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 Round 4 - Elkhart Lake [Mar. 11th]

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Jason White
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Guillaume Siebert wrote:
To answer to your question to Tiago in the other topic, here's my replay on the ftp : ftp://91.121.135.76/setups/rFactor/HSO%20F5000/Elkhart%20Lake/ Wink
Thanks!

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Je ne serais pas présent pour cette course Wink
bonne course à tous
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Thibaut Vernice wrote:
Je ne serais pas présent pour cette course Wink
bonne course à tous

Evil or Very Mad il commence a se dégonfler le petit nouveau ou quoi ? :hihi: :hihi: :hihi:

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Fais pas attention à lui il est fou lol!

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Hihihi non pas du tout :hello:
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Guys I've downloaded the mod and Patch.
Took it for a spin at Estoril.
:aie:
These cars are CRAZYYYY!
How the f... there where guys to race it in real life??? lol!
This is like... Twisted Evil Its gonna kill you :antoine:

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David Guimarães wrote:
Guys I've downloaded the mod and Patch.
Took it for a spin at Estoril.
:aie:
These cars are CRAZYYYY!
How the f... there where guys to race it in real life??? lol!
This is like... Twisted Evil Its gonna kill you :antoine:

You should have seen our first round at Laguna Seca. 30 ft wide track with guard rails most of the way around. For us inexperienced drivers, it was more a matter of keeping the car on the course rather than going fast!

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Does anyone have a set up I could possibly borrow as a base set up? :spy:
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Alessio Campigotto wrote:
Does anyone have a set up I could possibly borrow as a base set up? :spy:

Alessio, try this setup. I put it together for my friend Shawn who ran the number 14 Surtees at Watkins Glen.

The principle problem with this car is the engine overrun when you lift off the throttle; it makes the car unstable in corners. I countered this by cutting back on the differential coast setting. The camber is set asymmetrical to favor right turns over left, which should help in the one long, sweeping right turn at Road America. You may need to adjust the spring settings to get stability under acceleration... also, try setting the wings to 3 (front) and 4 (rear)


VehicleClassSetting="HSO-F5000-72"
UpgradeSetting=(0,0)
//VEH=GAMEDATA\VEHICLES\HSO-F5000\TS8\1972\14\1972_14.VEH
//UpgradeClass=
//Power Steering=0
//Note: settings commented out if using the default

[GENERAL]
Notes=""
Symmetric=0
//CGRightSetting=0//50.0:50.0
//CGRearSetting=0//33.5:66.5
//WedgeSetting=0//0.00 turns
//FrontTireCompoundSetting=0//GOODYEAR
//RearTireCompoundSetting=0//GOODYEAR
//FuelSetting=29//30L (7laps)
//NumPitstopsSetting=1//1
//Pitstop1Setting=0//1L (0laps)
//Pitstop2Setting=0//N/A
//Pitstop3Setting=0//N/A

[LEFTFENDER]
//FenderFlareSetting=0//0.0 cm

[RIGHTFENDER]
//FenderFlareSetting=0//0.0 cm

[FRONTWING]
FWSetting=3//4

[REARWING]
RWSetting=4//5

[BODYAERO]
//RadiatorSetting=1//2
//BrakeDuctSetting=2//3

[SUSPENSION]
FrontAntiSwaySetting=2//30 N/mm
RearAntiSwaySetting=1//20 N/mm
//FrontToeInSetting=17//-0.15 deg
//RearToeInSetting=21//0.05 deg
//LeftCasterSetting=45//2.5 deg
//RightCasterSetting=45//2.5 deg
//LeftTrackBarSetting=0//0.0 cm
//RightTrackBarSetting=0//0.0 cm
//Front3rdPackerSetting=0//0.0 cm
//Front3rdSpringSetting=0//Detached
//Front3rdSlowBumpSetting=0//1
//Front3rdFastBumpSetting=0//1
//Front3rdSlowReboundSetting=0//1
//Front3rdFastReboundSetting=0//1
//Rear3rdPackerSetting=0//0.0 cm
//Rear3rdSpringSetting=0//Detached
//Rear3rdSlowBumpSetting=0//1
//Rear3rdFastBumpSetting=0//1
//Rear3rdSlowReboundSetting=0//1
//Rear3rdFastReboundSetting=0//1

[CONTROLS]
SteerLockSetting=15//20.0 deg
//RearBrakeSetting=40//55.0:45.0
//BrakePressureSetting=5//90%
//HandbrakePressSetting=0//0%

[ENGINE]
//RevLimitSetting=0//8,600
//EngineBoostSetting=0//1
//EngineBrakingMapSetting=0//0

