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David Jaques
Gérard Ryon
Pascal Le pihive
Arturo Pereira
François Remmen
David Sabre
Martin Lacina
Michael Drechsler
Eric Plana
Jonatan Acerclinth
Jukka Närhi
Lee Simpson
Pascal Mikula
Alberto Ibañez
Petr Hlavac
Claudio Navonne
Jacob Fredriksson
Raul Jereb
Ludovic Tiengou
Jason Fitch
Jan Kowalski
Mike Becnel
Glenn Corliss
Richard Coxon
Dana Schurer
Jason White
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Raul Jereb
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Raul Jereb


Number of posts : 1490
Age : 50
Location : Rijeka, Croatia
Registration date : 2013-05-28

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Alberto Ibañez wrote:

More stagger helps corner entry (Less understeer) and getting around it better, but will cause more oversteer at corner exit when applying throttle.

Thank you Alberto,
and is there any rule or restriction (due to common sense Smile what difference in stagger should be used? For example, left side 1.0, and right side 1.75, or is it better to combine smaller stagger difference?
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Jason White
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Jason White


Number of posts : 14725
Age : 47
Location : Ferndale, MI USA
Registration date : 2011-12-25

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Ludovic Tiengou wrote:
Jason White wrote:
Ludovic Tiengou wrote:
Present to fill the back end of the row (as I'm 2s behind the best here as I was in College Station)

Like I said before, Texas was a power track, this is more of a handling track.  Provided you set up the car right, you could be more competitive here.

Seems I'm not lol! 32.721 in qualif boost...that's very very slow :hihi:

But's not a problem. I'm not competitive all together. I'm not sure I could do better with another car

Ludovic, rather than play the victim card, you should be looking for a way to maximize the effectiveness Chevy's smooth power curve. This will be especially advantageous coming out of turn 2.  This is the part where you reply with "my car is too slow"  Rolling Eyes
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Alberto Ibañez
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Alberto Ibañez


Number of posts : 16788
Age : 121
Location : International Simracing Organisation
Registration date : 2010-09-17

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Thank you Alberto,
and is there any rule or restriction (due to common sense Round 2-3 - Trenton (Apr 10th) - Page 2 420535 what difference in stagger should be used? For example, left side 1.0, and right side 1.75, or is it better to combine smaller stagger difference?

Stagger is only used in the rear tires. Unfortunately in rfactor you can't "lock" the front tyre option in the garage, but it has no effect at all in the physics.

I suggest that you do some laps with the default setup and minimum stagger, adjusting only the front wing and steering lock to your taste. Then you do some laps more with everything the same but maximum stagger and see the difference.  Smile
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Pascal Mikula
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Pascal Mikula


Number of posts : 1189
Age : 23
Location : Classic Motorsport Hub
Registration date : 2016-01-04

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Lee Simpson
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Number of posts : 126
Age : 74
Location : Ohio, USA
Registration date : 2015-01-12

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I’ll be attending a WWII vet’s memorial service at Arlington Cemetery (Washington D.C.) and won’t be available for the Trenton action.
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Ludovic Tiengou
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Ludovic Tiengou


Number of posts : 2986
Age : 56
Location : Grenoble far away from Brittany, France
Registration date : 2008-12-12

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Jason White wrote:


Ludovic, rather than play the victim card, you should be looking for a way to maximize the effectiveness Chevy's smooth power curve. This will be especially advantageous coming out of turn 2.  This is the part where you reply with "my car is too slow"  Rolling Eyes

Sorry if I seems to play the victim card. I was in fact playing the self derision one. I was just mocking my lack of speed making me a major actor for the back row battle. Seems I miss my target by a wide shot Embarassed . I apologized for my odd sense of humor.

Let's be clear. The problem don't lie in the car and/or the engine or anything else but in the driver seat (aka me). I'm unable to exploit (and surely to set up) the car that's all. Having a Chevy, an Offy or a Foyt in the back of any chassis won't change a bit of my slowness.
If I was really complaining about the car I'll have switch it for the #7 when it became available Wink
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Mike Becnel
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Mike Becnel


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Registration date : 2012-06-24

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Ludovic Tiengou wrote:
Jason White wrote:


Ludovic, rather than play the victim card, you should be looking for a way to maximize the effectiveness Chevy's smooth power curve. This will be especially advantageous coming out of turn 2.  This is the part where you reply with "my car is too slow"  Rolling Eyes

Sorry if I seems to play the victim card. I was in fact playing the self derision one. I was just mocking my lack of speed making me a major actor for the back row battle. Seems I miss my target by a wide shot Embarassed . I apologized for my odd sense of humor.

Let's be clear. The problem don't lie in the car and/or the engine or anything else but in the driver seat (aka me). I'm unable to exploit (and surely to set up) the car that's all.  Having a Chevy, an Offy or a Foyt in the back of any chassis won't change a bit of my slowness.
If I was really complaining about the car I'll have switch it for the #7 when it became available Wink

Don't worry, even some of the speedier people (me included) are only fast for a few laps then all hell breaks loose coming out of 2.
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Jason White
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Jason White


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Age : 47
Location : Ferndale, MI USA
Registration date : 2011-12-25

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If you'd like me to come up with a setup for the Eagle-Chevy, I can do that this week.
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Raul Jereb
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Raul Jereb


Number of posts : 1490
Age : 50
Location : Rijeka, Croatia
Registration date : 2013-05-28

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Jason White wrote:
If you'd like me to come up with a setup for the Eagle-Chevy, I can do that this week.

