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 Rounds 1 & 2 - Silverstone GP [June 23rd]

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Philippe Martinelli
Mattos Maul
Gilles Lalonde
Dave Miller
Gérard Ryon
Michael Griffiths
Mick Chapman
Karel Marciniszyn
François Remmen
Gerardo Magnano
Honza Mild
Oyvind Andersen
Sam Smith
Austin Johnson
Matias Estrela
Peter Blom
Jason White
Jan Kowalski
Raymond Riddall
Cezariusz Czlapinski
Adam Hackman
Jason Whited
Greg DellaCella
Jacob Fredriksson
Jason Fitch
Bruno Chacon
Alberto Ibañez
Steve Parker
David Sabre
Grant Riddall
David Jundt
Juha Bos
Lukáš Vydra
Richard Coxon
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Gilles Lalonde
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Gilles Lalonde


Number of posts : 30
Age : 52
Location : Montreal, Quebec
Registration date : 2017-09-15

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If I can get the last car, I'll be there.

bounce

BTW, when this track was codded, the edges of the tarmac were delimited by the fences but at each cones and post, the limits jump back to the edge of the track. The rendering engine makes jaggies out of it. Its not a problem for online at all but the AI will lose it for no reason. These jaggies show up on LiveRacers specifically because the pit road ends up being wider than the track so it's engine goes berserk.

I cleaned it all up for myself but it would need to be a new download. It's just the AIW file.

Here at Woodcote:
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Mattos Maul
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Mattos Maul


Number of posts : 27
Age : 49
Location : Wales. United Kingdom
Registration date : 2019-04-11

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:conduit:
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Richard Coxon
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Richard Coxon


Number of posts : 16590
Age : 37
Location : Sheffield, England
Registration date : 2012-06-29

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Thanks for the offer Gilles, but i doubt we will be changing the files at this late stage.  Smile

It seems you know your way around AIW though.  :top:

P.S You got the car, see you Sunday  :conduit:
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David Sabre
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David Sabre


Number of posts : 5340
Age : 60
Location : england
Registration date : 2012-02-25

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Gilles Lalonde wrote:
I cleaned it all up for myself but it would need to be a new download. It's just the AIW file.
:top:
Can you upload it somewhere for us to download.
Even if it doesn't get used this time it could be used in the future.
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Gilles Lalonde
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Gilles Lalonde


Number of posts : 30
Age : 52
Location : Montreal, Quebec
Registration date : 2017-09-15

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Thank You for having me, I'll be there Sunday no worries.

As for the AIW, I've been doing those for rF1 for next to 10 years now, I use to post them on NGR...

I changed a tidbit on this one last night, I'll test it this afternoon and upload it to MediaFire soon.

Thx again.

I also cleaned up the slalom the AI were doing in the paddock.


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Philippe Martinelli
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Number of posts : 1079
Age : 68
Location : Beausoleil, France
Registration date : 2008-12-13

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Présent Wink
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François Remmen
Pro Driver
François Remmen


Number of posts : 880
Age : 44
Location : Netherlands
Registration date : 2012-12-22

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then now we have 2 AIW specialist!

very very good!

welcome at the club! :clap: :clap:
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Michael Griffiths
Club Driver
Michael Griffiths


Number of posts : 145
Age : 55
Location : uk
Registration date : 2018-11-17

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David Sabre wrote:
I'll take a look at it but its not long to race day.

I think it's an affect of texture tiling syncing with the framerate(? 60fps) and speed of car, so it appears the road (or the bumpmap for it) "stops" and it seems the car is kinda floating when going along a straight.   And then when slowing for a corner suddenly the texture/bumpmap appears to be moving away from the car as the "sync" between car speed and texture repeat changes slightly.   [Most noticeable in the rollbar view (I use cockpit view with the cam raised a bit)]

Kind of like the wagonwheel effect in film.  It isn't as extreme as in this video, but similar in principle, I think.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOwzkND_ooU

or this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8EMI3_0TO0

I tried different road textures from other circuits (I think ROAD_S.dds might be the culprit) but nothing seems to fix it, so far at least.  I shall try a Reshade overlay with some motion blur or something perhaps, because it's very disconcerting.  

I tried to video it, but video compression prevents the effect showing up in recordings.  And stills don't work.  I tried Watkins Glen as a comparison and that doesn't suffer the issue so obviously at all.

No worries, I'll just try to ignore it.


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Thiago Canola
Experienced Driver
Thiago Canola


Number of posts : 204
Age : 43
Location : USA
Registration date : 2017-01-23

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The #22 is free for this weekend. I will not be able to make it this time.
Sad

Have fun guys!!!! :yaa:
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Luis Almeida
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Number of posts : 18
Age : 59
Location : Porto, Portugal
Registration date : 2019-06-19

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Still a bit slow as I resgistered late, but I´ll be there!
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Matias Estrela
Club Driver
Matias Estrela


Number of posts : 116
Age : 57
Location : Spain
Registration date : 2010-01-18

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+1
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Alberto Ibañez
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Alberto Ibañez


Number of posts : 16788
Age : 121
Location : International Simracing Organisation
Registration date : 2010-09-17

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Gilles Lalonde wrote:
As for the AIW, I've been doing those for rF1 for next to 10 years now, I use to post them on NGR...

