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Emmanuel Vega
Steve Parker
Jean-François Bovy
Frank Verplanken
Ludovic Tiengou
Vincent Beretta
Patrick Marucco
Luis Garcia
Frank Labédan
Philippe Martinelli
Lionel Demoment
Timo Vermeersch
Tiago Malafaya
Guillaume Siebert
Carl Larrad
Antoine de Mautor
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Guillaume Siebert
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Guillaume Siebert


Number of posts : 13827
Age : 37
Location : Paris, France
Registration date : 2008-09-08

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PostSubject: Re: Round 5 - Monza   Round 5 - Monza - Page 2 Icon_minitimeThu 12 Nov 2009 - 12:05

De toutes façons, si tout ça n'est pas corrigé dans le prochain patch, on le fera nous même.
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Timo Vermeersch
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Timo Vermeersch


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Location : Brussels
Registration date : 2009-08-11

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PostSubject: Re: Round 5 - Monza   Round 5 - Monza - Page 2 Icon_minitimeThu 12 Nov 2009 - 12:11

Whatever the reasons behind turning of the tyre-wear, a measure I'm sure has been taken in the aim of improving the races, the result is that with Monza, Imola and Hockenheim, all three pure powertracks, remaining, there is not much left for the Porsche drivers to look forward too.

The Porsches will never be able to equal the times of the other cars. The small chance of compensating that in the pitstops by having fewer tyre changes is gone. And when the Porsche drivers by being consistent and through the bad luck of others, would still manage to have a shot at a good position, chances are high that the engine blows ...

This is in no way intended as critizing the fact that the tyre wear is turned off, which I'm sure has been decided in good faith in the aim to make races more equal, but it's hard to deny that the result is that the Porsches are now reduced to sitting ducks, so to speak.

It won't stop me from driving at Imola and Hockenheim, but I could understand that other drivers decide to give it a miss in view of the above prospects.

Just my 2 cents.

Timo
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Guillaume Siebert
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Guillaume Siebert


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PostSubject: Re: Round 5 - Monza   Round 5 - Monza - Page 2 Icon_minitimeThu 12 Nov 2009 - 12:31

Timo you are talking about the Porsche's advantage being gone, but how about the Alpina ? The Alpina is as slow as the Porsche in straight line, and is even slower in turns. It's the slowest car of the field, and adding to that it must do one tirechange per race whereas Porsches don't have to.

So Porsche has theorically a 1 minute advantage over the Alpina on a 1 hour (or more) race, do you think it's fair ?

The problem comes more from the tracks I think, as most tracks of the championship are fast tracks, Porsches and Alpinas have no chance to beat Schnitzer and Panteras :smil20:


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Antoine de Mautor
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Antoine de Mautor


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Location : Nantes, France
Registration date : 2008-09-08

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PostSubject: Re: Round 5 - Monza   Round 5 - Monza - Page 2 Icon_minitimeThu 12 Nov 2009 - 14:38

Yeah if it had been the schnitzer which have had such a disadvantage, we would have changed nothing, as it would have leveled the field in a good way to keep it. However, since the schnitzer and the Porsche have exactly the same tyre wear, it doesn't change anything in their comparative level of performance. However, Alpina drivers will now get the chance to do as many pit stops as the others, so hopefully they will get stronger thank to this measure. No big deal really.
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Antoine de Mautor
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PostSubject: Re: Round 5 - Monza   Round 5 - Monza - Page 2 Icon_minitimeThu 12 Nov 2009 - 20:27

Qualy N°1 launched !!
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Lionel Demoment
Experienced Driver
Lionel Demoment


Number of posts : 210
Age : 57
Location : Lyon
Registration date : 2008-12-18

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PostSubject: Re: Round 5 - Monza   Round 5 - Monza - Page 2 Icon_minitimeThu 12 Nov 2009 - 21:33

Merci Guillaume pour le setup :hello: Du coup, ça te fait du boulot en moins... j'ai amélioré :D
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Guillaume Siebert
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Héhé :top:
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Antoine de Mautor
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1st Qualy, results :

1 Vincent Beretta 2:01,281
2 Franck Labedan 2:01,347
3 Frank Verplanken 2:02,122
4 Tiago Malafaya 2:02,408
5 Antoine de Mautor 2:02,642
6 Guillaume Siebert 2:02,943
7 Franck Tripey 2:04,599
8 Ben_Paulet 2:05,955
9 Luis Garcia 2:06,668
10 Lionel Demoment 2:06,671
11 Patrick Marucco 2:06,963
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Frank Labédan
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Frank Labédan


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Location : france - Landes
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PostSubject: Re: Round 5 - Monza   Round 5 - Monza - Page 2 Icon_minitimeThu 12 Nov 2009 - 22:46

