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Yves Plaçais
Dana Schurer
Brian Janik
Mick Chapman
Pascal Kalide
Richard Wilks
Christian Dauger
Gabriel Sterr
Alberto Ibañez
Adam Hackman
Gérard Ryon
Konstantin Zubov
Jan Kowalski
Bruno Chacon
Raymond Riddall
Jason Whited
Raul Jereb
Steve Parker
Petr Hlavac
Martin Lacina
Jason Fitch
Michael Drechsler
David Sabre
Grant Riddall
David Jundt
Timo Vermeersch
Juha Bos
Pascal Mikula
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David Jundt wrote:
Jan Kowalski wrote:
okay the Jundt rule bounce , hadn´t it in mind

Thanks for having to bring it up, guess it's a really funny joke  Neutral


Guess we''d rather have empty cars in some circumstances then.

Come on David, you have a better sense of humor than that, i would love to have a "Wilks Rule" somewhere too Razz

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Pascal Kalide
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Pascal Kalide


Number of posts : 20
Age : 22
Location : Germany
Registration date : 2017-01-26

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Michael Drechsler
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Location : Aachen, Germany
Registration date : 2016-03-11

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Okay, I've got the same problem as in St. Jovite: almost zero feedback from the steering. FFB is working, I do have forces, and it does give me the expected feedback if the wheels start to lean on their shoulders, but from there, I can't make out any differences in forces, be it understeer, oversteer, snap oversteer, locked wheels. All the same indistinguishable sludge.

Any ideas?

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Steve Parker
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Steve Parker


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Registration date : 2008-12-22

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Michael Drechsler wrote:
Okay, I've got the same problem as in St. Jovite: almost zero feedback from the steering. FFB is working, I do have forces, and it does give me the expected feedback if the wheels start to lean on their shoulders, but from there, I can't make out any differences in forces, be it understeer, oversteer, snap oversteer, locked wheels. All the same indistinguishable sludge.

Any ideas?

Not sure m8,but i had to set FFB to medium because it nearly tore my arms off lol! ,maybe play about with settings in your wheel software.

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Mick Chapman
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Mick Chapman


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Location : Wales/Pays de Galles
Registration date : 2014-01-04

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Brian Janik
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Location : Detroit, MI
Registration date : 2014-01-19

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Michael Drechsler wrote:
Okay, I've got the same problem as in St. Jovite: almost zero feedback from the steering. FFB is working, I do have forces, and it does give me the expected feedback if the wheels start to lean on their shoulders, but from there, I can't make out any differences in forces, be it understeer, oversteer, snap oversteer, locked wheels. All the same indistinguishable sludge.

Any ideas?

For me in game
Strength 100
Effects Low
Steering rate 50
Axis 50

RealFeel
MaxForceAtSteeringRack=3500.00 0r less. High number to scale back ffb until the grip rises. 3500 Based on steering arm force of this mod. Sounds like yours too low, maxing out ffb before anything actually happens.

Player controller setting (dont rememememember default or what? may need to tune mine also...)
FFB steer vibe freq mult="0.25000" // Controls frequency of steering vibration. Recommended: 0.5 to 1.0, 0.0 disables steering vibration.
FFB steer vibe zero magnitude="0.06500" // Magnitude of steering vibration at 0mph (reference point).
FFB steer vibe slope="0.01000" // Slope of line defining magnitude as a function of frequency (used with FFB steer vibe zero magnitude).
FFB steer vibe wave type="0" // Type of wave to use for vibe: 0=Sine, 1=Square, 2=Triangle, 3=Sawtooth up, 4=Sawtooth down.
FFB steer force prediction="0.00100" // Time into the future that force is predicted, to help counteract wheel latency (0.0 to disable)
FFB steer force max change="100.00000" // Maximum change per second based on current difference between calculated and applied force, to help avoid jerky behavior (values under 15 or so should reduce jerkiness, 100 disables)
FFB steer force neutral range="0.00000" // Max distance from center "neutral force" location where forces are reduced to help avoid oscillation (0.0 to disable)
FFB steer force neutral function="0.00000" // Function to apply near neutral force location, in order to tune out FFB "deadzone" but keeping oscillations in check: 0.0=original, 1.0=new
FFB steer force exponent="0.75000" // Steering force output "sensitivity".  Range 0.0 to infinity.  0.0 to 1.0 = higher sensitivity, greater than 1.0 = lower sensitivity.
FFB steer force input max="-11500.00000" // Recommended: 11500 (-11500 if controller pulls in the wrong direction).
FFB steer force output max="2.00000" // Maximum force output of steering force, recommendation 0.8 to 2.0
FFB steer force grip function="0.61000" // Range 0.0 to 1.0 (previous hardcoded value was 1.0) - lower values will make steering force decrease LATER as front tire grip is lost - try 0.3
FFB steer force grip weight="0.76000" // Range 0.0 to 1.0, recommended: 0.4 to 0.9.  How much weight is given to tire grip when calculating steering force.
FFB steer force grip factor="0.58000" // Range 0.0 to 1.0, recommended: 0.2 to 0.6 (previously hardcoded to 0.4).  How much of a factor the front wheel grip is on the steering weight.
FFB steer front grip fract="0.00000" // Range 0.0 to 1.0 (previous hardcoded value was 0.0), additional effect of front grip loss on steering force
FFB steer update threshold="0.00000"

