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 Round 13 - Grande Premio de Portugal [Sept. 29]

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Ben Paulet
Jonatan Acerclinth
Alberto Ibañez
Samuli Leinonen
Teemu Toikka
Florkin Marc
Alessio Campigotto
Gérard Ryon
David Jundt
Jean-Marie Placais
Ruben Freitas
Philippe Martinelli
Anders Nilsson
Mike Becnel
Ben Warren
Greg Hunt
Patrick Marucco
Cyril Derkir
Yves Plaçais
James Knowles
Frank Verplanken
Martin Audran
Guillaume Siebert
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Greg Hunt
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Greg Hunt


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Registration date : 2010-03-25

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nice and clean lap :conduit: 
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James Knowles
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Age : 55
Location : USA
Registration date : 2012-04-16

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I tell you..there is something about the entry into curva VIP (below) that just makes my car spin nearly everytime...

I don't know if the road camber is odd, I don't know if I am attempting a gross violation of Newton's laws..

But it is unsettling..and bound to bite me at some point in todays race..

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Samuli Leinonen
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Samuli Leinonen


Number of posts : 181
Age : 46
Location : Helsinki
Registration date : 2012-12-18

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James Knowles wrote:
I tell you..there is something about the entry into curva VIP (below) that just makes my car spin nearly everytime...

I don't know if the road camber is odd, I don't know if I am attempting a gross violation of Newton's laws..

But it is unsettling..and bound to bite me at some point in todays race..

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Not sure with this track version but in some other versions and rf2 it does have nasty (negative?) camber. Try taking later apex.
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Jonatan Acerclinth
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Jonatan Acerclinth


Number of posts : 1837
Age : 31
Location : Gräv, Sweden
Registration date : 2012-12-10

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The corner has a tad bit of an negative camber but the way it jumps on you is what I think is the problem at this version of the track. :cowboy2: 

Just as you turn in (about in height with the beginning of the Cerb on the inside) you have a bit of a crest that unsettles your car and if you have allready began to turn in your rear end will loose all grip for a very short time but it is a long enough time to send you sideways and spinning. pale 

I solve it by being done with braking and sped down so I have the time to react in case the car decides to "kill" you :aie: 
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David Jundt
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David Jundt


Number of posts : 2647
Age : 35
Location : Binningen, Switzerland
Registration date : 2012-07-14

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Oh, right in the field with P11, that's gonna be a tough one.
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James Knowles
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James Knowles


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Jonathan and Samuli thanks..

Hope to get in good practice beforre the race...

Am I a fool to try hards in the front and mediums in the rear and do a no stop?
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Jonatan Acerclinth
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Jonatan Acerclinth


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Sorry, forgot to confirm. I'll be racing tonight :conduit: Very Happy 
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Greg Hunt
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Greg Hunt


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live tonight ?
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Ben Paulet
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Ben Paulet


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Location : Cagnes sur mer France
Registration date : 2009-07-29

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Nop pas de live, je ne peux pas être dispo ce soir. Désolé. :frank: 
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Greg Hunt
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Frank Labédan
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Frank Labédan


Number of posts : 1043
Age : 57
Location : france - Landes
Registration date : 2008-10-28

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Desolé mais absent ce soir et finalement pour le reste de la saison ...je n'arrive decidemment plus a trouver de temps pour rouler un minimum et le volant commence a avoir des toiles d'araignées .
Bonne course a tous et a un de ces jours .
un grand merci a Hso et Mr Gui et ses "alcoolytes" :champ: pour leur super boulot et leur devouement.
je reviendrais...
:hello:
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David Jundt
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David Jundt


Number of posts : 2647
Age : 35
Location : Binningen, Switzerland
Registration date : 2012-07-14

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Can we announce Greg as champion already? :hihi: 
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Greg Hunt
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Greg Hunt


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Registration date : 2010-03-25

