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 BMW M1 1979/80 Procar mod _WIP

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Kimmo Kononen
Guillaume Siebert
Jukka Närhi
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Patrick Marucco
Yves Plaçais
Tiago Malafaya
Gianluca Desposito
Alberto Ibañez
Carl Larrad
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Jukka Närhi
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PostSubject: Re: BMW M1 1979/80 Procar mod _WIP   BMW M1 1979/80 Procar mod _WIP - Page 3 Icon_minitimeSat 16 Oct 2010 - 19:37

I was just wondering, should we have a dedicated modding section for this one? Archive doesn't seem a suitable place for something that's being worked on Wink It could also be used to house possible future developments by HSO; physics updates, tracks etc. etc.
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PostSubject: Re: BMW M1 1979/80 Procar mod _WIP   BMW M1 1979/80 Procar mod _WIP - Page 3 Icon_minitimeSat 16 Oct 2010 - 19:40

Well there's already a hidden modding section in fact Smile
But as we did not know Alberto at all before, we put this Procar modding section here so that he would be able to post. Now that you ask, maybe we should consider moving that thread in the modding section.
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Alberto Ibañez
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PostSubject: Re: BMW M1 1979/80 Procar mod _WIP   BMW M1 1979/80 Procar mod _WIP - Page 3 Icon_minitimeSun 17 Oct 2010 - 9:28

I have finally been able to contact with a guy who has the scale model, and he has offered to make pictures of it so we can copy the logos. Cross your fingers and hope the logos are well usable! Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: BMW M1 1979/80 Procar mod _WIP   BMW M1 1979/80 Procar mod _WIP - Page 3 Icon_minitimeSun 17 Oct 2010 - 12:45

Thats great news Alberto did you get the email i sent you as
i have added some very good .psd pics of the bonnet and sides ...

If you have trouble opening them i can send them to you as jpg's Wink


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Yes I got it, thought I had replied confirming it BMW M1 1979/80 Procar mod _WIP - Page 3 18590 but must have forgotten BMW M1 1979/80 Procar mod _WIP - Page 3 161590

Tim has already sent me the pictures of his scale model, they are good enough for using the logos, so I will next try to isolate and prepare them as copy & paste templates cheers
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Just incase you cant open the .psd here are the best one's

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Good Luck Alberto Wink

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PostSubject: Re: BMW M1 1979/80 Procar mod _WIP   BMW M1 1979/80 Procar mod _WIP - Page 3 Icon_minitimeSun 17 Oct 2010 - 14:04

Thanks mate had already downloaded GIMP BMW M1 1979/80 Procar mod _WIP - Page 3 652294

Right now what I need is the files for the new #71 car, I try to create it from one of the existing, giving new IDs etc but I get crashes. Can you do upload the needed files for the new car, so I can test my WIP in the game?

I'm not familiar with adding cars in rFactor, I knew how in F1Challenge but even that I have already forgotten LOL
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PostSubject: Re: BMW M1 1979/80 Procar mod _WIP   BMW M1 1979/80 Procar mod _WIP - Page 3 Icon_minitimeSun 17 Oct 2010 - 14:10

What you need is vehicle viewer its a program which enables you to open the veh file and view the painted vehicle without
having to start the game all the time ....

Sorry alberto i have to go out ...Will do it later ...

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OK cheers will get it. In any case sooner or later we need the new #71 car in the game.
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Email sent this is what DDS file looks like in Vehicle viewer ive added a little cream to the
dds file as i dont think its a pure white colour ...

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Vehicle Viewer program can be downloaded from here http://www.thepits.us/rfiles.html
saves me hours when painting saves you keep having to go
into the game to view your newly painted skins .... Wink

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Cheers, got everything now. I have already painted both sides and the roof of the car. And let me tell you that it is a true BITCH of a car to paint pig

If I ever get to race online with you guys, this will be my car; after so much effort I'm putting into it I would not miss driving it LOL
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PostSubject: Re: BMW M1 1979/80 Procar mod _WIP   BMW M1 1979/80 Procar mod _WIP - Page 3 Icon_minitimeSun 17 Oct 2010 - 19:33

Welcome to my pain lol!

If you can paint this car ill make sure we reserve it for you not sure how
but you will deserve it :hihi:

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PostSubject: Re: BMW M1 1979/80 Procar mod _WIP   BMW M1 1979/80 Procar mod _WIP - Page 3 Icon_minitimeSun 17 Oct 2010 - 22:49

Still lots of details to polish, but it is taking shape:

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I must say that once you get familiar with the details, it's a lovely car. Not a spectacular paint job, but a very nice one if you look carefully. cheers
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PostSubject: Re: BMW M1 1979/80 Procar mod _WIP   BMW M1 1979/80 Procar mod _WIP - Page 3 Icon_minitimeSun 17 Oct 2010 - 22:54

Guys, do you know that with this new mod you will force us to make a new Procar season next year at HSO, that's not very cool. :bangry: :D

