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 Round 4 - Budweiser/G.I. Joe's 200 [Apr 14th]

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Dave Miller
Jan Kowalski
David Jundt
Mick Chapman
Gabriel Legnini
John Thim
David Jaques
Thiago Canola
Richard Coxon
Richard Wilks
Brian Janik
Bruno Chacon
Raul Jereb
Jonatan Acerclinth
Gérard Ryon
Adam Hackman
Petr Hlavac
Raymond Riddall
Grant Riddall
Jason Fitch
Austin Johnson
Jason Whited
Jason White
David Sabre
Martin Lacina
Alberto Ibañez
Lukáš Vydra
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Raul Jereb
Racing Legend
Raul Jereb


Number of posts : 1490
Age : 50
Location : Rijeka, Croatia
Registration date : 2013-05-28

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Richard Coxon wrote:
We're looking into it Raul and may issue a patch if necessary.

Oh great, so you are allready aware of it!!!
:chinois:
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Richard Coxon
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Richard Coxon


Number of posts : 16590
Age : 36
Location : Sheffield, England
Registration date : 2012-06-29

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If you are getting warnings that you feel are exaggerated or unjust, please post a screenshot where your car was placed, ideally from an external camera and we will look into that.
The few we have received we have looked into seem logical, but without pictures we cannot see the full picture.

Thank you.
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Brian Janik
Experienced Driver



Number of posts : 449
Age : 123
Location : Detroit, MI
Registration date : 2014-01-19

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Raul Jereb wrote:
The yellow part of the track at the exit of the backstraight, the left turn wich leads to double right and to main straight, well, it is very strange that you get penalised (lap not counting) even if you are on two (right) wheels on the black part of the track.. I could not find any rule how deep I can dive into this turn, but it seems to me just a little bit too sensitive.. on the other part, you can cut the first schicane with no penalty at all, though..

Ironic after watching the COTA race. Didnt know they ever payed attn to track limits Laughing
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Jonatan Acerclinth
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Jonatan Acerclinth


Number of posts : 1837
Age : 31
Location : Gräv, Sweden
Registration date : 2012-12-10

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Brian Janik wrote:
Raul Jereb wrote:
The yellow part of the track at the exit of the backstraight, the left turn wich leads to double right and to main straight, well, it is very strange that you get penalised (lap not counting) even if you are on two (right) wheels on the black part of the track.. I could not find any rule how deep I can dive into this turn, but it seems to me just a little bit too sensitive.. on the other part, you can cut the first schicane with no penalty at all, though..

Ironic after watching the COTA race. Didnt know they ever payed attn to track limits Laughing
Here-here to that one, good to know I wasn't alone in thinking that it was a bad race from that perspective, they drove a completely different track to how it was designed :smil20:

Ought to be a good race this one :D
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Thiago Canola
Experienced Driver
Thiago Canola


Number of posts : 204
Age : 43
Location : USA
Registration date : 2017-01-23

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Richard Coxon
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Richard Coxon


Number of posts : 16590
Age : 36
Location : Sheffield, England
Registration date : 2012-06-29

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:conduit:

Ready for battle Jakey!!! :yaa:
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Richard Coxon
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Richard Coxon


Number of posts : 16590
Age : 36
Location : Sheffield, England
Registration date : 2012-06-29

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Richard Coxon
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Richard Coxon


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Age : 36
Location : Sheffield, England
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** The server is now back up, but you will all need to download this update to the GDB. **

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David Jaques
Pro Driver
David Jaques


Number of posts : 512
Age : 43
Location : Canada
Registration date : 2013-03-28

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:conduit:
ready !
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John Thim
Club Driver
John Thim


Number of posts : 106
Age : 41
Location : Eskilstuna, Sweden
Registration date : 2017-08-30

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Too bad, missing this one. My car is free.
A shame for a fun track, however the reason is legit enough!  :flag: Very Happy

Threat her well.
Good luck.
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Brian Janik
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Number of posts : 449
Age : 123
Location : Detroit, MI
Registration date : 2014-01-19

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John Thim wrote:
Too bad, missing this one. My car is free.
A shame for a fun track, however the reason is legit enough!  :flag: Very Happy

Threat her well.
Good luck.


Can I borrow JT's wheels?
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Raul Jereb
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Raul Jereb


Number of posts : 1490
Age : 50
Location : Rijeka, Croatia
Registration date : 2013-05-28

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Well, today it became frustrating. I just cant go through that backstraight turn without being penalised..

and on the pictures it is a moment Ive just being told I exceeded the track limits!!!!

