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Frank Verplanken
Felipe Elias
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Tiago Malafaya
Jason White
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Guillaume Siebert
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EVENT SCHEDULE (all times CET, Paris time)

Sunday March 11th :

8:00 PM - Qualifying session (60 minutes, unlimited number of laps)
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9.15 PM - Race start, 24 laps (password : hso72)
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Yoann Quioc
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Present. Hope to have better luck this time Round 4 - Elkhart Lake [Mar. 11th] 822172 as this is another of my favourite circuits.

Actually most tracks in the US are my favourites Round 4 - Elkhart Lake [Mar. 11th] 613582
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présent en espérant faire plus de 20 mètres en course Neutral

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I'll be there ..
Hopefully i can finish this time ...

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Présent :D
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Tried the course last night; man do I have a lot of work ahead of me! Most of the corners are second gear turns, which means the car is extra twitchy pale I would gladly welcome any tips or suggestions from the other members of the McLaren brigade...

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You need soft suspension at the rear to absorb the big acceleration, and at the same time moderate to hard bound and rebound to prevent it from unloading under the extreme braking from high speeds.

In the front you want harder springs and stiffer roll bar for good control in the high speed turns.

Start with the softest springs on the rear and add bump and rebound to increase stability under braking until the front becomes too unloaded at corner exit. Then add some rebound in the front.

Actually I think that the Watkins Glenn setup should be a good base to start here, except maybe some less rebound as the elevation changes are not so critical. My guess for starting would be springs 70/60 (Or even 60/60), front bump/rebound 4/4 and rear bump/rebound 3/5 or so. Put the softer antirollbars and get your springs/bumpers for acceleration/decceleration working, then change the roll bars and some front bump for the cornering.

When you have the basic balance dialed, add wing proportionally without unsettling it until you are starting to be slowed down.
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Thanks Alberto Very Happy

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The most difficult thing for us "lesser mortals" to do is to actually differentiate when we are improving our driving, and when it's the car that has improved. The best thing is to get a quick baseline setup you feel comfortable with, and then work a lot on the track with the same setup, being sure you improve your driving to the max. You will know you are there when you can do at least 5-10 laps with times in the same second.

Then, and only then, you can start doing changes, one at a time, to overcome the problems you identify on different spots of the track. Also, prioritizing between them: First work on the faster sections, where there is more time to gain, later on the slowers.

If I wasn't so methodical in my setting up for the course, I guarantee you I would be 5 seconds down the slowest guy out there ... so crappy is my driving talent Round 4 - Elkhart Lake [Mar. 11th] 228364
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The track is long and requires mileage before knowing what should be your target laptime. My first timed lap was a 2'07, I've improved until I regulary clocked 2'04s laps, and then started to tweak the setup, to finally go under the 2'04 benchmark.

But my guess is that fastest times will be mid 2'02s.
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I would also recommend using 3rd gear instead on second in most "slow" corners Wink

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Antoine de Mautor wrote:
I would also recommend using 3rd gear instead on second in most "slow" corners Wink

I knew it.

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If I wasn't so methodical in my setting up for the course, I guarantee you I would be 5 seconds down the slowest guy out there ... so crappy is my driving talent Round 4 - Elkhart Lake [Mar. 11th] 228364

If I was as methodical in my setting up, I'd probably win every single race, so awesome are my driving skills :hihi: :aie: lol!

Feeling any improvement Jason? Smile


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Antoine de Mautor wrote:
Alberto Ibañez wrote:
If I wasn't so methodical in my setting up for the course, I guarantee you I would be 5 seconds down the slowest guy out there ... so crappy is my driving talent Round 4 - Elkhart Lake [Mar. 11th] 228364

If I was as methodical in my setting up, I'd probably win every single race, so awesome are my driving skills :hihi: :aie: lol!

Feeling any improvement Jason? Smile


One statistic that was promising for me after The Glen: I was one of the more consistent drivers lap-to-lap. Sixth in standard deviation, 7th in average deviation I think. Which means my driving style has smoothed out a great deal, right?

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By the way, the car is not tricky in 2nd gear, pedal to the metal and full opposite lock is the way to go with that gear. Razz
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si j arrive a rentrer a temps je serais la , avec 0 trainings et 1 mois sans avoir toucher mon volant , mais avec la rage au ventre :aie: :aie: :D :D :D :conduit: :conduit:

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Let's go then!

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Felipe can you please edit your profile with your full name ? Thanks Smile .

Nice avatar btw, Roberto Moreno and his unsponsored Bromley Reynard 88D on his way to the Euro F3000 title Cool

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Sure Frank! :doh:

And thanks! Roberto Moreno was a hero for what he did and how did! :chinois:
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Présent :conduit:
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Pretty quiet on the server thus far... :hum:

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To answer to your question to Tiago in the other topic, here's my replay on the ftp : ftp://91.121.135.76/setups/rFactor/HSO%20F5000/Elkhart%20Lake/ Wink
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