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 Round 4 - Budweiser/G.I. Joe's 200 [Apr 14th]

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Dave Miller
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David Jundt
Mick Chapman
Gabriel Legnini
John Thim
David Jaques
Thiago Canola
Richard Coxon
Richard Wilks
Brian Janik
Bruno Chacon
Raul Jereb
Jonatan Acerclinth
Gérard Ryon
Adam Hackman
Petr Hlavac
Raymond Riddall
Grant Riddall
Jason Fitch
Austin Johnson
Jason Whited
Jason White
David Sabre
Martin Lacina
Alberto Ibañez
Lukáš Vydra
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Petr Hlavac
Pro Driver
Petr Hlavac


Number of posts : 873
Age : 41
Location : Brno, Czech Republic
Registration date : 2015-01-11

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PostSubject: Re: Round 4 - Budweiser/G.I. Joe's 200 [Apr 14th]    Round 4 - Budweiser/G.I. Joe's 200 [Apr 14th]   - Page 3 Icon_minitimeSat 13 Apr 2019 - 18:46

I'm all for track limits, but as they are set up for Portland is simply not right. Yes, it's the same for everyone, but it will penalize you for literally nothing at all. There's grass to punish you for exceeding the track. Many people's race will be destroyed for no reason.
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Richard Coxon
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Richard Coxon


Number of posts : 16590
Age : 36
Location : Sheffield, England
Registration date : 2012-06-29

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Where does it punish you for nothing at all?

I'm sorry but you can use kerbs with 2 wheels, but you can't put a full car on them.

The kerbs don't change regarding where they give you warnings, practice and learn the limits. If people are continuously exceeding them and getting warnings, you need to look at yourselves and maybe not charge as much into corners. We've taken some measures to aid the situation, but we are not turning them off, there is simply no need. We asked earlier in the week for pictures showing trouble spots and only Raul posted one as we requested and we advised and addressed that. It's no good coming to us Saturday evening expecting massive changes.

I've managed to learn as have others so it is possible.
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Jan Kowalski
Pro Driver
Jan Kowalski


Number of posts : 777
Age : 33
Location : Germany
Registration date : 2008-11-28

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I would like to drive #14 Lola if its free now
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Alberto Ibañez
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Alberto Ibañez


Number of posts : 16788
Age : 121
Location : International Simracing Organisation
Registration date : 2010-09-17

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#14 A.J Foyt Enterprises 
#16 Bettenhausen Motorsports 
#21 Alex Morales Racing 

Are free rides now, first come, first serve.
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Alberto Ibañez
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Alberto Ibañez


Number of posts : 16788
Age : 121
Location : International Simracing Organisation
Registration date : 2010-09-17

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#14 is for Jan Kowalski
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David Jundt
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David Jundt


Number of posts : 2647
Age : 34
Location : Binningen, Switzerland
Registration date : 2012-07-14

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Richard Coxon wrote:
Where does it punish you for nothing at all?

I'm sorry but you can use kerbs with 2 wheels, but you can't put a full car on them.

I've seen a picture posted and it only has two wheels on the kerb?
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Richard Wilks
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Richard Wilks


Number of posts : 2212
Age : 40
Location : Portugal
Registration date : 2015-01-07

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Two wheels on the kerb is already more than the real drivers used in most of the kerbs around this track back in 1988.

And two wheels is fine everywhere. Two wheels and a bit more of the car is not.
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Petr Hlavac
Pro Driver
Petr Hlavac


Number of posts : 873
Age : 41
Location : Brno, Czech Republic
Registration date : 2015-01-11

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Richard Coxon wrote:
Where does it punish you for nothing at all?

I'm sorry but you can use kerbs with 2 wheels, but you can't put a full car on them.

The kerbs don't change regarding where they give you warnings, practice and learn the limits. If people are continuously exceeding them and getting warnings, you need to look at yourselves and maybe not charge as much into corners. We've taken some measures to aid the situation, but we are not turning them off, there is simply no need. We asked earlier in the week for pictures showing trouble spots and only Raul posted one as we requested and we advised and addressed that. It's no good coming to us Saturday evening expecting massive changes.

I've managed to learn as have others so it is possible.

Exit from the right hander leading to the back straight gives you significantly less tolerance. It's one of the places where people will attempt to pass, you'll get shoved off the line and get penalized. The last chicane is also too tight. I'm not expecting any changes, but it simply makes no sense to penalize riding curbs on such track as Portland. There's always grass to punish you, this is no COTA. Also, riding none of the penalized spots (except the first chicane) will actually make you faster. People will get punished for driver errors, not for being faster by "cheating". Enforcing track limits at such track simply makes no sense from my point of view. But I guess I'll just shut up and drive...
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Richard Coxon
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Richard Coxon


Number of posts : 16590
Age : 36
Location : Sheffield, England
Registration date : 2012-06-29

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The warnings are given out on your speed too, the kerb you mention, I have been right up to the edge and no warning. I only got them if I touched the grass.
The last chicane is fine, just put less than 50% of you're car on it and you'll be okay. You won't be losing out as everyone will be doing it.
The grass in game will never punish you like in real life, we've seen that in this scenario many many times in the past with no effect on the cars.

