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Jon Hicken
JB Massida
Rolf Just
Oscar Hardwick
Teemu Toikka
Samuel Muscat
Yoann Quioc
Martin Audran
Bernard Jeanmart
Olivier Philipps
finally gone :)
Giuseppe Scaccia
Oscar Plada
Mario Gassner
Florkin Marc
Frank Verplanken
Ruben Freitas
Carl Larrad
Richard Coxon
Abat Hernaez
Gérard Ryon
Frank Labédan
Victor Alcocer
David Jundt
Karel Marciniszyn
Alessio Campigotto
Gianluca Desposito
Alberto Ibañez
Mike Becnel
Lorenzo Arisi
Tiago Malafaya
Yves Plaçais
Patrick Marucco
Kevin Vanco
Ricardo Magno
Vincent Beretta
Paco Denis
Philippe Martinelli
Greg Hunt
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Guillaume Siebert
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Guillaume Siebert


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Registration date : 2008-09-08

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I think the field was pretty well balanced yesterday. Of course the drivers on the super dogs (Lotus, Arrows, Fondmetal, Modena, Coloni, AGS) are not where they should be, but you can't please everybody, and we can't put the fastest drivers on slower car than they are now without preventing them to be anywhere near the front.
Anyway those slow cars are there for those who either like them, are here hoping for a better car to be available, or just happy to be there. That worked pretty well in F1 79 so I don't see any reason to change.

For the next step, I will post the definitive field in the cars booking topic, and you will have one week to confirm your participation for the championship and select your car number in the team you're in. After this delay, if a driver with a regular seat for the season didn't post, he will be removed and his car made available for a non regular driver, so stay tuned during the Christmas holidays. Wink

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Donc la prochaine étape : je posterai le plateau définitif dans le topic des réservations de voitures, et vous aurez une semaine pour confirmer votre participation et choisir votre numéro de voiture dans l'équipe qui vous a été attribuée. Passé ce délais, un pilote titulaire qui n'aura pas posté sera retiré de la liste et sa voiture sera disponible pour un autre pilote non titulaire, donc restez attentifs pendant les vacances de Noël. Wink
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Tiago Malafaya
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Tiago Malafaya


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Registration date : 2008-10-05

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Lorenzo and Gui to the Lambo... lol!

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Ma course fut brève, mais j'ai pu prendre le départ cette fois-çi, le mod n'a pas planté et l'affichage était correct malgré les 30 voitures au départ...
Je peux donc participer au championnat de la saison prochaine dans ces conditions et relever le défi car le pilotage est sportif... :yaa:

J'aurais plusieurs choses à apprendre sur les réglages de ces voitures, mais je vois que nous sommes plusieurs dans ce cas...

S'il y a des publications de conseils de réglages (en français si çà existe) sur ce mod en particulier, en plus des conseils précieux de Gui, je ne serais pas le seul à vous en remercier... Question

Pour en revenir à la course, mon temps qualifs était égal à celui du serveur d'entraînement ou presque, j'ai dû faire une dixaine de tours pour le réaliser...

J'avais oublié qu'il n'y avait pas de tour de formation... j'ai un peu cafouillé mon départ (à travailler).
Je me suis fait dépasser par une floppée de concurrents, pas important, je voulais rester en piste le plus longtemps possible pour apprendre...
Malheureusement au 3ème tour j'ai "rencontré" Giuseppe (la loi des séries, après le DRM de la semaine dernière...) à la sortie de "Signe", qu'il avait bien raté, mais qu'il était pressé de revenir sur la piste sans trop regarder les petits copains qui restent sur la piste et tente de continuer leur course... Aileron avant perdu et suspension cassée, passage aux stands inutile et abandon...

A la prochaine Wink





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Alberto Ibañez
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Lorenzo and Gui to the Lambo... lol!

+ 1 lol!

But considering that Gui will soon decide the cars for everybody I think we should keep our mouth shut Tiago :spy:


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Tiago Malafaya
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Tiago Malafaya


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lol! lol! I don't need to.... Can't get any car worse than mine; even if they give me the pace car (since it's also a AGS) :D

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Kevin Vanco
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Kevin Vanco


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Age : 35
Location : Liège-Belgique
Registration date : 2012-08-01

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Pascal & me are really sorry for yesterday, we were away because we have been without internet connexion the whole weekend, we got it back this afternoon. This is the only reason we were not on track.

hope you guys understand


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Teemu Toikka
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Teemu Toikka


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Registration date : 2012-09-30

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I had so much fun last night, sorry Mike about the hit in the race, looks like my cornering speed was much greater than yours Rolling Eyes
The fun I had last night makes me sad because I'm a reserve and therefore I wont be doing the full season Crying or Very sad
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David Jundt
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Tiago Malafaya wrote:
Lorenzo and Gui to the Lambo... lol!

