Round 3 - Kyalami [Mar. 1st]

Honza Mild wrote:

I will be there  (hope for session change...)

Please test it on server!!

Mike Becnel wrote:

Honza Mild wrote:

I will be there  (hope for session change...)

Please test it on server!!

How? when i was alone at server, it was impossible change session.

The top hotlaps are nearly 3 seconds faster than the real life qualifying laps! Its crazy how much altitude affects engine power (which isn't modeled in RF2)

Dan Faas wrote:

The top hotlaps are nearly 3 seconds faster than the real life qualifying laps! Its crazy how much altitude affects engine power (which isn't modeled in RF2)

My time is on the HSO Kyalami server with heavy rubber
I have not run it at the 1979 F1 server yet
Just so you know. Not sure I can do 8s on a green track....
And BTW I have always believed that this version of Kyalami is two seconds 'too fast' if you know what I mean
On another note: The Renault turbos at high altitude were bullets...

Yes, with dynamic weather implemented one would have thought it wouldn't have been too hard to add altitude into the equation . Would be easy enough to do a patch with diminished engine performances now that I think of it. But then it would give the Renault yet even more of an edge, so maybe it's for the best ;p

Frank Verplanken wrote:

Yes, with dynamic weather implemented one would have thought it wouldn't have been too hard to add altitude into the equation . Would be easy enough to do a patch with diminished engine performances now that I think of it. But then it would give the Renault yet even more of an edge, so maybe it's for the best ;p

Frank, go for it!

Frank Verplanken wrote:

Yes, with dynamic weather implemented one would have thought it wouldn't have been too hard to add altitude into the equation . Would be easy enough to do a patch with diminished engine performances now that I think of it. But then it would give the Renault yet even more of an edge, so maybe it's for the best ;p

Well if all engine power was reduced across the board then it wouldn't really matter. From what I understand since turbo pressure vs altitude really isnt implemented it would just reduce the turbo engines power the same as it would the regular engines.

On the contrary : a turbocharged car is less affected by altitude as you can increase your boost to make up for the lowering of the atmospheric pressure. With an "atmo" engine (no turbo or compressor) you don't have that option .

Mario Gassner wrote:

Frank, go for it!

Too short notice for this year's Kyalami race :p. But while we're in the accuracy business regarding patches we might as well edit the reliability values, in which case you Renault guys might not be so hot to have a patch anymore I think !

Frank Verplanken wrote:

Mario Gassner wrote:

Frank, go for it!

Too short notice for this year's Kyalami race :p. But while we're in the accuracy business regarding patches we might as well edit the reliability values, in which case you Renault guys might not be so hot to have a patch anymore I think !

Stop it right now ;-)

Frank Verplanken wrote:

On the contrary : a turbocharged car is less affected by altitude as you can increase your boost to make up for the lowering of the atmospheric pressure. With an "atmo" engine (no turbo or compressor) you don't have that option .

I totally agree, but from what I understand atmospheric pressure vs boost pressure isnt modeled in rfactor 2.

Dan Faas wrote:

Frank Verplanken wrote:

On the contrary : a turbocharged car is less affected by altitude as you can increase your boost to make up for the lowering of the atmospheric pressure. With an "atmo" engine (no turbo or compressor) you don't have that option .

I totally agree, but from what I understand atmospheric pressure vs boost pressure isnt modeled in rfactor 2.

I yes OK right we were at cross purposes there. What I meant is it would be easy to make a patch that deprives the Renault from, say, 7.5% of its power, while at the same time downgrading the non-turbos by 15%. Just using random numbers here but you see what I mean . That would simulate the effect of altitude or rather its outcome I guess.

Totally agree Frank. I like the idea of patching this mod at some point. i have tried to contact the mod authors about some of my critiques (no adjustable boost pressure is the big one) and no response unfortunately.

I know they are very busy with several projects simultaneously, one of which is a v2.0 for this mod so we'll see what that adds to the mod. The numerous car upgrades like in the original mod would also be a nice thing to have.

Maybe you can remove my time at the top of the standings because it was set in different conditions and different server

Done

Merci.
It seems that not much difference in track...

Confirmation

I am not able to participate in the qualification but I should be able to start the race.

Yep, will be on track, maybe at the very last moment but i will.
The Ensign will not be left to gather dust,
cheers

Unfortunately, I had family come into town at the last moment so I will not be available for the race.