Test race @ Paul Ricard [Dec. 16th]

Greg Goissen wrote:

jamais vu ca alors que je m amusais bien avec alberto d un coup la voiture est devenue incontrolable , je comprenais pas ce qui se passait , j ai pensé a une crevaison et en fait apparemment j ai eu une rupture des disques de freins

ayant la conduite frein sur le max je sens que ce champ va tourner court pour moi si apres 20 tours mes disques explosent qu est que ca sera sur 2 h de course surtout que la c etait vraiment pas un circuit violent pour les freins

"Conduite de frein", c'est la taille des écopes, le refroidissement. Il y a un autre paramètre dans le dernier onglet du setup qui permet de modifier l’épaisseur des disques de freins, il faut être au max là aussi.

Oscar Hardwick wrote:

Alberto Ibañez wrote:

BTW and elaborating on what Oscar said ... fast or slow I noticed some very dangerous differences in driving style and car setup in the race. Some cars/drivers have really VERY different braking (Noy just deeper or earlier, but DIFFERENT, like braking when the car behind can go almost flat through) and turn in points than others, and with the world going so fast in this mod, this is bound to cause a LOT of trouble.

I agree. The main issue for say myself or anyone in one of the much much slower cars is that the engines are so low on power that setting the car up for straight line speed is pointless. We do however have plenty of wing and can generate some grip. So whilst we go slow in a straight line we are taking loads of speed through corners and braking zones. I know this is a difference on my part but with the penalty of a bad car we HAVE to set the car up this way just to get close to anyone in a car that actually works.

It is worth remembering that in F1 no driver lacks ability but the cars themselves vary dramatically like they do in this mod. With the balance for this league being ability and cars that allow people the best chance, it is a lovely notion but it causes serious issues between drivers on track. For example when my race ended running in to Carl. Not really his fault, more mine but I couldn't react fast enough and at a slow speed part of the track he was braking a good 50m earlier than I was doing so when he stamped on the brakes I was still hard on the power.

I don't know if anything could be done to avoid issues like this with the rules and setup of the league as it is but I will keep trying to find a good medium. Although that'll be even more difficult in the AGS.

Oscar.

But when you give Lorenzo and Gui a Williams, considering their times with the pile of shit they are currently driving, I don't think we would enjoy it as much

Quelqu'un se sentirait chaud pour traduire la partie moteur du fichier PDF pour les physics du mod,j'avoue ne pas avoir tout compris

Oscar Hardwick wrote:

For example when my race ended running in to Carl. Not really his fault, more mine but I couldn't react fast enough and at a slow speed part of the track he was braking a good 50m earlier than I was doing so when he stamped on the brakes I was still hard on the power.
Oscar.

I Am sorry for causing your accident this is why i decided to retire from the race before i ended anyone elses race

I have to agree with Alessio ...
You where parked in a dangerous place
for at least 2 laps what where you doing there

Carl Larrad wrote:

Oscar Hardwick wrote:

For example when my race ended running in to Carl. Not really his fault, more mine but I couldn't react fast enough and at a slow speed part of the track he was braking a good 50m earlier than I was doing so when he stamped on the brakes I was still hard on the power.
Oscar.

I Am sorry for causing your accident this is why i decided to retire from the race before i ended anyone elses
but i have to agree with Alessio ...
You where parked in a dangerous place
for at least 2 laps what where you doing there

Probably cursing my name or inventing new curse words.


Man...this was a practice race, wait until the ranting starts in the full races. Bumper sticker on front will say (backwards) "If you see this in the race bad things may happen soon"

Mike Becnel wrote:

Carl Larrad wrote:

Oscar Hardwick wrote:

For example when my race ended running in to Carl. Not really his fault, more mine but I couldn't react fast enough and at a slow speed part of the track he was braking a good 50m earlier than I was doing so when he stamped on the brakes I was still hard on the power.
Oscar.

I Am sorry for causing your accident this is why i decided to retire from the race before i ended anyone elses
but i have to agree with Alessio ...
You where parked in a dangerous place
for at least 2 laps what where you doing there

Probably cursing my name or inventing new curse words.


Man...this was a practice race, wait until the ranting starts in the full races. Bumper sticker on front will say (backwards) "If you see this in the race bad things may happen soon"

Duuuuhhhhhhhhhh.... I finished 8th, but rather lucky. Greg and JB were so much faster than me. I really need Greg's help if we get teamed up. Or Jens Kraft as engineer

Otherwise I am pleased I finished. Sorry for the late moving Gui, you had the same car as Davi and I noticed a bit too late.

Broadcast replay here:

http://livestre.am/4gf8r

Alberto Ibañez wrote:

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I'll make you keep up to that promise; I want my 15m of fame throughout the season

That will make Frank use all his experience as commentator, I can already envision it ...

