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Bruno Chacon
Alberto Iquino
Charlie Cone
Thiago Canola
Steve Parker
Yves Plaçais
Richard Coxon
Michael Drechsler
Jason Whited
David Sabre
Raymond Riddall
Greg DellaCella
Grant Riddall
François Remmen
Jason Fitch
Petr Hlavac
Dave Miller
Lukáš Vydra
Raul Jereb
Gérard Ryon
Austin Johnson
David Jaques
Juha Bos
Pascal Mikula
Jason White
Alberto Ibañez
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David Jaques
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David Jaques


Number of posts : 512
Age : 43
Location : Canada
Registration date : 2013-03-28

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PostSubject: Re: rFactor - 1971 Mission Bell 200 T/A   rFactor - 1971 Mission Bell 200 T/A - Page 3 Icon_minitimeTue 29 Jan 2019 - 1:39

Michael Drechsler wrote:
Yepp, that was it. Good thing you guys backed up the original files in the IMSA package :top:

getting the same .hdv mismatch and really would like to avoid re-installing the whole mod. what did you do exactly/where did you find the files? is it just the capri3100.hdv and engine files from the imsa74 update?

thanks,
dave
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Richard Coxon
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Richard Coxon


Number of posts : 16590
Age : 37
Location : Sheffield, England
Registration date : 2012-06-29

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PostSubject: Re: rFactor - 1971 Mission Bell 200 T/A   rFactor - 1971 Mission Bell 200 T/A - Page 3 Icon_minitimeTue 29 Jan 2019 - 10:03

If you download the IMSA update, I'm sure it has the original files in it. You can just overwrite then.
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Alberto Ibañez
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Alberto Ibañez


Number of posts : 16788
Age : 121
Location : International Simracing Organisation
Registration date : 2010-09-17

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PostSubject: Re: rFactor - 1971 Mission Bell 200 T/A   rFactor - 1971 Mission Bell 200 T/A - Page 3 Icon_minitimeTue 29 Jan 2019 - 10:08

Is the link for that still valid? Likely leads to the old FTP.

I can provide the files later when at home, if someone needs them.
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Richard Coxon
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Richard Coxon


Number of posts : 16590
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Location : Sheffield, England
Registration date : 2012-06-29

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PostSubject: Re: rFactor - 1971 Mission Bell 200 T/A   rFactor - 1971 Mission Bell 200 T/A - Page 3 Icon_minitimeTue 29 Jan 2019 - 10:16

--> LINK <--
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Jason Whited
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Jason Whited


Number of posts : 581
Age : 40
Location : Virginia, USA
Registration date : 2017-03-08

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PostSubject: Re: rFactor - 1971 Mission Bell 200 T/A   rFactor - 1971 Mission Bell 200 T/A - Page 3 Icon_minitimeTue 29 Jan 2019 - 18:34

Since these are .exe files, before I pull the trigger on this install, I have a question...(this is one mod I've eyeballed 100 times but never installed)

Is it a fact that I need GTL before I install this?
I see a Steam version of that sim, and will grab it up if necessary, just don't want to purchase if it's not necessary, but I do think it may be, so am asking.

:hello:
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Richard Coxon
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Richard Coxon


Number of posts : 16590
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PostSubject: Re: rFactor - 1971 Mission Bell 200 T/A   rFactor - 1971 Mission Bell 200 T/A - Page 3 Icon_minitimeTue 29 Jan 2019 - 18:36

We can provide you with an ISO that you can mount if need be. :top:
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David Jaques
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David Jaques


Number of posts : 512
Age : 43
Location : Canada
Registration date : 2013-03-28

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PostSubject: Re: rFactor - 1971 Mission Bell 200 T/A   rFactor - 1971 Mission Bell 200 T/A - Page 3 Icon_minitimeThu 31 Jan 2019 - 19:40

Richard Coxon wrote:
--> LINK <--

thank you richard, this is exactly what i was missing! for anyone else that had this mod already installed but is getting a car.hdv mismatch this might be what you need instead of a fresh download.

best,
dave
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Michael Drechsler
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Michael Drechsler


Number of posts : 671
Age : 46
Location : Aachen, Germany
Registration date : 2016-03-11

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PostSubject: Re: rFactor - 1971 Mission Bell 200 T/A   rFactor - 1971 Mission Bell 200 T/A - Page 3 Icon_minitimeFri 1 Feb 2019 - 13:21

Okay, you may find it ridiculous I bring that up, but un the lowest LOD setting, the track is missing at least the start/finish timing flag. Clock doesnt start to run...


