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 Round 5 - Milwaukee (Jun 12th)

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Tyler Greene
Trevor Greene
Oyvind Andersen
Jan Kowalski
Ludovic Tiengou
Jonatan Acerclinth
Raul Jereb
Jukka Närhi
Lee Simpson
Peter Blom
Petr Hlavac
James Knowles
Alberto Ibañez
Scott Urick
Pascal Mikula
Jason Fitch
Mike Becnel
David Sabre
Michal Janak
Juha Bos
Bob Holada
Michael Drechsler
Richard Coxon
Jacob Fredriksson
Bob Wilson
Dana Schurer
Jason White
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Michael Drechsler
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Michael Drechsler


Number of posts : 671
Age : 44
Location : Aachen, Germany
Registration date : 2016-03-11

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That's a bad idea. My Trenton setup was sh... not good Wink
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Bob Holada
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Bob Holada


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Age : 72
Location : Fort Wayne, Indiana
Registration date : 2016-05-17

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Bob Wilson wrote:
Bob Wilson wrote:
Jason White wrote:
Jonatan Acerclinth wrote:
I am certain Jason White might be able to help you out with the setup/driving side of things Bob, he helped me quite a bit with improving at Oval driving (I'm still not fast but at least consistent). 

I would also ask the advice of people running similar equipment Wink


I have a setup for the #34 Eagle for Milwaukee.  I can email it to you.

I got Bob's email address...I sent three setups to him.  Should be good baseline for him. Very Happy

Thanks for the setups Bob. I was even able to load an access them with out crying for help.

From here I think I just need more seat time.
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Bob Wilson
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Bob Wilson


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Location : Milwaukee, Wisconsin
Registration date : 2016-03-15

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BoB Holada wrote:
Bob Wilson wrote:
Bob Wilson wrote:
Jason White wrote:
Jonatan Acerclinth wrote:
I am certain Jason White might be able to help you out with the setup/driving side of things Bob, he helped me quite a bit with improving at Oval driving (I'm still not fast but at least consistent). 

I would also ask the advice of people running similar equipment Wink


I have a setup for the #34 Eagle for Milwaukee.  I can email it to you.

I got Bob's email address...I sent three setups to him.  Should be good baseline for him. Very Happy

Thanks for the setups Bob.  I was even able to load an access them with out crying for help.

From here I think I just need more seat time.

Glad to hear that...Practice and get comfortable with your car. Very Happy
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James Knowles
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James Knowles


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Please Jason

#24 Steve Krisiloff | Kingfish 73-Offy FI


:D

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Jason White
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Jason White


Number of posts : 14725
Age : 45
Location : Ferndale, MI USA
Registration date : 2011-12-25

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James Knowles wrote:
Please Jason

#24 Steve Krisiloff |  Kingfish 73-Offy FI


:D

Ok

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Jason White
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Jason White


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We are issuing this broadcast patch for Sunday's race; it corrects issues with the dark race groove we have been seeing during practice; this patch will make the broadcast image look better.  It is not a mandatory patch for the drivers, but we are making it available to everyone Wink  It will cause no mismatches online.

--> DOWNLOAD BROADCAST PATCH <--

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Trevor Greene
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Registration date : 2012-06-05

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Im in
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Tyler Greene
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Location : Detroit, MI
Registration date : 2015-04-25

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In! :conduit:
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Ludovic Tiengou
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Ludovic Tiengou


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Location : Grenoble far away from Brittany, France
Registration date : 2008-12-12

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Alberto Ibañez wrote:
But I believe at least Ludo should be happy here, as this track will suit his Chevy Eagle quite well Smile

Well I'm not in fact. Got a serious issue with a very touchy car in corner exit. My Trenton set has the same issue and I never found the solution. Bis repetita here scratch. I'm in high 27 and I'm pretty sure I could be in low 27. But I don't understand where the problems are (well a part is between the seat and the wheel). Whatever thing i touch on the set I don't see any improvment.


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Alberto Ibañez
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Alberto Ibañez


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Location : International Simracing Organisation
Registration date : 2010-09-17

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Reduce stagger, increase rear camber and add some rear rebound.