"Tiago crashes against the barrier in the first turn"

"He walks back to the pits"

"Still walking"

"It's a long way back"

"He waves to Arisi as he passes by lapping the field for the 3rd time"

"Already there!"

"OK, let's return to the head of the field for the last 5 minutes of the race, seems exciting"

I guess your prediction was wrong Alberto :p

Carl Larrad wrote:

Oscar Hardwick wrote:

For example when my race ended running in to Carl. Not really his fault, more mine but I couldn't react fast enough and at a slow speed part of the track he was braking a good 50m earlier than I was doing so when he stamped on the brakes I was still hard on the power.
Oscar.

I Am sorry for causing your accident this is why i decided to retire from the race before i ended anyone elses race

I have to agree with Alessio ...
You where parked in a dangerous place
for at least 2 laps what where you doing there

I had stalled and was intent on starting again.

That would be a neat trick. Is there a "call crew to restart car" button I am not aware of?

ah mais parce qu on peut chosir la taille des disques de freins ( j avais pas vu )

Oscar Hardwick wrote:

Carl Larrad wrote:

Oscar Hardwick wrote:

For example when my race ended running in to Carl. Not really his fault, more mine but I couldn't react fast enough and at a slow speed part of the track he was braking a good 50m earlier than I was doing so when he stamped on the brakes I was still hard on the power.
Oscar.

I Am sorry for causing your accident this is why i decided to retire from the race before i ended anyone elses race

I have to agree with Alessio ...
You where parked in a dangerous place
for at least 2 laps what where you doing there

I had stalled and was intent on starting again.

No in-car starters in Formula One...

How did he stall? No Auto clutch?

I don't use auto-clutch aswell

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The main issue for say myself or anyone in one of the much much slower cars is that the engines are so low on power that setting the car up for straight line speed is pointless. We do however have plenty of wing and can generate some grip. So whilst we go slow in a straight line we are taking loads of speed through corners and braking zones. I know this is a difference on my part but with the penalty of a bad car we HAVE to set the car up this way just to get close to anyone in a car that actually works.

That's exactly what I meant. There are in general big differences already in the cars, but a slower driver on a fast car will make the most of it with less wing, while the faster driver on the slow car will do the opposite. And the problem is that this just INCREASES even more the difference in pace on all parts of the track: we fly past you in the straights, and you brake well before us (Both because of the extra wings and the less speed you have when arriving at the braking point) and corner faster

We will soon see smoke coming out of Gui's head when he tries to find a solution for that ...

Je n'ai pas encore visionné le replay mais dès le départ j'ai senti un choc à l'arrière puis quelques tours plus tard je n'ai pu eviter une F1 en travers dans une courbe
Tout cela a bien modifié le parallélisme de ma Williams puisque j'avais le volant de travers mais j'ai tout de même continué pour mener le test à son terme et finalement j'ai pris l'habitude de piloter de cette façon et j'ai reussi à amener ma Williams à l'arrivée apres avoir passé une tres agreable soirée

Un sacré challenge que de piloter ces F1, j'adore

Phoenix is sooo much easier with 60/60 wings.

Watching the replay I realize anyway how decisive the Mistral straight here was ... probably in other tracks that don't have such a long one followed by a fast corner -where the biggest difference in backing up came to play- this won't be so critical.

I think once we start the championship people will "settle" and we´ll have less trouble. We are in practice races, it´s normal to have troubles. Once we have some races under our belt we´ll have a better idea of how the cars react, who are dangerous to have around etc...asking for changes this soon is pointless. I learned in Jerez that i better avoided staying behind someone at the end of long straights, because those cars can brake superfast and before you notice you are already ramming him from behind.

About my race, not bad, finished without much fuss and didn´t have any serious mistake. But this chassis is really atrocious, my god it turns like a 16 wheel truck. It´s quite bearable in qualy but once you start adding fuel...Phoenix will be absolute hell at full tanks

Je n'ai pas participé aux courses open mais apres avoir testé ce MOd vraiment super!! Je serais présent pour participer à la saison.

I do not know tune the setup F1 car but I'm enjoying the Brabham car

Tiago P5 !!!

Alessio Campigotto wrote:

No in-car starters in Formula One...

In fact it was mandatory for F1 cars to have an in-car starter, but to save some crucial weight the battery was so tiny that it could barely perform an in-car start. I think the regulations still mention that a car must start by its own means... except in the pits and on the grid before the start where an external starter is allowed .

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I guess your prediction was wrong Alberto :p

Of course it was a joke, and I'm glad you did well

Of course, but always possible to happen

Yeah I was just laughing about the idea of what Frank would have to do in order to give you the promised 15 minutes of broadcast IF you crash

I must say that while I enjoyed the race, I was several times thinking "God I would love to hear the broadcast" ... I'm so used to crappy spanish or german commentators, always unshamedly biased towards Alonso or Vettel, that I really really wanted to hear Frank Ben and Antoine commentating in english of course