...wouldn't be an issue if my graphic card didn't blow up on Tuesday and I wouldn't have to divert to onboard graphics...
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Thiago Canola
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Thiago Canola


Number of posts : 204
Age : 43
Location : USA
Registration date : 2017-01-23

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PostSubject: Re: rFactor - 1971 Mission Bell 200 T/A   rFactor - 1971 Mission Bell 200 T/A - Page 3 Icon_minitimeFri 1 Feb 2019 - 18:02

Hey guys, I can't make it.

The Mustang 69 #15 is free.

Have fun!!
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Brian Janik
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PostSubject: Re: rFactor - 1971 Mission Bell 200 T/A   rFactor - 1971 Mission Bell 200 T/A - Page 3 Icon_minitimeFri 1 Feb 2019 - 18:02

#15 please
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Alberto Ibañez
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Alberto Ibañez


Number of posts : 16788
Age : 121
Location : International Simracing Organisation
Registration date : 2010-09-17

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PostSubject: Re: rFactor - 1971 Mission Bell 200 T/A   rFactor - 1971 Mission Bell 200 T/A - Page 3 Icon_minitimeFri 1 Feb 2019 - 19:22

Michael Drechsler wrote:
Okay, you may find it ridiculous I bring that up, but un the lowest LOD setting, the track is missing at least the start/finish timing flag. Clock doesnt start to run...


...wouldn't be an issue if my graphic card didn't blow up on Tuesday and I wouldn't have to divert to onboard graphics...

You can use the clock in the HUD, when it starts after you are in the grid and the synchronization has ended the race is on.
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Michael Drechsler
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Michael Drechsler


Number of posts : 671
Age : 46
Location : Aachen, Germany
Registration date : 2016-03-11

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Well, I never look at the starting lights in the grid, but check the watch, but I doubt it'll record any laps when there are no timing flags...


...I'll test where I'll end up frameratewise with a full grid, later Smile
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Raul Jereb
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Raul Jereb


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Location : Rijeka, Croatia
Registration date : 2013-05-28

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PostSubject: Re: rFactor - 1971 Mission Bell 200 T/A   rFactor - 1971 Mission Bell 200 T/A - Page 3 Icon_minitimeSat 2 Feb 2019 - 15:55

I have a diferential setup question.

There are to paramteres available on this cars: power and coast.
I think I understand power and Im using this adjustment quite a lot (through other mods whan available). The bigger the value, more turning is resulting with more power input.
What confuses me is Coast value.. I think I read somewhere sometimes that is opposite of power, the lower the value, more turning is resulting while substracting power.. but, I have to admit, Im not sure if this is correct. I just cant see this car reaction with changing this parameter... so, clarifying this would help me.

and another question regarding track: are those tyres in the esses going to remain just for visual impresion, or, at some point, you plan to switch them to real barriers..

thanks
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Jason Fitch
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Jason Fitch


Number of posts : 664
Age : 45
Location : Frankfort, IN
Registration date : 2015-04-18

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PostSubject: Re: rFactor - 1971 Mission Bell 200 T/A   rFactor - 1971 Mission Bell 200 T/A - Page 3 Icon_minitimeSat 2 Feb 2019 - 16:31


I was always told the best way to adjust Power and Coast was to Fully Lock them both, i.e. 100% and start reducing it in 25% increments until you like it.

In a Nutshell, Power is when you're on the Throttle and Coast is when you're off the Throttle.

High Power setting = More oversteer. Lower Power means More Understeer.

Coast is the exact opposite.

High Coast = More Understeer, Lower Coast = More Oversteer.

Personally, one would think with these car you would want to err towards understeer. These things have lots of power and not enough Tire at Power on, and the cars are heavy steel beasts and sheer momentum tends to make them want to oversteer at Turn in. So understeer all around is where I'd start and then Loosen the car up from there.


As for the tires, I've always hated the versions of this track that used those tires as a barrier, that's not what they were for. They were a demarcation to show the edge of the track, if you're in a Mini, then yeah they are a barrier, but if you're in one of these Trans-Am cars, they're more like a rumble strip, and if you're Parnelli Jones they're a turning aid.
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Alberto Ibañez
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Alberto Ibañez


Number of posts : 16788
Age : 121
Location : International Simracing Organisation
Registration date : 2010-09-17

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PostSubject: Re: rFactor - 1971 Mission Bell 200 T/A   rFactor - 1971 Mission Bell 200 T/A - Page 3 Icon_minitimeSat 2 Feb 2019 - 16:47

To what Jason said I just add:

Coast is turn-in, when you are off throttle and turn into the corner. If the lock is high the car understeers more, it the lock is low the rear is free and might swing around when you force the car into the corner.

Power is turn out, when you are on the throttle coming out of the corner a low lock setting will let the inside unloaded wheel spin more (And waste power there in smoke and burnt rubber) instead of sending that powe to the exterior loaded wheel. But if you send too much, then obviously that wheel will bite and turn the car around causing power oversteer at corner exit.