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Frank Labédan wrote:
Desolé mais absent ce soir et finalement pour le reste de la saison ...je n'arrive decidemment plus a trouver de temps pour rouler un minimum et le volant commence a avoir des toiles d'araignées .
Bonne course a tous et a un de ces jours .
un grand merci a Hso et Mr Gui et ses "alcoolytes" :champ: pour leur super boulot et leur devouement.
je reviendrais...
:hello:

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Frank Labédan
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Frank Labédan


Number of posts : 1043
Age : 57
Location : france - Landes
Registration date : 2008-10-28

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:D  désolé Gregui de te laisser un peu seul dans le champ F1 ! ... Je reviendrais te "botter le cul" de temps en temps rassure toi Wink
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Mike Becnel
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Mike Becnel


Number of posts : 4741
Age : 56
Location : Sugar Land, TX, USA
Registration date : 2012-06-24

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Yea I blocked you Jonatan, the entire outside was open and no opponent was there. I also barely let off to give you time to let off before i broke as we were on the inside of the 1st turn in the race. Can't win it there. Tapped in the butt and into the wall lost tire. Game over. Well I guess I will go watch Lemans (AMLS) racing. :doh: 

Nice start off the line by the way.

By the way, can't win the race in the first %^^&ing turn. :grrr: :grrr: :grrr: :grrr: Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad

$%^& ^^&$ #*%&%^^ #*$&% #&%^%& #&%$^&%& #&$&^%&#$ %&%^%^@*$^ $&%^%&#&^$

Watched my replay, nowonder I lost traction and slowed, you bumped me three times before finally putting the turn one spatula on me! Are you nuts? This is not $%^&ing Nascar redneck racing!

Very glad 5th and 6th made it past us. That must have been an underwear killing moment back there.


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James Knowles
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James Knowles


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Age : 55
Location : USA
Registration date : 2012-04-16

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Wife got home early from weekend trip and reclaimed the 32 inch..and I had to drop down to the 17 inch just prior to the race..

Sad 

Learned you cant pump a qually set full of fuel and race with it, car felt like crap..

Spun,,,as I predicted..at Curva VIp, ripped the nose off at another curb.... then pranged the front right off at curve entry...

I got what I deserved...a dnf....

Guess I''ll go do some offline at the next venue...
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Patrick Marucco
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Patrick Marucco


Number of posts : 2399
Age : 68
Location : Joué les Tours
Registration date : 2008-12-18

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"connection lost" Sad 
Vraiment dommage car ma Williams etait bien ici et je pouvais viser les points vu l'epaisseur de la grille Crying or Very sad 
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Anders Nilsson
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Anders Nilsson


Number of posts : 182
Age : 56
Location : Sweden
Registration date : 2012-06-06

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That was fun as long it lasted Very Happy . THe Brabham is a better car than my old AGS but also much harder to drive . To little time in car, made me do two mistakes and one of them broke my susp . They didn´t fix it in pit Sad Steering was tilted 45 degress. O well next time i will be better prepared i hope drunken 


Thanks for race cheers
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Florkin Marc
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Location : Liège-Belguim
Registration date : 2008-11-18

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Zut,zut, et rezut !
Suspect 
Ecran figé :grrr: en pleine bagarre avec Freitas....!!

J'étais 4 ieme, et Ruben voulait ma place !
En plus, peloton de bagarreurs derrière moi ,
j'espère ne pas être responsable de dégats crée par la surprise !!

J'ai récupéré ma voiture dans le rail,mais la suspension était détruite,
mes mécanos n'ont pas pu réparé !! :doh: 

Marcus
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Cyril Derkir
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Cyril Derkir


Number of posts : 427
Age : 48
Location : france
Registration date : 2012-12-24

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je confirme le comportement en piste inacceptable de jonathan acerling
pour ma part j'ai été agressé 2 fois meme si ce n'a pas causé mon game over!Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad :grrr: :grrr: :grrr: 
du coup j'en passe mon compte rendu de course
merci à tout les autres et rdv en espagne
:conduit: 
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Mike Becnel
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Mike Becnel


Number of posts : 4741
Age : 56
Location : Sugar Land, TX, USA
Registration date : 2012-06-24

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Great race at end Greg and Yves. Awesome last lap pass and I know Yves was wishing he had that Ferrari engine on the main straight.