Finley-Offy !!!!*????!??!?!!!??!??!??!?!?

cheers cheers cheers cheers cheers cheers
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Jason White
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Jason White


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Hey now, one at a time. :antoine:
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Raul Jereb
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Raul Jereb


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Location : Rijeka, Croatia
Registration date : 2013-05-28

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Ludovic Tiengou wrote:


Sorry if I seems to play the victim card. I was in fact playing the self derision one. I was just mocking my lack of speed making me a major actor for the back row battle. Seems I miss my target by a wide shot Embarassed . I apologized for my odd sense of humor.

Let's be clear. The problem don't lie in the car and/or the engine or anything else but in the driver seat (aka me). I'm unable to exploit (and surely to set up) the car that's all.  Having a Chevy, an Offy or a Foyt in the back of any chassis won't change a bit of my slowness.
If I was really complaining about the car I'll have switch it for the #7 when it became available Wink

Dont you worry Ludovic, there will be crowdy at the back rows.. at least for few rounds :clap: :aie:
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Raul Jereb
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Raul Jereb


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Jason White wrote:
Hey now, one at a time. :antoine:

Ok, ok.... anyway, we dont have the same tast in car behaviour... :D
Unless you can make it not to desintegrate when kissing the wall :top:
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Jukka Närhi
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Jukka Närhi


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Age : 37
Location : Finland
Registration date : 2009-12-17

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Jason White
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Jason White


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Raul Jereb wrote:
Jason White wrote:
Hey now, one at a time. :antoine:

Ok, ok.... anyway, we dont have the same tast in car behaviour... :D
Unless you can make it not to desintegrate when kissing the wall :top:

True. I like my cars looser than you do. Wait. That sounds a bit salacious..  Neutral
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Richard Coxon
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Richard Coxon


Number of posts : 16590
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Location : Sheffield, England
Registration date : 2012-06-29

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Soooo hard not to jump on that and punish you :rigol:
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Jonatan Acerclinth
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Jonatan Acerclinth


Number of posts : 1837
Age : 31
Location : Gräv, Sweden
Registration date : 2012-12-10

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Jason White wrote:
Raul Jereb wrote:
Jason White wrote:
Hey now, one at a time. :antoine:

Ok, ok.... anyway, we dont have the same tast in car behaviour... :D
Unless you can make it not to desintegrate when kissing the wall :top:

True. I like my cars looser than you do. Wait. That sounds a bit salacious..  Neutral
Now you are using the correct kind of humour Wink

Just look at me... umm... sort of.

I started out in FWD's (A Golf 1 from 1978) so my basic driving style is "the front is doing what I ask of it, who cars what the rear end is doing" but I am able to adjust it somewhat, at least I thought so before I jumped into the M26 McLaren... :doh:
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Ludovic Tiengou
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Ludovic Tiengou


Number of posts : 2986
Age : 56
Location : Grenoble far away from Brittany, France
Registration date : 2008-12-12

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Jason White wrote:
If you'd like me to come up with a setup for the Eagle-Chevy, I can do that this week.

Could give a shot. Your set for Texas was far more better than anything I could have done. :chinois:
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Eric Plana
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Eric Plana


Number of posts : 366
Age : 50
Location : Barcelona (Spain)
Registration date : 2010-04-29

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I will be in Trenton. :top:
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Michael Drechsler
Pro Driver
Michael Drechsler


Number of posts : 671
Age : 45
Location : Aachen, Germany
Registration date : 2016-03-11

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Count me in! :conduit:

Edit: Got an error '425: Can't open data connection' upon downloading.

Nvrmnd, working now.


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Martin Lacina
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Martin Lacina


Number of posts : 475
Age : 42
Location : Czech Republic
Registration date : 2016-02-16

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I will be there. :conduit:
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Jason White
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Jason White


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Location : Ferndale, MI USA
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Sorry for the inconvenience, but we have one last update for the track.  Mr. Remmen has done an excellent job polishing Trenton, and we wanted to be sure it appears exactly as he intended Wink


Please purge the previous Trenton track completely and DL this (the USAC70s folder goes in your "Locations" Folder).

--> DOWNLOAD UPDATED TRACK <--
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Jacob Fredriksson
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Jacob Fredriksson


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Location : Sweden
Registration date : 2014-01-15

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Track look even better now, thanks guys!

I had a bit of a moment just ahead of Francois just now:

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David Sabre
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Registration date : 2012-02-25

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Great shot :top: . Very cool. Cool
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François Remmen
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François Remmen


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very pleased to see the end result on a good working way
now both track and mod (cars) are shown in full glory and high quality :top:
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Arturo Pereira
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Location : Buenos Aires, Argentina
Registration date : 2013-08-23

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I am in, if there is a car available Smile
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