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David Jundt
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Why... why would they not include headlights! Laughing

Typical stupid Swiss people!


Wait...


But seriously... why does it seem like that's the only car without them? Did Walter spend his money elsewhere? lol!

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A lot of teams back then swapped the front cover mid race, probably to reduce drag because of the light fittings. In this case though the car retired before the sun went down so the front cover with lights never made an appearance.

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Was that the only 956 that retired before sundown?

Isn't it possible to change that and add an upgrade with headlights? Just because it retired earlier doesn't mean it didn't have them at all scratch

Seems a bit strange by the guys at Virtua_LM to not add the possibility of headlights Shocked

I don't think they intended for the car to be unusable for a historic re-run of Kyalami...

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Alberto Ibañez
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Alberto Ibañez


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David Jundt wrote:
Seems a bit strange by the guys at Virtua_LM to not add the possibility of headlights Shocked

Even more strange if you consider the VLM was supposed to be mostly a 24h of Le Mans 1983 mod :hum:

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Yeah, I need told hold back the urge to facepalm...

:doh:

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Hi guys, if I understand well the question...I think this happen because Brun Motorsport bought is first Porsche 956 after the race of Le Mans 83, they did their first race with Porsche 956 in Spa 83. Virtua_LM did all the liveries used for Le Mans 83 edition (Brun race in Le Mans 83 with Sehcar), and other liveries used in 83 season race in daytime (they raced in some moments of Spa weekend with cover front light)

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Gabriel Legnini
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I was surprised to see that the Porsche 956 has no springs adjustments available, and fixed values are quite low. I would have thought that, as a pure-breed ground effect car, those would be available to adjust for finetuning the underfloor's perfomance, and they could be made stiffer for getting the most out of it. Did they really use soft springs and never adjusted them? I know that values on the garage are just that, and can mean anything. It is said that Porsche never exactly understood all fine details on why their car was such an unstoppable machine, but I would believe they knew how to set it up.
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The 956 was a "soft car" yes, and the teams didn't lose much time changing suspension setups no. Most assumed the factory got it right, and most of the work from other teams was done with just basic setup.

Teams that went the development route tried to get gains with wings at the front, since the car, as many group C cars, had a natural tendency for understeer, and was less pitch sensitive in general than formula cars.

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10-4, thanks for the quick reply Smile still, I will say that I found the 956 a bit less understeering than what I expected, even on default setup. I wonder where the balance will end up once I start pushing the envelope, I still don't feel close to the limits.

It was a pleasant surprise to also find a favourite of my own while browsing through all cars: The Porsche 935 Group 5! With +650 HP, it's a mighty beast to wheel, and handling is great, big improvement from the DRM Revival mod, those cars were fun but too fast.

I'm spending more and more time away from my sim lately, but whenever I can sit down and drive, I'm driving these cars, such a fun time :conduit:
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Gabriel Legnini wrote:
I will say that I found the 956 a bit less understeering than what I expected, even on default setup. 

I don't know how the car feels like in AMS, since I am unable to drive, but I can tell you how it was at Spa in the 1982 WEC season when I ran a factory 956 with Scott Urick.. It was hell lmao
The car was incredibly understeery, even when I turned the setup into the oversteer-machine of doom, so I do believe that it's intended to handle that way :D 
Too bad Scott crashed the car during the race, or else we would have won it

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still, I will say that I found the 956 a bit less understeering than what I expected, even on default setup. I wonder where the balance will end up once I start pushing the envelope, I still don't feel close to the limits.

If you crank up the rear wing enough you will almost lift the front wheels. The underbody is oversteery at minimum wing, but then you also have less overall downforce. To balance the car you will find out you need to go for understeer and if you want more downforce to control the car in qualy trim, you definitely will have the nose searching for the outside of the turn Smile

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More or less what I thought. Will keep on testing when time allows. TY Smile
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Alright, I've been doing more laps, totally in love with this Very Happy some things to report so far...

Mazda 717B: it has a weird issue with the engine sound as it rises past 7k RPM, it seems like there is an audio file switch that sounds like the car is decelerating. It's not noticeable on low gears where the acceleration is high, but as you climb through the gearbox, specially at the uphill straights on Kyalami, you catch that inmediately, and feels awkward, I was looking at my inputs for checking if there was an issue with my throttle Smile

Sauber C7: seems like the engine note is a bit low, I need to reduce other volumes like wind, tyres, etc, for getting it better. Nothing major, but it should be a bit louder IMO.

BMW M1: picking from the WSC 83 cars, the Team Castrol car for Kyalami has a grey windshield. The general one is fine.


Are the VLM tracks available for Automobilista? I'm dying to try some of these cars at Le Mans, Sebring and Fuji!
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I'm being disconnected all the time. Sometimes after 15 minutes, sometimes after 30 seconds on the server. AMS reinstalled, all mods deleted, only GTPC is in. I'm running Win10. It started at Indy, no other sim does it. Any idea what to do? Crying or Very sad

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PostSubject: Re: The GTPC-AMS bugs, glitches and feedback thread   The GTPC-AMS bugs, glitches and feedback thread - Page 4 Icon_minitimeSat 8 Jun 2019 - 11:29

It's only affecting you it seems. Maybe your having similar issues to what Francois had.

He opened the ports on his server and it solved the issue for him I believe.

François Remmen wrote:
my last option is this to open these ports of my router
i quess this will also count for rfacor now since the new server


  Automobilista - PC

       TCP: 34747,40001
       UDP: 8766,27016,34597,34697,40002


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Richard Coxon wrote:
It's only affecting you it seems. Maybe your having similar issues to what Francois had.

He opened the ports on his server and it solved the issue for him I believe

Okay, I followed this guide, but I also need to enter IP to enable the specific port. Do you know which IP should I enter? Thanks a lot.

https://www.tp-link.com/us/support/faq/134/

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PostSubject: Re: The GTPC-AMS bugs, glitches and feedback thread   The GTPC-AMS bugs, glitches and feedback thread - Page 4 Icon_minitimeSat 8 Jun 2019 - 18:33

i'd imagine this.

51.77.116.8

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Richard Coxon wrote:
i'd imagine this.

51.77.116.8

Error code: 26106
The IP address is not in the same subnet with LAN IP address. :smil20:

I'm also dowlnoading the latest windows updates. Though, something tells me it might do more harm than good...

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Might be best to PM Francois and see how he solved the issue, he may be able to tell you exactly when he did in better detail than myself.

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i simply opened the port individually in the port forward section in my router under a new game AMS
doing this with all other races that uses different last nr's.

in this case 34997

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I was watching some other cars today, and I constantly heard the screeching tyre noise, even in a straight line!

I got the notification in Q that Grant was riding onboard with me even though he was driving/had taken over the Sauber too scratch

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Turn the effect down, AMS has a habit of increasing certain sounds. I had to do the same.

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Even with a sound that shouldn't happen when you're driving in a straight line? After all, tyres shouldn't screech then Shocked

I didn't notice this one in any other mods or official content though.

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The reason for that tire screech is in the game's sound encoding. When the longitudinal and horizontal grip curves in the tires are too dissimilar in the part before the peak grip, the game seems to believe the tire is being stretched or  scrubbing from the point of view of the noise generation (Does not affect the physics though). Ricardo uses custom curves that cause that effect and it already happened in rFactor if you payed attention, but AMS as Richard says increases it and makes it more noticeable.

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