1988 DTM - Brno [August 5th]

Its the same mod and same version than the ATCC championship.

Ah good, I might take part then.

Already got some Sierra experience from driving in Season 3 of the World Touring Masters for example

David Jundt wrote:

Btw: I think Markus Östreich's name is wrong. Here's a German list of all DTM drivers:
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_der_DTM-Fahrer
(Although Oestreich instead of Ö seems to be right aswell, now truck racer)

I never saw his name spelled with the ümlaut, it was always Oestreich. Unlike the country with a similar name : either Oesterreich or Österreich seem to be correct ? But then maybe Markus Östreich is correct too ? Makes me think of Reinhold Jöst, founder of... Joest Racing ^^ - smartass PR made him drop the strange ümlaut for his team name I guess

Yeah, might be wrong there with Ö, I might have seen him once or twice with it maybe. Because Oe usually leads to Ö, but it might be that it's just the way his name is spelled.

But it's surely not Oestrich

And why was Joest better for PR than Jöst? Because people from other countries wouldn't have to search for the ö on their keyboard when writting the name each time?

David Jundt wrote:

And why was Joest better for PR than Jöst? Because people from other countries wouldn't have to search for the ö on their keyboard when writting the name each time?

Yes I guess it was something along those lines (easier for ads, race programmes, race posters, ...etc.). Or maybe Reinhold could stand to be called Monsieur Djoste by frenchmen or Mister Djoost by anglo-saxons, but he really wanted them to get the name right for his team. I wouldn't have bothered in his place coz dropping the ümlaut does not make them pronounce the "J" correctly anyway !

David...pick a car or I will get mod rights here and pick a Yugo for you (and you will still beat me with it).

David Jundt wrote:

Question: If I have this one and the ATCC one in the same install, do they interfere with each other(mismatches and etc.)?

Btw: I think Markus Östreich's name is wrong. Here's a German list of all DTM drivers:

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_der_DTM-Fahrer

(Although Oestreich instead of Ö seems to be right aswell, now truck racer)

Well, maybe they cant make "dots" ?


Was only allowed in the 20s when the Printing Press had no : availiable.


And i first thought you meant the country lol

Mike Becnel wrote:

David...pick a car or I will get mod rights here and pick a Yugo for you (and you will still beat me with it).

Come again? Yugo?

Hello,

La Ford Sierra RS500 Cosworth #18 Klaus Ludwig, Please.

David Jundt wrote:

Mike Becnel wrote:

David...pick a car or I will get mod rights here and pick a Yugo for you (and you will still beat me with it).

Come again? Yugo?

A Yugo was a VERY cheap Eastern European car sold in the US with 2 hampsters for a motor. They were under fed.

I was already thinking along the lines of a Moskwitsch(Moskvitch) or a Trabant.

Mon dieu, je ne gagne rien avec cet pot de fleurs


Alright, just kidding.

We had a fer Yugo's here in Portugal ...
But here, you know, people reather like to have a fine Merc or BMW and live on a cave, then driving a Yugo and live with some dignity!

BMW M3 n° 9.
Merci


Je prendrai plutôt la 54 , le rouge ça m'excite de trop, j'ai l'impression de conduire une Ferrari .

David Cid wrote:

We had a fer Yugo's here in Portugal ...
But here, you know, people reather like to have a fine Merc or BMW and live on a cave, then driving a Yugo and live with some dignity!

True

I'll jump into the last Sierra of Biela with the #19.

haha, le temps de lorenzo ... 2.09 quand je suis à bloc en 2.15 ...

Laurent Binet wrote:

haha, le temps de lorenzo ... 2.09 quand je suis à bloc en 2.15 ...

Do not worry, I will be slow also! You will not be alone.

Ne vous inquiétez pas, je serai lent aussi! Vous ne serez pas seul.

(my apologies if Google translator translated my English to French saying something like "No worries, I am retarded also! We can have a group orgy!")

The time of lorenzo is able if you get some grip on the corner exit.

he had some oversteer during corner exit so i adapted the setup everyone is currently using (some guys had the same), so he had more grip in the corners and especially a good handling on corner exit.

A little happiness by side, but it certainly helped to make the car faster.
But the tires of the car last one lap only now and the car has a little weight understeer in trailing corners, i might try to sort that out and spend some tracktime or not lol.

Gui martin and tiago will go the same time its only some tweaking necessary


edit: maybe anyone interested in the setup like these who desperatedly guess some values out and are totally off track?

in another racing league after some time the faster drivers offered hints and setup tips. for example a time of 2 14 could be reduced to 2 12 by many tweaks. (1sec / minute)

Actually, that was a quite good translation by Google there, Mike.

Mike Becnel wrote:

(my apologies if Google translator translated my English to French saying something like "No worries, I am retarded also! We can have a group orgy!")

It amazes me how much 3 or 4 turns (of 13) can impact total lap time. I mapped out my best lap vs. one of Gui's fast laps in a previous race here. In turns 1 through 8 I am as fast as Gui was, then it unravels. I am 3 or 4 mph slower at the acceleration points and corner exit on 10, 11 and 13 as well as the S/F line. On 9 and 12 I brake too late almost every time. This ends up costing me 5 seconds to Gui's time!

I am working this 1 corner at a time. On a 2 min/lap track that takes a while

Great track for learning not to accelerate too soon. I mapped out 3 of Gui's laps for accel points alone. Amazing how consistant he is. My ass is all over the place on accel points. Need to talk to my right foot about blowing its load too fast.

Mike Becnel wrote:

It amazes me how much 3 or 4 turns (of 13) can impact total lap time. I mapped out my best lap vs. one of Gui's fast laps in a previous race here. In turns 1 through 8 I am as fast as Gui was, then it unravels. I am 3 or 4 mph slower at the acceleration points and corner exit on 10, 11 and 13 as well as the S/F line. On 9 and 12 I brake too late almost every time. This ends up costing me 5 seconds to Gui's time!

I am working this 1 corner at a time. On a 2 min/lap track that takes a while

Great track for learning not to accelerate too soon. I mapped out 3 of Gui's laps for accel points alone. Amazing how consistant he is. My ass is all over the place on accel points. Need to talk to my right foot about blowing its load too fast.

one time gui will finally make us race on a skid pad

Jens Kraft wrote:

one time gui will finally make us race on a skid pad

I will be crumpled up on the outside somewhere.

Mike Becnel wrote:

Need to talk to my right foot about blowing its load too fast.

Look at the bright side, it would be more embarrassing if that concerned another part of your anatomy.

On a more serious note, it is indeed an interesting track, almost too big for those cars. Their weak engines and low torque require very precise driving to maximize cornering speed. If you lose too much speed into the turns, you don't have the horsepower to compensate, and you'll lose lots of time in the next straight.