We admit, it isn't ideal, but we can't change it at this point, again as before we've made changes to assist with the situation but we're not removing them completely as much more could be gained with them off.

Everyone will have to work round it, the track is perfectly okay to race on and many people are just working around it.
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Petr Hlavac
Pro Driver
Petr Hlavac


Number of posts : 873
Age : 41
Location : Brno, Czech Republic
Registration date : 2015-01-11

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Richard Coxon wrote:
We admit, it isn't ideal, but we can't change it at this point, again as before we've made changes to assist with the situation but we're not removing them completely as much more could be gained with them off.

Okay, fair enough :top:
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Brian Janik
Experienced Driver



Number of posts : 449
Age : 123
Location : Detroit, MI
Registration date : 2014-01-19

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trying to treat as Monaco with invisible armco. At least we wont lose a wing/wheel geek
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Mick Chapman
Pro Driver
Mick Chapman


Number of posts : 695
Age : 57
Location : Wales/Pays de Galles
Registration date : 2014-01-04

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Can I request #21 for Mike G please. I'll get him to confirm asap.
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Jonatan Acerclinth
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Jonatan Acerclinth


Number of posts : 1837
Age : 31
Location : Gräv, Sweden
Registration date : 2012-12-10

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The broadcast has been created and can be found here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0_js26x5n0


Again I'm currently alone in the booth I think so if anyone wants to try out as a color commentator or re-enter after being one before, I'd appreciate it :drink:
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Dave Miller
Experienced Driver
Dave Miller


Number of posts : 301
Location : England
Registration date : 2012-07-10

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I'm available for tonight Jonatan
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Richard Coxon
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Richard Coxon


Number of posts : 16590
Age : 36
Location : Sheffield, England
Registration date : 2012-06-29

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Mick Chapman wrote:
Can I request #21 for Mike G please.     I'll get him to confirm asap.

That’s fine :top: But he needs to confirm before practice starts otherwise I’m not letting him race.
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Jan Kowalski
Pro Driver
Jan Kowalski


Number of posts : 777
Age : 33
Location : Germany
Registration date : 2008-11-28

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What boost i can go during race? Is it related to grill tape? Lola feels goog, but im far off the pace
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Michael Griffiths
Club Driver
Michael Griffiths


Number of posts : 145
Age : 54
Location : uk
Registration date : 2018-11-17

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#21 confirmed, thanks. Wink
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Richard Coxon
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Richard Coxon


Number of posts : 16590
Age : 36
Location : Sheffield, England
Registration date : 2012-06-29

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Jan Kowalski wrote:
What boost i can go during race? Is it related to grill tape? Lola feels goog, but im far off the pace

Full boost if you want. It's the rev limiter you have to drop to keep the engine safe.
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Jan Kowalski
Pro Driver
Jan Kowalski


Number of posts : 777
Age : 33
Location : Germany
Registration date : 2008-11-28

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ok lets have a nice race that will hopefully last long (no, i do not mean yellows :D )
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François Remmen
Pro Driver
François Remmen


Number of posts : 880
Age : 43
Location : Netherlands
Registration date : 2012-12-22

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like to try this

can i have the free car and some help setting up the car?
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Richard Coxon
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Richard Coxon


Number of posts : 16590
Age : 36
Location : Sheffield, England
Registration date : 2012-06-29

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Official server is up.

Qualifying begins at the top of the hour

:conduit:
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Yves Plaçais
Racing Legend
Yves Plaçais


Number of posts : 1981
Age : 63
Location : Angers, France.
Registration date : 2008-12-18

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Alberto Ibañez wrote:
#14 A.J Foyt Enterprises 
Are free rides now, first come, first serve.

Désolé, Alberto, de ne pas avoir prévenu de mon absence, quelques soucis personnels.

Amusez-vous bien !
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Lukáš Vydra
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Lukáš Vydra


Number of posts : 317
Age : 30
Location : Czech Republic
Registration date : 2018-10-29

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Slowest of all and with badly damaged suspension after contact with Jason (Fitch), it was just undriveable. I am sorry to those drivers which I lead into an unpleasant situation.
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Jan Kowalski
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Jan Kowalski


Number of posts : 777
Age : 33
Location : Germany
Registration date : 2008-11-28

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superb driving, really?
Have fun guys, it was a great pleasure until then with this mod :flag:
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Juha Bos
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Juha Bos


Number of posts : 1687
Age : 37
Location : Belgium
Registration date : 2016-05-11

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My first retirement of the year, took a bit too much kerb at the first chicane and game over.
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