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Michael Drechsler
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Location : Aachen, Germany
Registration date : 2016-03-11

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Thank you, Mick and Brian, I'm going to try that stuff later. Smile

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Dana Schurer
Experienced Driver
Dana Schurer


Number of posts : 357
Age : 35
Location : Portland, OR, USA
Registration date : 2015-04-19

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Absent.
:smil20:

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Yves Plaçais
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Yves Plaçais


Number of posts : 1981
Age : 61
Location : Angers, France.
Registration date : 2008-12-18

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:conduit: pour Yves +  :conduit:  pour Jean-Marie

:flag: en espérant qu'il n'y aura pas trop d'embouteillages à la sortie de la journée test des 24 heures du Mans ! :flag:

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Jukka Närhi
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Jukka Närhi


Number of posts : 1811
Age : 36
Location : Finland
Registration date : 2009-12-17

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Absent.
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Michael Drechsler
Pro Driver
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Number of posts : 671
Age : 44
Location : Aachen, Germany
Registration date : 2016-03-11

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You are aware you're basically doomed once you run into a gravel pit?

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Jason Whited
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Jason Whited


Number of posts : 581
Age : 38
Location : Virginia, USA
Registration date : 2017-03-08

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Michael Drechsler wrote:
You are aware you're basically doomed once you run into a gravel pit?

This is why you never run into the gravel pit geek

...barring that, since I have yet to get out of a pit without destroying the engine, I've mapped a key for the auto clutch on keyboard. Activate the auto clutch, the car will crawl out.

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Michael Drechsler
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Michael Drechsler


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As I'm running on just two pedals, autoclutch is activated anyways. The issue is more that the gravel pit does not allow for any steering input at all. If you happen to run into one in the right angle, you can slide along the next guardrail until you're on the next stretch of grass. If you run into the gravel pit with an obtuse angle to the next guardrail, you're done.


Despite all efforts to help me with my steering feedback, I still happen to have little clue about what's going on. In other words, I'm looking at a pretty short race on sunday.

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Jason Whited
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Jason Whited


Number of posts : 581
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Location : Virginia, USA
Registration date : 2017-03-08

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Michael Drechsler wrote:
As I'm running on just two pedals, autoclutch is activated anyways. The issue is more that the gravel pit does not allow for any steering input at all. If you happen to run into one in the right angle, you can slide along the next guardrail until you're on the next stretch of grass. If you run into the gravel pit with an obtuse angle to the next guardrail, you're done.


Despite all efforts to help me with my steering feedback, I still happen to have little clue about what's going on. In other words, I'm looking at a pretty short race on sunday.

Yes, I understand what you are saying. Same here in regards to getting pulled to the wall by the gravel pits.
:smil20: Just hoping to stay out of them myself. Hope you can too :yaa:


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Brian Janik
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Registration date : 2014-01-19

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:conduit: :conduit: :conduit:
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David Jaques
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David Jaques


Number of posts : 512
Age : 41
Location : Canada
Registration date : 2013-03-28

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#55 m8e please (i think i am eligible to run this car)

dave

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Jason White
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Jason White


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Registration date : 2011-12-25

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David Jaques wrote:
#55 m8e please (i think i am eligible to run this car)

Yes :top:

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Jan Kowalski
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Filippo Marazzi
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Location : Varese, Italy
Registration date : 2016-11-05

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absent, sorry  Crying or Very sad

on May 21 I had a surgery intervention at my right knee,
I wish I could drive but I don't feel good enough.

I inform you at the last second because my hope was to join the race.

I'll watch you on broadcast  :clap:

:hello:

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Jonatan Acerclinth
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The Broadcast for this event has been created and can be found here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxe8bwK6Qo4


I hope you'll enjoy the show :drink:

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if you are bored entering a corner, you aren't pushing enough,
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Sry for the late notice, little Al will be there at the race. Entry list updated.

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Jason White
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Server is now set for today's race.

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Pascal Mikula
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Registration date : 2016-01-04

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Well that's my race done!

Had some good battles, namely with Juha and...Juha and..Juha and Adam Hackman.
In the end, we both, Adam and I, lost it into the last corner. He went into the gravel trap of death, I didn't.
"Whoa, close", I thought, as I slammed the car into first gear, waiting for the smoke to clear so I could go again - but it seemed some Janik guy in a blue McLaren didn't see what was behind the smoke and T-boned me as hard as one could be t-boned.  :urgence:

So, one wheel missing, three still attached and 3/4 of the car in the gravel trap - I tried to get out and did so as carefully as possible, letting Jundt and others by before rejoining on three wheels. I'm glad it happened right before the pits, but my pit crew told me that there was nothing they could do, so I called it a day.

Well...Shit happens but that was just.. sad that I couldn't actually rejoin.

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