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Jason White
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Jason White


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PostSubject: Re: 1988 CART PPG Indy Car World Series - Schedule   1988 CART PPG Indy Car World Series - Schedule - Page 3 Icon_minitimeMon 29 May 2017 - 0:49

Jason White wrote:
Jason White wrote:
The CART 1988 schedule has been updated:

Round 3 is now the Milwaukee 200; still on June 11th, 2017 (thread goes up June 4th)

Round 4 is now the Indy 500, which will be on June 18th, 2017 (thread goes up June 11th)

If this new Indy 500 date is going to cause problems for any other drivers, not just David, then now would be the time to speak up.

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Bob Holada
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I also will be unable to make it on June 18th, because of a scheduling conflict. And that doesn't bother me much at all. I couldn't finish the first lap at todays test race. Not at all sure why I ended in the wall. Though I was a little slow in getting up to speed. I had added a lot of wing because the track felt a bit narrow.

Could I give my ride for this one race to a HSO regular who wasn't able to qualify?

BoB Holada
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Jason White
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The first to get a crack at vacant spots are the reserve drivers.
If four or more drivers can't make the race, we will consider moving the event to a later date.
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Bob Holada
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Bob Holada


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Jason White wrote:
The first to get a crack at vacant spots are the reserve drivers.
If four or more drivers can't make the race, we will consider moving the event to a later date.

I understand that, but do they have to race the POS that wasn't fast enough to make it into the field?
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Jason White
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The car they qualified is the car they run.
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Jason White
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Jason White wrote:
Jason White wrote:
The CART 1988 schedule has been updated:

Round 3 is now the Milwaukee 200; still on June 11th, 2017 (thread goes up June 4th)

Round 4 is now the Indy 500, which will be on June 18th, 2017 (thread goes up June 11th)

If this new Indy 500 date is going to cause problems for any other drivers, not just David, then now would be the time to speak up.
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Steven Klein
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PostSubject: Re: 1988 CART PPG Indy Car World Series - Schedule   1988 CART PPG Indy Car World Series - Schedule - Page 3 Icon_minitimeMon 29 May 2017 - 20:34

oh noooo.... at the indy 500 I have vacation but I am at a medieval camp at this weekend 600km away....nooooo, why ?

lol! lol!
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Jason White
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Steven Klein wrote:
oh noooo.... at the indy 500 I have vacation but I am at a medieval camp at this weekend 600km away....nooooo, why ?

lol! lol!

Steven, you didn't qualify for the race anyway.
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Steven Klein
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true. But you always hope that there could be a car but, thanks.... less disappointment yet ;-)

I always hope for the "off" cars....
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Jason White
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There would need to be four absences for a first come first serve opportunity in the 500. That's a pretty unlikely scenario.
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Jason Fitch
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That's Father's Day,


Doubtful I'd be able to make it.
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Jason White
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Jason White


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We need firm yeses or nos
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David Jundt
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Another question that cropped up for me just now: Why aren't we racing Milwaukee after Indy like the original schedule? Do we still need to test things?
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Jason White
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Because the June 11th date was also an issue for some.
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David Jundt
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Is there some holiday I don't know about? scratch

Maybe I should've brought up Le Mans earlier, to possibly avoid one of the weekends with one of the crown jewels.
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Jason White
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David Jundt wrote:
Is there some holiday I don't know about? scratch

Maybe I should've brought up Le Mans earlier, to possibly avoid one of the weekends with one of the crown jewels.

There is no way we can cover every possible contingency.
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Jason Fitch
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No, I can't make it the 18th.


Can I ask a dumb question? Why are we fretting over a new date like this and "trying to squeeze it into the schedule somewhere" There is an an ENTIRE Month that has NO RACES in it......Why can't we run it in August?

I realize it's a vacation month for all the series, but you guys ran races all through July last year and it was the "open month"

It just seems to me that everyone is hand wringing and trying to find a "suitable" date "somewhere" in the schedule, meanwhile there is a gaping hole that everyone is ignoring.
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Jari Bruppacher
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Jason Fitch wrote:
No, I can't make it the 18th.


Can I ask a dumb question? Why are we fretting over a new date like this and "trying to squeeze it into the schedule somewhere" There is an an ENTIRE Month that has NO RACES in it......Why can't we run it in August?

I realize it's a vacation month for all the series, but you guys ran races all through July last year and it was the "open month"

It just seems to me that everyone is hand wringing and trying to find a "suitable" date "somewhere" in the schedule, meanwhile there is a gaping hole that everyone is ignoring.

I am pretty sure August is a month where lots of people are on holidays? At least I know I will be at least part of it. To me racing during summer vacation really does not sound like the best idea.
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Richard Coxon
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We haven't ignored it Jason, as Jari said, we have that break because that is when most people go away for vacations. So there is potential it will cause just as many absentees.
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Scott Urick
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Scott Urick


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Jason White wrote:
There would need to be four absences for a first come first serve opportunity in the 500. That's a pretty unlikely scenario.

I dunno. We have three confirmed out already. Which means the three alternates are already in the field.

Does that mean that we can (at least provisionally) request a car as soon as the next "no show" is posted? Can we post now, as an alternate? Or must we wait until the race re-announcement?

I don't want to aggravate anyone. I just want to be sure I have this straight, as I'm sure I'm not the only vulture circling.
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Which is getting more confusing as Jason said if 4+ are missing, re-schedule COULD also be on the cards. So if such thing would happen, both re-schedule or alternates/reserves could happen.

I also do know that people usually go away and do other things over the summer.


Well, I just didn't expect WEC would be moved instead(why not just put Indy on the 16th?) Sad

For me, it's just a difference between knowing long beforehand when you can't race and plan accordingly, and a change on rather short notice after getting to grips with the track, taking part in a very long and unique qualifying session, an evening with the status of a test race plus taking part in an actual test to try a new track and practice the starting procedure.

"David' moaning again" - Well, I could have done other things on three different evenings if I had known it would be for nothing, just saying Razz

I've done all I should(especially taking part in the track test as I wanted to make sure I do everything right and spend more time sharing the track with other cars to work on racecraft), so naturally it's gonna be a hughe blow if I am now going to miss out on the fun :smil20:


ANYWAY. It would be nice if most participants would post soon about whether or not they can race on that date so I can bury my chances of taking part early.


/No harm intended, seriously
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Mike Becnel
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There comes a point when the questions stop and you accept management's decision regardless of your continued opinion. I can assure you pros and cons are always discussed by the admins. I am sure the timing of the weekend was a known variable. The decision has been made. If needed, suck it up.
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The Michigan 500 thread will go up after the Spa race concludes this evening.
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Michael Drechsler
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Thought its fair to give you guys a shout in time: I won't participate in the Toronto round, because I'll be in Italy for my well-deserved vacation. Your chance for a one-off in the probably best ride on the grid Smile
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