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Petr Hlavac
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Petr Hlavac


Number of posts : 873
Age : 41
Location : Brno, Czech Republic
Registration date : 2015-01-11

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PostSubject: Re: rFactor - 1971 Mission Bell 200 T/A   rFactor - 1971 Mission Bell 200 T/A - Page 3 Icon_minitimeSat 2 Feb 2019 - 18:15

You need to start early, two months seems to be just fine  Wink #Practicing at Riverside

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Michal Janak
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Michal Janak


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Location : Brno, Czech Republic
Registration date : 2010-03-25

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Petr Hlavac wrote:
You need to start early, two months seems to be just fine  Wink #Practicing at Riverside

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LOL

next champion :conduit:
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Lukáš Vydra
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Lukáš Vydra


Number of posts : 317
Age : 31
Location : Czech Republic
Registration date : 2018-10-29

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Petr Hlavac wrote:
You need to start early, two months seems to be just fine  Wink
In twenty or so years, we'll be ready to welcome another Hlavac on HSO :banane:
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Alberto Ibañez
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Alberto Ibañez


Number of posts : 16788
Age : 121
Location : International Simracing Organisation
Registration date : 2010-09-17

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PostSubject: Re: rFactor - 1971 Mission Bell 200 T/A   rFactor - 1971 Mission Bell 200 T/A - Page 3 Icon_minitimeSat 2 Feb 2019 - 18:58

Why did you wait so much Petr, he's obviously keen on it. He'll never forgive you for not having him race earlier, what an opportunity wasted lol!
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Austin Johnson
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Austin Johnson


Number of posts : 814
Age : 34
Location : Northern California
Registration date : 2013-01-14

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PostSubject: Re: rFactor - 1971 Mission Bell 200 T/A   rFactor - 1971 Mission Bell 200 T/A - Page 3 Icon_minitimeSat 2 Feb 2019 - 20:08

Does anyone know if its possible to turn off the normal rearview mirror and have only the Virtual?
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Mick Chapman
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Mick Chapman


Number of posts : 695
Age : 58
Location : Wales/Pays de Galles
Registration date : 2014-01-04

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PostSubject: Re: rFactor - 1971 Mission Bell 200 T/A   rFactor - 1971 Mission Bell 200 T/A - Page 3 Icon_minitimeSun 3 Feb 2019 - 8:58

Austin Johnson wrote:
Does anyone know if its possible  to turn off the normal rearview mirror and have only the Virtual?


The nearest I could find......

PLR>Graphics.....

Rearview="2" // 0=Off, 1=In-car only, 2=Center and Side, 3=Center only, 4=Side only (virtual mirrors only, in-car mirrors are on/off)

So, it seems with car mirrors off, you are only left with side virtual mirrors.

What do you need mirrors for? Think about it....don't let modesty blur your answer. Wink

Post-Its? Smile


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Dave Miller
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Dave Miller


Number of posts : 301
Location : England
Registration date : 2012-07-10

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PostSubject: Re: rFactor - 1971 Mission Bell 200 T/A   rFactor - 1971 Mission Bell 200 T/A - Page 3 Icon_minitimeSun 3 Feb 2019 - 17:24

Just been onto the server, found that the #110 Barracuda isn't available to select

there's only a #42 or #48

to save hassle seeing as the #42 isn't on the entry list, should I just use the #42 car instead?
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Petr Hlavac
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Petr Hlavac


Number of posts : 873
Age : 41
Location : Brno, Czech Republic
Registration date : 2015-01-11

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Anybody else thinks that the command to start this race should be AHOY!? :hihi:
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Alberto Ibañez
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Alberto Ibañez


Number of posts : 16788
Age : 121
Location : International Simracing Organisation
Registration date : 2010-09-17

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Dave Miller wrote:
Just been onto the server, found that the #110 Barracuda isn't available to select

there's only a #42 or #48

to save hassle seeing as the #42 isn't on the entry list, should I just use the #42 car instead?


Wait until we have a look at it, the database is prepared with 110 and without 42, we don't want the results messed up in the web later.
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Alberto Ibañez
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Alberto Ibañez


Number of posts : 16788
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PostSubject: Re: rFactor - 1971 Mission Bell 200 T/A   rFactor - 1971 Mission Bell 200 T/A - Page 3 Icon_minitimeSun 3 Feb 2019 - 18:22

OK 110 is not included in the T/A filters, we will add the Plymouth Cuda as allowed car class and then you should be able to access the server. Meanwhile you can practice online in #42 if you want, but for official practice, qualy and race please use only numer 110.
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