[DRIVELINE]
//FinalDriveSetting=3//10/30 (bevel 1/ 1)
//ReverseSetting=3//20/67 (10.050)
Gear1Setting=8//12/34 (8.500)
Gear2Setting=18//18/35 (5.833)
Gear3Setting=28//20/31 (4.650)
Gear4Setting=37//25/33 (3.960)
Gear5Setting=44//16/18 (3.375)
//DiffPumpSetting=0//0%
DiffPowerSetting=6//30%
DiffCoastSetting=3//15%
//DiffPreloadSetting=0//1
//RearSplitSetting=0// 0.0:100.0

[FRONTLEFT]
CamberSetting=10//-2.5 deg
PressureSetting=22//112 kPa
//PackerSetting=5//0.5 cm
SpringSetting=5//70 N/mm
//SpringRubberSetting=0//Detached
RideHeightSetting=0//4.0 cm
//SlowBumpSetting=4//5
//FastBumpSetting=4//5
//SlowReboundSetting=4//5
//FastReboundSetting=4//5
//BrakeDiscSetting=0//2.8 cm
//BrakePadSetting=0//1

[FRONTRIGHT]
CamberSetting=0//-3.5 deg
PressureSetting=22//112 kPa
//PackerSetting=5//0.5 cm
SpringSetting=5//70 N/mm
//SpringRubberSetting=0//Detached
RideHeightSetting=0//4.0 cm
//SlowBumpSetting=4//5
//FastBumpSetting=4//5
//SlowReboundSetting=4//5
//FastReboundSetting=4//5
//BrakeDiscSetting=0//2.8 cm
//BrakePadSetting=0//1

[REARLEFT]
CamberSetting=10//-2.0 deg
PressureSetting=24//114 kPa
//PackerSetting=5//0.5 cm
SpringSetting=5//70 N/mm
//SpringRubberSetting=0//Detached
RideHeightSetting=5//4.5 cm
//SlowBumpSetting=4//5
//FastBumpSetting=4//5
//SlowReboundSetting=4//5
//FastReboundSetting=4//5
//BrakeDiscSetting=0//2.8 cm
//BrakePadSetting=0//1

[REARRIGHT]
CamberSetting=0//-3.0 deg
PressureSetting=24//114 kPa
//PackerSetting=5//0.5 cm
SpringSetting=5//70 N/mm
//SpringRubberSetting=0//Detached
RideHeightSetting=5//4.5 cm
//SlowBumpSetting=4//5
//FastBumpSetting=4//5
//SlowReboundSetting=4//5
//FastReboundSetting=4//5
//BrakeDiscSetting=0//2.8 cm
//BrakePadSetting=0//1

[BASIC]
Downforce=0.500000
Balance=0.500000
Ride=0.500000
Gearing=0.500000
Custom=1

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There are not a lot of different wings settings available but they have a big influence on the car's behaviour. Putting more rear wing will help a lot to get a stable car under acceleration.
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Guillaume Siebert wrote:
There are not a lot of different wings settings available but they have a big influence on the car's behaviour. Putting more rear wing will help a lot to get a stable car under acceleration.

Of course the problem with putting more rear wing in the car is that you lose straight line speed. At Watkins Glen I put too much wing in my car and I was a sitting duck on the long back straight Mad

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Thanks Jason, shaved a further second off of my lap, managed a 2:10.400.



Does anyone have any suggestions and feedback on my lap? How can I improve to reach at least 5 seconds from Guillaume's Alien lap time??
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Alessio Campigotto wrote:
Thanks Jason, shaved a further second off of my lap, managed a 2:10.400.

Excellent! I gather this was in a private session, not on the server?

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Alessio Campigotto wrote:
Thanks Jason, shaved a further second off of my lap, managed a 2:10.400.


Tres joli tour Alessio :top:
Je suis malheureusement assez mal placé pour te donner des conseils pour aller plus vite :D
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There are lots of fast turns where you upshift right on the exit of the corner, that means you could have go through the turn with that gear (most of the time 3rd gear, 4th gear in the fast right kink at the end of sector 2) and have a more stable car through this turn. Wink

My replay is available a bit earlier in this topic, and you can merge it with your own replay with this : http://www.rfactorcentral.com/detail.cfm?ID=rfVCRmerge and compare Wink
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The main thing I notice in you lap Alessio, is the hesitation going out of the corners, you start accelerating too soon, and have to lift before giving the gas again, that costs some time Wink
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Your brakes sound like they are locking up try moving the brake bias slightly more to the back Wink

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Thanks for everyone's advice and feedback! Managed to bring it down to a 2:08.9!!
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Alessio Campigotto wrote:
Thanks for everyone's advice and feedback! Managed to bring it down to a 2:08.9!!

Impressive!

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You're within 5s as you wanted :D
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surement absent Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad

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...the kidds these days... :papy:
You shouldn't drive that fast Alessio!! I mean do you even have a driving license? Suspect
The best I could do when I tried the mod was 1.17 :doh:
I cant drive those cars :aie:

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Greg Goissen wrote:
surement absent Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad
Il se dégonfle l'ancien ?? Laughing :D

Présent pour ma part !

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