Well in 1946 years of life you sure had time for that  Laughing
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Dave Miller
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Dave Miller


Number of posts : 301
Location : England
Registration date : 2012-07-10

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We're doing the big ship today, so I should be able to race tomorrow. Very Happy
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David Sabre
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David Sabre


Number of posts : 5340
Age : 60
Location : england
Registration date : 2012-02-25

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Silverstone 8th April 1973 F3
http://www.f3history.co.uk/Races/1973/Silv_8_4_73/Silv_8_4_73.htm

Silverstone 14th July 1973 F3
http://www.f3history.co.uk/Races/1973/Silv_14_7_73/Silv_14_7_73.htm
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Gilles Lalonde
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Gilles Lalonde


Number of posts : 30
Age : 52
Location : Montreal, Quebec
Registration date : 2017-09-15

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:D
I figure why it was showing " 1946 ", I had set my birthday to 72 and not 1972.
Garbage in... garbage out!

@Dave, "big ship" as in big shipment or big boat ?
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Brian Janik
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Number of posts : 449
Age : 124
Location : Detroit, MI
Registration date : 2014-01-19

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:conduit:

David Sabre wrote:
Silverstone 8th April 1973 F3
http://www.f3history.co.uk/Races/1973/Silv_8_4_73/Silv_8_4_73.htm

Silverstone 14th July 1973 F3
http://www.f3history.co.uk/Races/1973/Silv_14_7_73/Silv_14_7_73.htm


Martini on pole in 1 race? Damn!
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Peter Blom
Pro Driver
Peter Blom


Number of posts : 818
Age : 43
Location : Amsterdam
Registration date : 2012-11-01

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Sky on Silverstone is striped while I am driving around. Any clue how to solve that? I already had Silverstone71 in my locations folder and I simply overwrited it when asked.
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Gilles Lalonde
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Gilles Lalonde


Number of posts : 30
Age : 52
Location : Montreal, Quebec
Registration date : 2017-09-15

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Peter Blom wrote:
Sky on Silverstone is striped while I am driving around. Any clue how to solve that?

The Circus effect !!! :rigol:

Try augmenting the Track Details a notch at a time. If that ends up taxing you computer and your frame rate goes south (CTRL-F to get the frame rate at the top right), you can try and switch the SKY01.DDS that resides under "Steam\steamapps\common\Automobilista\GameData\Locations\Silverstone71\".

The present one is over 4 meg, if you look in the folders of the other tracks, use a file manager like Windows Explorer, navigate to the "Locations" folder and use the Search to find another one, most are 2.7 megs. Use only a SKY01, not a SKY02 or 3 or 4. SKY01.

Rename the original and copy/paste the smaller one and start AMS... should work and it won't give any online mismatch as it has nothing to do with car performance.

You can also use one from a rFactor 1 track.

HF
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Richard Coxon
Racing Legend
Richard Coxon


Number of posts : 16590
Age : 37
Location : Sheffield, England
Registration date : 2012-06-29

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Try turning your track details to max.
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François Remmen
Pro Driver
François Remmen


Number of posts : 880
Age : 44
Location : Netherlands
Registration date : 2012-12-22

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the sky is from the hudson kerr package created for rfactor back in well 2007-2009 and the best around for rFactor! and use them always in my tracks
this needs FULL textures to make it shine
Afterall we all should run in 2019 low 3d model tracks with High rez textures arent we?
upgrading low tracks with highh rez textures makes alot diffence in immersion
so upgrading your hardware is more nessesary then lower already a poor track to comic textures in 2019!!
and if not then simply crank up all graphics in menu to full / max :D

despite the other textures in this AMS version are not present as i intended ( got knows why Rolling Eyes ) and use a low quality sky makes it even worse and frustrates me alot while the quality is there and not shown to you pc as intended by give the same immersion in all you rooms around the world what that is created with full passion.








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Karel Marciniszyn
Pro Driver
Karel Marciniszyn


Number of posts : 954
Age : 41
Location : Czech republic
Registration date : 2009-11-03

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I will never again choose car by its number
I will never again choose car by its number
I will never again choose car by its number
I will never again choose car by its number
I will never again choose car by its number
I will never again choose car by its number
100xI will never again choose car by its number

:D :D :D

On the other hand...sooooo MUCH FUN to drive
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Michael Griffiths
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Michael Griffiths


Number of posts : 145
Age : 55
Location : uk
Registration date : 2018-11-17

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I found the file that was causing issue

ROADdetail2.dds

I swapped that with a road texture from Snetterton and it works much better (the repeating pattern is gone)

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I also have a different sky Wink

This road texture does generate some anomalies on the left hand side, as on the inside of the corner in the pic above. But I prefer that than the floaty experience on a synced repeating pattern. :D All good now.
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Oyvind Andersen
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Oyvind Andersen


Number of posts : 182
Age : 72
Location : Norway
Registration date : 2016-05-05

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sorry and say so. but I am very unsure if I am going to the evening race. something unexpected has happen Sad
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Petr Hlavac
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Petr Hlavac


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Age : 41
Location : Brno, Czech Republic
Registration date : 2015-01-11

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:conduit:
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Mattos Maul
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Mattos Maul


Number of posts : 27
Age : 49
Location : Wales. United Kingdom
Registration date : 2019-04-11

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I can make the race, hope I still have the car?
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