| Round 3 - Kyalami [Mar. 1st] | |
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+25Mick Chapman Tomáš Matoušek Vaclav Burda Bruno Chacon Frank Verplanken Greg Hunt Honza Mild Michal Janak Andre Cunha Adam Hackman Florkin Marc Antonio Atzeni Steve Parker Paulo Rodrigues Vadim Taciak Dan Faas Petr Hlavac Gérard Ryon Paul Velasco Claudio Navonne Karel Marciniszyn Gabriele Del Piccolo Vladislav Zenkov Mario Gassner Mike Becnel 29 posters |
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Mike Becnel Racing Legend
Number of posts : 4741 Age : 56 Location : Sugar Land, TX, USA Registration date : 2012-06-24
| Subject: Re: Round 3 - Kyalami [Mar. 1st] Sat 22 Feb 2020 - 21:19 | |
| - Honza Mild wrote:
- I will be there (hope for session change...)
Please test it on server!! | |
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Honza Mild Pro Driver
Number of posts : 534 Age : 48 Location : Czech republic, South Bohemia Registration date : 2009-11-04
| Subject: Re: Round 3 - Kyalami [Mar. 1st] Sat 22 Feb 2020 - 22:39 | |
| - Mike Becnel wrote:
- Honza Mild wrote:
- I will be there (hope for session change...)
Please test it on server!! How? when i was alone at server, it was impossible change session. | |
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Greg Hunt Racing Legend
Number of posts : 4322 Age : 40 Location : HOSSEGOR Registration date : 2010-03-25
| Subject: Re: Round 3 - Kyalami [Mar. 1st] Mon 24 Feb 2020 - 13:05 | |
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Dan Faas Club Driver
Number of posts : 58 Age : 33 Location : Wisconsin, USA Registration date : 2019-11-25
| Subject: Re: Round 3 - Kyalami [Mar. 1st] Mon 24 Feb 2020 - 17:30 | |
| The top hotlaps are nearly 3 seconds faster than the real life qualifying laps! Its crazy how much altitude affects engine power (which isn't modeled in RF2) | |
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Paul Velasco Experienced Driver
Number of posts : 260 Age : 63 Location : Berlin Registration date : 2020-01-01
| Subject: Re: Round 3 - Kyalami [Mar. 1st] Mon 24 Feb 2020 - 17:32 | |
| - Dan Faas wrote:
- The top hotlaps are nearly 3 seconds faster than the real life qualifying laps! Its crazy how much altitude affects engine power (which isn't modeled in RF2)
My time is on the HSO Kyalami server with heavy rubber I have not run it at the 1979 F1 server yet Just so you know. Not sure I can do 8s on a green track.... And BTW I have always believed that this version of Kyalami is two seconds 'too fast' if you know what I mean On another note: The Renault turbos at high altitude were bullets... | |
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Frank Verplanken League Owner
Number of posts : 13574 Age : 49 Location : Nice, France Registration date : 2008-09-08
| Subject: Re: Round 3 - Kyalami [Mar. 1st] Mon 24 Feb 2020 - 17:39 | |
| Yes, with dynamic weather implemented one would have thought it wouldn't have been too hard to add altitude into the equation . Would be easy enough to do a patch with diminished engine performances now that I think of it. But then it would give the Renault yet even more of an edge, so maybe it's for the best ;p | |
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Mario Gassner Experienced Driver
Number of posts : 306 Age : 41 Location : Principality of Liechtenstein Registration date : 2008-11-22
| Subject: Re: Round 3 - Kyalami [Mar. 1st] Mon 24 Feb 2020 - 17:46 | |
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Dan Faas Club Driver
Number of posts : 58 Age : 33 Location : Wisconsin, USA Registration date : 2019-11-25
| Subject: Re: Round 3 - Kyalami [Mar. 1st] Mon 24 Feb 2020 - 17:56 | |
| - Frank Verplanken wrote:
- Yes, with dynamic weather implemented one would have thought it wouldn't have been too hard to add altitude into the equation . Would be easy enough to do a patch with diminished engine performances now that I think of it. But then it would give the Renault yet even more of an edge, so maybe it's for the best ;p
Well if all engine power was reduced across the board then it wouldn't really matter. From what I understand since turbo pressure vs altitude really isnt implemented it would just reduce the turbo engines power the same as it would the regular engines. | |
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Frank Verplanken League Owner
Number of posts : 13574 Age : 49 Location : Nice, France Registration date : 2008-09-08
| Subject: Re: Round 3 - Kyalami [Mar. 1st] Mon 24 Feb 2020 - 18:05 | |
| On the contrary : a turbocharged car is less affected by altitude as you can increase your boost to make up for the lowering of the atmospheric pressure. With an "atmo" engine (no turbo or compressor) you don't have that option . | |
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Frank Verplanken League Owner
Number of posts : 13574 Age : 49 Location : Nice, France Registration date : 2008-09-08
| Subject: Re: Round 3 - Kyalami [Mar. 1st] Mon 24 Feb 2020 - 18:07 | |
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Mario Gassner Experienced Driver
Number of posts : 306 Age : 41 Location : Principality of Liechtenstein Registration date : 2008-11-22
| Subject: Re: Round 3 - Kyalami [Mar. 1st] Mon 24 Feb 2020 - 18:16 | |
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Frank Verplanken League Owner
Number of posts : 13574 Age : 49 Location : Nice, France Registration date : 2008-09-08
| Subject: Re: Round 3 - Kyalami [Mar. 1st] Mon 24 Feb 2020 - 18:18 | |
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Dan Faas Club Driver
Number of posts : 58 Age : 33 Location : Wisconsin, USA Registration date : 2019-11-25
| Subject: Re: Round 3 - Kyalami [Mar. 1st] Mon 24 Feb 2020 - 18:19 | |
| - Frank Verplanken wrote:
- On the contrary : a turbocharged car is less affected by altitude as you can increase your boost to make up for the lowering of the atmospheric pressure. With an "atmo" engine (no turbo or compressor) you don't have that option .