Rage

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Richard Coxon
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Richard Coxon


Number of posts : 16590
Age : 36
Location : Sheffield, England
Registration date : 2012-06-29

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Stop taking so much kerb and you will be fine.

Never put more than 50% of the car on the kerb.
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Gabriel Legnini
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Number of posts : 37
Age : 38
Location : Mendoza, Argentina
Registration date : 2019-04-02

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Had a good bit of spare time last night, so I decided to join a practice server for the first time to get an idea of where do I stand compared to other drivers (no plans of racing this round, besides the small fact that no cars are available :D ), picked a March 88C-Cosworth (KRACO, Michael Andretti, sorry for stealing it from its actual driver :hihi: ) and off I went. Took me a lot of laps to get up to speed, and to find where I was lacking, as my top speeds were awful even as I got down to 00s. Putting radiator in 5 seemed to be more important than the boost I used for finally getting inside 59s, seemed to hold just fine with oil temps peaking at 111-112 ºC. I was doing half tank runs with max pressure, and even with a bit of degradation, fastest times would always come in the last laps :conduit: Seems like in the search of top speed I ended up on the low side of downforce, as I had the best topspeed recorded on the liveracers, and I wasn't drafting anybody.

Fuel strategy aside, what boost levels do you need to run for the engine to last the entire distance?
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Juha Bos
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Juha Bos


Number of posts : 1687
Age : 37
Location : Belgium
Registration date : 2016-05-11

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The engine will last the full distance on maximum boost, it's a higher rev limit that does the damage.
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Gabriel Legnini
Rookie



Number of posts : 37
Age : 38
Location : Mendoza, Argentina
Registration date : 2019-04-02

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10-4 Very Happy
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Raul Jereb
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Raul Jereb


Number of posts : 1490
Age : 50
Location : Rijeka, Croatia
Registration date : 2013-05-28

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Gabriel Legnini wrote:
10-4 Very Happy

affraid affraid affraid affraid affraid affraid
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Richard Coxon
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Richard Coxon


Number of posts : 16590
Age : 36
Location : Sheffield, England
Registration date : 2012-06-29

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Brian Janik wrote:
John Thim wrote:
Too bad, missing this one. My car is free.
A shame for a fun track, however the reason is legit enough!  :flag: Very Happy

Threat her well.
Good luck.


Can I borrow JT's wheels?

Of course :top:
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Grant Riddall
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Grant Riddall


Number of posts : 313
Age : 34
Location : England
Registration date : 2015-12-10

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Hey, just thought id post this question I have here...

Ive put in 100+ laps and I am finding a very inconsistent track limits. Especially on the exit of turn8(?) (the right hander before the back straight). One lap Ill ride the kerb on exit completely fine and the next lap I have "track limits" come up. Half my car is over the white line and still on the racing track.

However I then noticed something and had a thought.. I went on an outlap and the left right chicane before the last turn I went completely over the kerb, 100% over it and no warning.. nothing... I was only going around 120mph however.

So anyway my question is... Could speed be impacting and dishing out "unfair" warnings on certain corners and especially exits?

Could perhaps one lap on an exit of a turn where you didn't get such great exit speed be okay and the next lap when you nail the exit make the game think "too fast" and hand out a warning?



I may be completely off with this and wrong but was just what I am experiencing so thought id ask Smile
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Richard Coxon
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Richard Coxon


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Registration date : 2012-06-29

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Speed has a factor yes.

I've found that even if you put just one mm on the grass at the back edge of a kerb, you'll get a warning.
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Richard Wilks
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Richard Wilks


Number of posts : 2212
Age : 40
Location : Portugal
Registration date : 2015-01-07

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And it makes sense to be like that, or else if you spin or go of course because of an accident, you don't get a warning/penalty.
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Bruno Chacon
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Bruno Chacon


Number of posts : 476
Age : 64
Location : Brazil
Registration date : 2017-03-08

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Mick Chapman
Pro Driver
Mick Chapman


Number of posts : 695
Age : 57
Location : Wales/Pays de Galles
Registration date : 2014-01-04

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David Jundt
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David Jundt


Number of posts : 2647
Age : 34
Location : Binningen, Switzerland
Registration date : 2012-07-14

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Racing.

It appears though that if the right side tyres are still within limits, so the track limits warning is wrong and the track boundaries slightly skewed.

Not to mention: What happens if two cars go side-by-side, one car squeezes for whatever reason and runs them into the grass or kerb, getting the other driver a strike?
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Richard Wilks
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Richard Wilks


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Age : 40
Location : Portugal
Registration date : 2015-01-07

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Track limits are the same for everybody. So respect them and there shall be no problems. About racing incidents, this is not the first race we do with track limits.
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