J'ai l'impression que nos Schnitzer sont un peu trop rapides par rapport a la concurrence :hum: ...faudrait nous lester un peu non :hihi:
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Patrick Marucco
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Patrick Marucco


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PostSubject: Re: Round 5 - Monza   Round 5 - Monza - Page 2 Icon_minitimeThu 12 Nov 2009 - 22:59

Ces chicanes sont vraiment piegeuses et il risque d'y avoir de la casse .......et pas que des moteurs :hum:
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Vincent Beretta
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PostSubject: Re: Round 5 - Monza   Round 5 - Monza - Page 2 Icon_minitimeThu 12 Nov 2009 - 23:03

que se passe-t'il en course si on court-circuite une pile de pneus Question on a une pénalité Question
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Ludovic Tiengou
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Ludovic Tiengou


Number of posts : 2986
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Location : Grenoble far away from Brittany, France
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PostSubject: Re: Round 5 - Monza   Round 5 - Monza - Page 2 Icon_minitimeThu 12 Nov 2009 - 23:05

Pas pu venir ce soir. Pas grave j'essairais d'etre là samedi
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Guillaume Siebert
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Guillaume Siebert


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PostSubject: Re: Round 5 - Monza   Round 5 - Monza - Page 2 Icon_minitimeThu 12 Nov 2009 - 23:16

Vincent Beretta wrote:
que se passe-t'il en course si on court-circuite une pile de pneus Question on a une pénalité Question

Je crois que si tu court circuite 3 fois tu as un stop & go.
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Carl Larrad
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Carl Larrad


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Location : Swindon , UK
Registration date : 2008-12-20

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PostSubject: Re: Round 5 - Monza   Round 5 - Monza - Page 2 Icon_minitimeFri 13 Nov 2009 - 2:53

I Think i opened up a can of worms here Embarassed
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Jean-François Bovy
Pro Driver
Jean-François Bovy


Number of posts : 907
Age : 46
Location : Brussels, Belgium
Registration date : 2008-09-20

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je serai absent pour cette manche Crying or Very sad
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Steve Parker
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Steve Parker


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Registration date : 2008-12-22

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Should be there for qualy saturday and race :top:
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Vincent Beretta
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Vincent Beretta


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PostSubject: Re: Round 5 - Monza   Round 5 - Monza - Page 2 Icon_minitimeFri 13 Nov 2009 - 21:09

C'est interessant ce replay merged des 6 meilleurs tours des 1eres qualifs
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Frank Verplanken
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Frank Verplanken


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PostSubject: Re: Round 5 - Monza   Round 5 - Monza - Page 2 Icon_minitimeSat 14 Nov 2009 - 0:01

Excellent Vincent, merci :top: ! Où l'on voit que la Pantera n'est pas si avantagée que ça en pointe, mais qu'elle se défend quand même au freinage :p .
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Frank Labédan
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Frank Labédan


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PostSubject: Re: Round 5 - Monza   Round 5 - Monza - Page 2 Icon_minitimeSat 14 Nov 2009 - 9:43

Magnifique Vincent :top: ...très enrichissant ce 'merge' ...
Qu'est ce que je mets a ce pauvre Gui avec le même voiture :D (on m'aurait menti? :hum: )
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Patrick Marucco
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Patrick Marucco


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PostSubject: Re: Round 5 - Monza   Round 5 - Monza - Page 2 Icon_minitimeSat 14 Nov 2009 - 11:49

C'est à la fois tres beau et tres instructif, merci Vincent :top:
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Guillaume Siebert
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Guillaume Siebert


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Frank Labédan wrote:
Magnifique Vincent :top: ...très enrichissant ce 'merge' ...
Qu'est ce que je mets a ce pauvre Gui avec le même voiture :D (on m'aurait menti? :hum: )

:langue:
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Carl Larrad
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Carl Larrad


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Vincent Beretta wrote:
C'est interessant ce replay merged des 6 meilleurs tours des 1eres qualifs
Nice one vincent I Love RfcMerge Frank wins the prize for using the most track lol!
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Frank Verplanken
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Frank Verplanken


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PostSubject: Re: Round 5 - Monza   Round 5 - Monza - Page 2 Icon_minitimeSat 14 Nov 2009 - 15:55

It makes sens as I have the biggest one :hihi: (biggest car that is, eh lol! ) !
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Guillaume Siebert
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Guillaume Siebert


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PostSubject: Re: Round 5 - Monza   Round 5 - Monza - Page 2 Icon_minitimeSat 14 Nov 2009 - 20:23

C'est parti pour la deuxième séance Smile

Second qualifying session is on Smile
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Carl Larrad
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PostSubject: Re: Round 5 - Monza   Round 5 - Monza - Page 2 Icon_minitimeSat 14 Nov 2009 - 22:34

I Dont think ill be back in time tommorrow night
but thought i would put a few laps in just incase .... bounce
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