Honnestly, I'm very glad to see this section is so alive because atm I have very little time to help on modding and stuff like this, i'm glad to see HSO can become a place where cool things can happen without the help of its admins. Smile Keep pushing !
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PostSubject: Re: BMW M1 1979/80 Procar mod _WIP   BMW M1 1979/80 Procar mod _WIP - Page 3 Icon_minitimeSun 17 Oct 2010 - 23:03

:banane: :banane: Wow Alberto You've done great mate cant wait to see the finished article ... :banane: :banane:

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Guillaume Siebert wrote:
Guys, do you know that with this new mod you will force us to make a new Procar season next year at HSO, that's not very cool. :bangry: :D

Honnestly, I'm very glad to see this section is so alive because atm I have very little time to help on modding and stuff like this, i'm glad to see HSO can become a place where cool things can happen without the help of its admins. Smile Keep pushing !

It was never my intention to create another season of racing on HSO i would have been happy with just an open event for testing purposes ...But i would be overjoyed if we could host another season sometime ... :hihi:

One Idea i did have was when we release Version 2 we could maybe advertise a series or an open race on HSO upon release so this maybe bring some New Drivers to HSO ...... :hum:

Has HSO got the bandwith or capacity to be able to host the mod for download purposes .....We could again direct people to HSO to download the mod ..... :raclure:

Im also very pushed for time and believe me when i say i get lots of ear ache from the Mrs about the amount of time im spending on the pc , im actually finding it hard to race at the moment and i might pull out of GTU as i need time to concentrate on this and other projects .... :papy:

There just is not enough hours in the day ... :flag:

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Carl Larrad wrote:
Ive crossed the Merzario cars off the 1979 list as im sure they only raced in 1980
but ive found another car which ive never seen before its the
Eggenberger car that apparently raced at Silverstone in 1979 .. :doh:
Gianluca would you like to have ago at this one as that paint scheme is making me feel sick lol!

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Only 11 cars to go and whatever we put in the revival season ... :flag:

Carl i try to make this skin for Eggenberger.
About Merzario cars, i had a base paint ready, i do only put on the sponsors, what i can do !? I'm going to finish Merzario or not Suspect :D

Great skin Alberto, there are not simple to make it! :top: cheers
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It was never my intention to create another season of racing on HSO i would have been happy with just an open event for testing purposes ...But i would be overjoyed if we could host another season sometime ... BMW M1 1979/80 Procar mod _WIP - Page 3 228364

Same here, but I suggest that once the mod is finished HSO organizes an open event so we can have a test in real conditions of how the mod works. I would suggest the 2008 PROCAR revival race as candidate for an open event, it's the perfect one BMW M1 1979/80 Procar mod _WIP - Page 3 111594

Thanks Gianluca, painting any car is difficult but with the excellent template provided by Carl things are actually much easier BMW M1 1979/80 Procar mod _WIP - Page 3 12028 I can well appreciate how much work you guys put in these skins!
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Found a picture of Prinz Leopold's helmet BMW M1 1979/80 Procar mod _WIP - Page 3 153974 :

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Alberto
I think we should have ago at painting the helmets as well good find on the Leopold helmet
i started on the helmets for the original mod but they never got completed before the mod was released quite often this is an area that gets missed on a mod ...

I Also need to go through every vehicle file and make sure each car has the correct wheels and tyres :hihi:
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Gianluca
Thats fine carry on with the Merzario cars mate ...

If you would like to have ago at the 1979 Eggenberger car thats would be great also ....
I Cant find any more pics of this car so some of it maybe a guess ... :top:

Thx for the Eggenberger 1980 car know crossed of the list :drink:

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RE the correct tyres ... this is something quite peculiar, as research so far doesn't seem to confirm that Dunlops were official in 1980. There are some pics of certain races where some cars are seen on dunlops, but its mostly Good Year, specially for the official cars. Instead, later cars (1981 onwards) seems to be shod with Dunlops in most pictures, f.e. the car I'm painting right now. I would suggest leaving the Good Years for all the original 1979-80 PROCAR cars, and then giving Dunlops to all other cars, be them revival or later cars that we will push into the revival season as Gr. 4 M1s

I have created two tyre files with different characteristics so far, the Dunlops being softer and warming up quicker. But I haven't yet given them a different slip curve, I might make them more *a bit* forgiving and easy to drive, perhaps that was the real evolution of the M1 tyres if you ask me ...
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I Cant understand when we released the original mod why we put the 1979 cars on Dunlop
and the 1980 cars on Goodyears i have no idea where that came from scratch

Your idea for the tyres sounds good to me .... Wink

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Only little fron part of the Kelleners car on to the left :spy:
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lol! http://www.autodiva.fr/forum/download/file.php?id=38165&mode=view It is i think .. :S
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Yes your right Gianluca as it has the sunstrip on the top of the window ...

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