I totally agree, but from what I understand atmospheric pressure vs boost pressure isnt modeled in rfactor 2. | |
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Bruno Chacon Experienced Driver
Number of posts : 476 Age : 64 Location : Brazil Registration date : 2017-03-08
| Subject: Re: Round 3 - Kyalami [Mar. 1st] Mon 24 Feb 2020 - 18:26 | |
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Frank Verplanken League Owner
Number of posts : 13574 Age : 49 Location : Nice, France Registration date : 2008-09-08
| Subject: Re: Round 3 - Kyalami [Mar. 1st] Mon 24 Feb 2020 - 18:31 | |
| - Dan Faas wrote:
- Frank Verplanken wrote:
- On the contrary : a turbocharged car is less affected by altitude as you can increase your boost to make up for the lowering of the atmospheric pressure. With an "atmo" engine (no turbo or compressor) you don't have that option .
I totally agree, but from what I understand atmospheric pressure vs boost pressure isnt modeled in rfactor 2. I yes OK right we were at cross purposes there. What I meant is it would be easy to make a patch that deprives the Renault from, say, 7.5% of its power, while at the same time downgrading the non-turbos by 15%. Just using random numbers here but you see what I mean . That would simulate the effect of altitude or rather its outcome I guess. | |
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Dan Faas Club Driver
Number of posts : 58 Age : 33 Location : Wisconsin, USA Registration date : 2019-11-25
| Subject: Re: Round 3 - Kyalami [Mar. 1st] Mon 24 Feb 2020 - 18:47 | |
| Totally agree Frank. I like the idea of patching this mod at some point. i have tried to contact the mod authors about some of my critiques (no adjustable boost pressure is the big one) and no response unfortunately. | |
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Frank Verplanken League Owner
Number of posts : 13574 Age : 49 Location : Nice, France Registration date : 2008-09-08
| Subject: Re: Round 3 - Kyalami [Mar. 1st] Mon 24 Feb 2020 - 18:54 | |
| I know they are very busy with several projects simultaneously, one of which is a v2.0 for this mod so we'll see what that adds to the mod. The numerous car upgrades like in the original mod would also be a nice thing to have. | |
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Paul Velasco Experienced Driver
Number of posts : 260 Age : 63 Location : Berlin Registration date : 2020-01-01
| Subject: Re: Round 3 - Kyalami [Mar. 1st] Mon 24 Feb 2020 - 19:03 | |
| Maybe you can remove my time at the top of the standings because it was set in different conditions and different server | |
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Frank Verplanken League Owner
Number of posts : 13574 Age : 49 Location : Nice, France Registration date : 2008-09-08
| Subject: Re: Round 3 - Kyalami [Mar. 1st] Mon 24 Feb 2020 - 19:44 | |
| Done | |
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Paul Velasco Experienced Driver
Number of posts : 260 Age : 63 Location : Berlin Registration date : 2020-01-01
| Subject: Re: Round 3 - Kyalami [Mar. 1st] Mon 24 Feb 2020 - 20:15 | |
| Merci. It seems that not much difference in track... | |
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Vaclav Burda Rookie
Number of posts : 6 Age : 44 Location : Czech Republic Registration date : 2019-05-27
| Subject: Re: Round 3 - Kyalami [Mar. 1st] Mon 24 Feb 2020 - 20:34 | |
| Confirmation | |
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Tomáš Matoušek Rookie
Number of posts : 14 Age : 41 Location : Czech Republic Registration date : 2016-11-15
| Subject: Re: Round 3 - Kyalami [Mar. 1st] Wed 26 Feb 2020 - 15:45 | |
| I am not able to participate in the qualification but I should be able to start the race. | |
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Mick Chapman Pro Driver
Number of posts : 695 Age : 58 Location : Wales/Pays de Galles Registration date : 2014-01-04
| Subject: Re: Round 3 - Kyalami [Mar. 1st] Sat 29 Feb 2020 - 3:43 | |
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Gio Nuvoli Rookie
Number of posts : 28 Age : 62 Location : Italy Registration date : 2020-01-26
| Subject: Attending Sat 29 Feb 2020 - 10:42 | |
| Yep, will be on track, maybe at the very last moment but i will. The Ensign will not be left to gather dust, cheers | |
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Dan Faas Club Driver
Number of posts : 58 Age : 33 Location : Wisconsin, USA Registration date : 2019-11-25
| Subject: Re: Round 3 - Kyalami [Mar. 1st] Sun 1 Mar 2020 - 3:10 | |
| Unfortunately, I had family come into town at the last moment so I will not be available for the race. | |
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