New rear suspension linkages added with final Ferrari upgrade. Not available on 28 car unfortunately. Makes for excellent additional acceleration at starts too! See pic:

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Jonatan Acerclinth
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Jonatan Acerclinth


Number of posts : 1837
Age : 31
Location : Gräv, Sweden
Registration date : 2012-12-10

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That was not what I wanted for the debut in the Ferrari.

First off:

I'm very, very, very, very sorry Mike Crying or Very sad 

What I was trying to do on the run to Turn 1 was to try and help you get more speed by doing, as you decided to put it, Nascar Redneck driving which in my book was friendly TC nudging, and then I began to brake but unfortunately I didn't brake hard enough as you braked harder and I couldn't avoid hitting you Crying or Very sad 

I spent the whole lap on the way back to the pits cursing myself for that because, I agree Mike, it is unaccepteble driving from my side Evil or Very Mad 

Second off:

I am terribly sorry Cyril Crying or Very sad 

What happened on the first one was that you had a earlier braking point than me and that surprised me so I jumped on the brakes and locked up and after that I had no way of avoiding your rear left tire Sad 

The second time I outbraked myself completely trying to hard to get past Sad

I waited both times for you to get going and past me and then I went full blast again. If you want me to stay behind longer next time, I hope there won't be a next time, tell me and I'll stay behind for as long as you want me to.

Again, sorry to you both and I hope I've made it clear that this is far below my usual, and even more, wanted standard of driving. I'm very frustrated with my driving tonight and I am now going to go out for a run to try and get some of the frustration out and then I'll do a lot more practice for the next round.


The rest of the evening was a question of keeping the car in control and trying to not get into more trouble. Steering damage and right side suspension damage + steering damage wasn't helping me keeping the car in control but I hope I wasn't in the way of anyone else during the race Sad
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Mike Becnel
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Explanation accepted. Go give yourself a wedgie. Atomic off a doorknob if possible :D

You still can't have the new suspension upgrade. Note, as much as I spin passing me assures no safety.

FYi - I never touched my brakes. Lifted just before the spatula happened. Was waiting for you to brake.


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Ruben Freitas
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Ruben Freitas


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Location : Paredes
Registration date : 2012-09-19

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Anders Nilsson wrote:
That was fun as long it lasted Very Happy . THe Brabham is a better car than my old AGS but also much harder to drive . To little time in car, made me do two mistakes and one of them broke my susp . They didn´t fix it in pit Sad Steering was tilted 45 degress. O well next time i will be better prepared i hope drunken 


Thanks for race cheers
i will also better prepare myselfe for the next race
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Jonatan Acerclinth
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Jonatan Acerclinth


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Age : 31
Location : Gräv, Sweden
Registration date : 2012-12-10

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Mike Becnel wrote:
Explanation accepted. Go give yourself a wedgie. Atomic off a doorknob if possible :D
Yes sir, will do sir.

Mike Becnel wrote:
You still can't have the new suspension upgrade. Note, as much as I spin passing me assures no safety.
I don't think I have any need of the upgrade, I do need more time in the car though Embarassed 

I think I'm spinning about as much so not much security in passing me either I'm affraid pale Embarassed 

Mike Becnel wrote:
FYi - I never touched my brakes. Lifted just before the spatula happened. Was waiting for you to brake.
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Considering the amount you were slowing down I was sure you were braking because I was on, about, 25% of the brakepedal and a little bit of trail throttle when I hit you scratch pale affraid 

Allow me one more try and I'll show that I can drive cleanly (contact wise). Misstake wise..... I will most likely spin a few times :aie: 
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