking blown brakes disks!
all i can say is reading the times in hotlaps the williams is about 2.0 sec off its capable pace.....
good luck with mind cracking and tonns of hours driving testing hours
gotdamn just turn up the volume and you go quick already!
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