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Ludovic Tiengou
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Ludovic Tiengou


Number of posts : 2986
Age : 54
Location : Grenoble far away from Brittany, France
Registration date : 2008-12-12

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Thanks Alberto:chinois: .
But I was wrong about the issue with the car. Don't remember who said that on oval it's easy to confound over and understeering. That's what I've done. I was trying to correct oversteering on exit. But in fact it was a bit of understeering all along the corner. To correct it I was pulling at the wheel which then induced a huge oversteering on exit. :doh: So everything I was doing to correct was in fact the very same thing NOT to do :grrr: .

Done some change then. I was able to drive in 27.457 to a best 27.782 before. Not a great improvment in time but the car became much more easy to handle. Now I've to learn the track and to improve a bit the set.

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Alberto Ibañez
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Don't remember who said that on oval it's easy to confound over and understeering

I think that was me Wink When you charge into a corner too fast, the front tires slide and you tend to turn even more to the left to compensate. But then, when you have lost enough speed, the tires grip again, and find themselves pointing a lot into the corner - so you get instant oversteer.

The trick to a quick lap here is to setup the car with good traction and some understeer. You have to be very precise with the speed when entering the corner, what you want is that all around the central part of the turn the car is somehow "leaning on the front" pushing it mildly but not losing trajectory. It's as if you are on a rubber cushion at the front, if you go too slow you are not hovering on it, if you go to quick you slide one lane to the right. Then at turn exit you straighten the wheel quickly and add gas, exiting on a less curved path. Use references on the wall not just to brake but also to apply full throttle. It is very important that you have them and balance the full throttle around the marked point depending on what your car admits.

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Bob Wilson
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Bob Wilson


Number of posts : 180
Age : 84
Location : Milwaukee, Wisconsin
Registration date : 2016-03-15

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Alberto Ibañez wrote:
Reduce stagger, increase rear camber and add some rear rebound.

Left & Right Rear, or just Right Rear?

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Alberto Ibañez
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Alberto Ibañez


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All around, but bearing in mind that you should already have more on the left side.

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Bob Wilson
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Bob Wilson


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Alberto Ibañez wrote:
All around, but bearing in mind that you should already have more on the left side.

Thank you Alberto...my car is much more stable exiting the turns now...I won't break any speed records, but if I can get this Mongoose to finish...that would be a win for me. Smile
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Jukka Närhi
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Jukka Närhi


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I can't drive for shit here, the car's all over the place no matter what I do Sad
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Jason White
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Jason White


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Jukka Maattanen wrote:
I can't drive for shit here, the car's all over the place no matter what I do Sad

I'd get with some of the other Eagle 72 Offy drivers and see if they'll share a set.

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Raul Jereb
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Jukka Maattanen wrote:
I can't drive for shit here, the car's all over the place no matter what I do Sad

Ive put a setup on hso/setups... I forgot to state its Eagle72/Offy...
Im not the setup doctor, but Its most stable I managed to go, even though, I did not practiced a lot due to free time disaster lately...
At least itll be a example of what to avoid study study study study

please feedback me with improvements....

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Jukka Närhi
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Hey, thanks for all the help with the setup guys, will give 'em a go tomorrow :hello:
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Bob Wilson
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Bob Wilson


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Will Time Trials be on Youtube channel, or just the race?? Race at 2:00 p.m. CDT?
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Jason White
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Bob Wilson wrote:
Will Time Trials be on Youtube channel, or just the race??  Race at 2:00 p.m. CDT?

Broadcast will likely start at race time

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Michal Janak
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Michal Janak


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hmmm today can't get under 27,15 Rolling Eyes

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David Sabre
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Michal Janak wrote:
hmmm today can't get under 27,15 Rolling Eyes
I seem to get the same thing, the faster I try and go the slower my laptimes. scratch
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Jason White
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This is just a wild guess, but could it be the track temp related to time of day on the server?

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Bob Wilson
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Bob Wilson


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Alberto emailed me a SVM file and I can't get it to show up in my track folder??? Am I doing something wrong? I can open it with note pad...I copied most of the data on the SVM file onto a default setup, but something is not right...any suggestions/ Thank you.
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