I think we need that, smoking us with with Brabham&Larrousse :aie:

Teemu, nothing's set in stone, who knows...

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Oscar Hardwick
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Oscar Hardwick


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Registration date : 2012-10-14

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Guillaume Siebert wrote:
After this delay, if a driver with a regular seat for the season didn't post, he will be removed and his car made available for a non regular driver, so stay tuned during the Christmas holidays. Wink


I'll have to keep a keen eye on this as if I found myself frustrated in the Larousse the agony will only get better (or worse depending on how you see it) when driving the AGS.

Smile

Thanks for the help though Gui. I could have used a few pointers from that list pre-race.

Oscar.
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Ah so you don't want the AGS for the season ? Cause that's the car you have now, and if you don't want it, then somebody else will probably take it and you may find yourself with no car at all at the end. There's no "Oh I'll see if i find something better, but if I don't please give me the AGS". Note that you'll be allowed to switch for something a bit faster if possible during the season if you take the AGS now.
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Jesus Gui that's maquiavelic ... you're almost playing musical chairs with us :rigol:

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Jon Hicken
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Jon Hicken


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Registration date : 2012-10-29

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The AGS can't be that bad. Tiago put it up on 5th, which considering it's a slower car - is definitely a great achievement. Especially after starting 13th!!!


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Oscar Hardwick
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Guillaume Siebert wrote:
Ah so you don't want the AGS for the season ? Cause that's the car you have now, and if you don't want it, then somebody else will probably take it and you may find yourself with no car at all at the end. There's no "Oh I'll see if i find something better, but if I don't please give me the AGS". Note that you'll be allowed to switch for something a bit faster if possible during the season if you take the AGS now.

I think maybe you misunderstood. I will drive the AGS all season if it comes to it but should I be allowed to take a slightly better car then I would pounce on the opportunity to do so.

And Jon. The AGS is THAT BAD. Tiago just did a stunning job and stayed consistent whilst everyone else fell to bits around him.
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Alright then Wink
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Not to mention he used supersofts while I took mediums for the fail Embarassed

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Jon Hicken
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Jon Hicken


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Well, he did what he did and the results showed it worked out.

I think a 30mph speed difference on straights is quite alot, almost an unfair amount - but Tiago showed that playing strategy and the strengths of the car, aswell as the winning ingredient of consistency, CAN bring results. And it did!

We can all say 'if' and 'should have/would have/could have', but results are results! Tiago not only managed to put the car in a good position, but he also stayed on the lead lap.

It's nice to see that efforts are made to balance the field, I guess sometimes there are limitations in the mod which means that there are large gaps in performance between cars. It can be difficult to compensate for that.

It's just a question of playing it well, I suppose. It would be hard to drive on the limit, and get strategy perfect just to keep up, for a whole season. Then again I'm not one to talk - my pace is nowhere near capable of being competitive in these cars! Laughing

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Tiago Malafaya
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Tiago Malafaya


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Yes, the AGS is pretty slow :D

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What were peak speeds of the AGS?

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296 in quali, 293 race near the end

31/30 wings

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Alessio Campigotto wrote:
What were peak speeds of the AGS?

I imagine what I was running in the Larousse as I was on fairly high wing so 180 mph or 288 kph in quali trim and roughly the same come the race in the draft.

Nevermind. Ninja'd by Tiago.
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Wow, even on default set up the Dallara hits 300kph. Should be slightly better on tracks like Phoenix and Monaco, though Wink

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The AGS is not underpowered, its just Tiago who isn't very good in straight lines because he can't slide there.
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Had 282 at the beginning and 285 at the end (33/33) with the Lotus. What Tiago did with the AGS is crazy. Big respect.

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Guillaume Siebert wrote:
The AGS is not underpowered, its just Tiago who isn't very good in straight lines because he can't slide there.

lol!

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Martin Audran wrote:
Guillaume Siebert wrote:
The AGS is not underpowered, its just Tiago who isn't very good in straight lines because he can't slide there.

lol!

Ouch :aie: lol!

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