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Richard Coxon
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PostSubject: Re: 1998 CART - Rules   1998 CART - Rules - Page 2 Icon_minitimeWed 21 Jan 2015 - 16:10

The going through the pit lane at 60 is more of a rule if there isn't a pit lane speed limit, It stops people charging into the pits to get rid of there penalty and maybe only loosing 5-10 seconds, Or some pit lanes even less.

I'm sure if you go through at the pit lane speed limit (73 as you mentioned) you will be OK Wink
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Alberto Ibañez
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PostSubject: Re: 1998 CART - Rules   1998 CART - Rules - Page 2 Icon_minitimeWed 21 Jan 2015 - 16:22

Simply using the speed limiter should do the trick, it will automatically be set to whatever limit there is.

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Lee Simpson
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PostSubject: Re: 1998 CART - Rules   1998 CART - Rules - Page 2 Icon_minitimeWed 21 Jan 2015 - 16:55

OK thanks. Rookie question.
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Frank Verplanken
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PostSubject: Re: 1998 CART - Rules   1998 CART - Rules - Page 2 Icon_minitimeWed 21 Jan 2015 - 17:03

It's true though that this particular sentence in our rules topics could have been formulated more clearly and can be the source of some misunderstanding and confusion. I'll try and find a better formulation Wink
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Martin Audran
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Martin Audran


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PostSubject: Re: 1998 CART - Rules   1998 CART - Rules - Page 2 Icon_minitimeThu 22 Jan 2015 - 23:00

I'll provide a new patch tomorrow with less yellow laps and a "new" track with a faster SC Wink
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Greg Hunt
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PostSubject: Re: 1998 CART - Rules   1998 CART - Rules - Page 2 Icon_minitimeSat 24 Jan 2015 - 15:06

sur oval lorsque la SC est sortie et que le message " pits ouverts " apparrait , as t on le droit de dépasser le, les pilotes qui sont devant vous lorsqu on est dans la voie de décélération d accès aux pits et eux encore sur l oval ?
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Martin Audran
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PostSubject: Re: 1998 CART - Rules   1998 CART - Rules - Page 2 Icon_minitimeSat 24 Jan 2015 - 19:54

@Greg: Non il faut garder le même rythme pour plusieurs raisons.
- ça ne te fera pas gagner de places (les seuls moyens de gagner des places sous yellow c'est soit de ne pas t’arrêter, soit de faire un arrêt au stand plus cours en ne changeant pas les pneus ou en mettant moins de carburant)
- tu risques d'avoir du mal à ralentir pour les pits si tu prend trop de vitesse avant, et donc risquer soit une pénalité pour vitesse excessive, soit de te prendre le mur à la suite d'un trop gros freinage :aie: )

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Martin Audran
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=> DOWNLOAD PATCH HSO 1.2 <=
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Greg Hunt
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PostSubject: Re: 1998 CART - Rules   1998 CART - Rules - Page 2 Icon_minitimeSat 24 Jan 2015 - 20:18

Martin Audran wrote:
@Greg: Non il faut garder le même rythme pour plusieurs raisons.
- ça ne te fera pas gagner de places (les seuls moyens de gagner des places sous yellow c'est soit de ne pas t’arrêter, soit de faire un arrêt au stand plus cours en ne changeant pas les pneus ou en mettant moins de carburant)
- tu risques d'avoir du mal à ralentir pour les pits si tu prend trop de vitesse avant, et donc risquer soit une pénalité pour vitesse excessive, soit de te prendre le mur à la suite d'un trop gros freinage :aie: )


ok merci pour le renseignement Smile
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Alberto Ibañez
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PostSubject: Re: 1998 CART - Rules   1998 CART - Rules - Page 2 Icon_minitimeTue 27 Jan 2015 - 16:30

It seems that the server does not allow the "Autolift" setting which these cars used in real life (And therefore has no penalty in the mod). Any chance we get it allowed? Makes life a bit easier for those of use less gifted in the driving area Smile
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Guillaume Siebert
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PostSubject: Re: 1998 CART - Rules   1998 CART - Rules - Page 2 Icon_minitimeTue 27 Jan 2015 - 16:46

I don't think these cars had "autolift", there was a mod read-me somewhere that said the realistic settings for this mod were Autolift OFF and Autoblip ON.
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PostSubject: Re: 1998 CART - Rules   1998 CART - Rules - Page 2 Icon_minitimeTue 27 Jan 2015 - 16:48

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The 1998 CART machines all had sequential gearboxes with an electronic ignition cut-off during gear shifts; therefore, for users that don’t run auto-clutch, the auto-lift aid found in the player’s .PLR file should be at 1, for a more realistic emulation of the real car’s gear shifting operation. Running auto-clutch means both auto-lift and auto-blip are on by default, so no .PLR adjustment is required.
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Guillaume Siebert
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PostSubject: Re: 1998 CART - Rules   1998 CART - Rules - Page 2 Icon_minitimeTue 27 Jan 2015 - 16:55

My bad then. Autolift would definitely make driving a lot easier then.

The last part is wrong though, I have always been using autoclutch and it doesn't enable autolift.
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Alberto Ibañez
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PostSubject: Re: 1998 CART - Rules   1998 CART - Rules - Page 2 Icon_minitimeTue 27 Jan 2015 - 16:55

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I don't think these cars had "autolift", there was a mod read-me somewhere that said the realistic settings for this mod were Autolift OFF and Autoblip ON.

JP beat me to that, yes they did have autolift because you can keep your foot down and shift, the engine not overreving during the unclutched phase because of that electronical ignition cut. The first cars that had that were the Penskes in 1993 as they moved to a sequential shifter. By 1994 it had evolved into a speed control using the same system to prevent exceeding mandated pit lane speed.

What they did NOT have is autoblip, which is instead performed in modern F1s and alike and also road cars (BMWs SMG, Porsche's Steptronic etc) by more sophisticated electronic management to do "heel and toe" when reducting gears.

In any case, I run autoclutch and the server overrides that and disables autolift.
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Martin Audran
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PostSubject: Re: 1998 CART - Rules   1998 CART - Rules - Page 2 Icon_minitimeTue 27 Jan 2015 - 17:09

Autolift is now on.
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Alberto Ibañez
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PostSubject: Re: 1998 CART - Rules   1998 CART - Rules - Page 2 Icon_minitimeTue 27 Jan 2015 - 17:12

Thanks Martin cheers Will be better on the two hours race to prevent accidents.
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PostSubject: Re: 1998 CART - Rules   1998 CART - Rules - Page 2 Icon_minitimeTue 27 Jan 2015 - 17:18

Alberto Ibañez wrote:
Will be better on the two hours race to prevent accidents.

Thanks Martin :bangry:
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Cyril Derkir
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PostSubject: Re: 1998 CART - Rules   1998 CART - Rules - Page 2 Icon_minitimeWed 28 Jan 2015 - 12:01

Martin Audran wrote:
Autolift is now on.
du coup on peut passer le G25 en mode séquentiel?
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Roberto Mello
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