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 Round 1 - 1000 Km di Monza [Feb 12th]

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Arpad Vincze
Guillaume Siebert
Matthias Weber
Karel Marciniszyn
Thiago Canola
Petr Hlavac
Rob Swindells
Alessio Campigotto
Pascal Kalide
Martin Lacina
Michael Drechsler
Francisco Vazquez
Vadim Sadoshenko
Andre Lagunzad
Ludovic Tiengou
Alberto Ibañez
Caleb Marklein
Emmanuel Haas
Ben Paulet
Marek Liolias
Pascal Mikula
Jan Kowalski
David Jundt
Dana Schurer
Mick Chapman
Michal Janak
Jon Hawkins
François Remmen
Herman Berkhey
Alfredo Calzolari
Jukka Närhi
Raul Jereb
Jan Titz
Juha Bos
James Knowles
Yves Plaçais
Richard Coxon
Jason White
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Pascal Kalide
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Pascal Kalide


Number of posts : 20
Age : 23
Location : Germany
Registration date : 2017-01-26

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I had a crash after 122 laps...very frustrating  Crying or Very sad  Crying or Very sad  Crying or Very sad  Crying or Very sad It was a good race until that happens.
Looking forward to the next race!
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Michal Janak
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Age : 51
Location : Brno, Czech Republic
Registration date : 2010-03-25

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how many laps remain?
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Matthias Weber
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Number of posts : 520
Age : 40
Location : Remscheid, Germany
Registration date : 2013-08-06

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22 at the momenht
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Jason White
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Number of posts : 14725
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Location : Ferndale, MI USA
Registration date : 2011-12-25

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Race for 2nd place is a barn burner currently  bounce
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David Jundt
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David Jundt


Number of posts : 2647
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Location : Binningen, Switzerland
Registration date : 2012-07-14

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What's the rule to get points? Get across the line? % of the leader's laps?
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Jason White
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David Jundt wrote:
What's the rule to get points? Get across the line? % of the leader's laps?

You have to complete at least 52 laps to be eligible for points.
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David Jundt
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So, anyone that has done 52 laps(of the race) gets points?
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Jason White
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David Jundt wrote:
So, anyone that has done 52 laps(of the race) gets points?

For that particular car.
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James Knowles
Pro Driver
James Knowles


Number of posts : 757
Age : 54
Location : USA
Registration date : 2012-04-16

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Car got surprisingly loose on cold tires going into parabolica

Tried to swing the rear around but it his the front

But not much have been much life in engine as it expired almost immediately as I pulled out of the trap

Regardless 5th is mine Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

Fun race :-)
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Richard Coxon
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Location : Sheffield, England
Registration date : 2012-06-29

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David Jundt wrote:
What's the rule to get points? Get across the line? % of the leader's laps?

A car has to finish to be eligible for points. And for a driver to score points in that car, he must complete over 30% of the cars distance.
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Matthias Weber
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Matthias Weber


Number of posts : 520
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Location : Remscheid, Germany
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O M G - 3 Laps to go, poor Mick pale
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Jason White
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SHOCKER!  affraid  Speechless over here  Crying or Very sad
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David Jaques
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Number of posts : 512
Age : 43
Location : Canada
Registration date : 2013-03-28

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mick was doing great to keep it on track with multiple brake failures, but in the end, NO brakes at all makes it impossible. gutted so close to the end.

with that said, not sure what to do different other than taking it even easier on the brake pedal than we did, pressure was already reduced to 80%, should it have been lower? what else can you do to save the brakes? looks like we weren't the only ones to have an issue.

dave
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massive brake problems on our side, too

omg what a showdown
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Richard Wilks
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Location : Portugal
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I assure you all we will be looking into the brakes question.

Thank you all for attending and running this race, and i promise that i will correct a few things for the next one.
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Yves Plaçais


Number of posts : 1981
Age : 63
Location : Angers, France.
Registration date : 2008-12-18

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Richard Wilks wrote:
I assure you all we will be looking into the brakes question.

Thank you all for attending and running this race, and i promise that i will correct a few things for the next one.

:top:
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Number of posts : 1837
Age : 31
Location : Gräv, Sweden
Registration date : 2012-12-10

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We too have Brake Problems, I lost my 3rd brake when I lost my front left wheel after the front right failed going into the last turn Sad

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But at least 4th or 3rd place just now :D

Big condolences to Mick and crew especially and to all that crashed out Sad
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David Jaques wrote:
mick was doing great to keep it on track with multiple brake failures, but in the end, NO brakes at all makes it impossible.  gutted so close to the end.

with that said, not sure what to do different other than taking it even easier on the brake pedal than we did, pressure was already reduced to 80%, should it have been lower?  what else can you do to save the brakes?  looks like we weren't the only ones to have an issue.

dave

Did you swap drivers? Did it change nothing for you?

I am also sorry to Juha, he just might have lost the tenths behind me, I didn't know the race for the win was going to be so close and the decision just ahead Crying or Very sad
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David Jaques
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Number of posts : 512
Age : 43
Location : Canada
Registration date : 2013-03-28

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Richard Wilks wrote:
I assure you all we will be looking into the brakes question.

Thank you all for attending and running this race, and i promise that i will correct a few things for the next one.

much appreciated!  dont get me wrong, i pretty hard the first 2 stints, so in hindsight, taking it easy the entire race might have been enough, but with no information available in testing it makes it nearly impossible to predict.  at least with f1 1991 it displays the amount left in the garage after each practice run, so you can calculate a wear rate and see if you will make it.

dave

PS> Jundt the first of the brakes let go (i think front right) only a couple laps after mick switched into the car.  didnt think to swap at that point, it was fueled to the finish.  if it does make a difference swapping, then that is quite interesting.


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Juha Bos
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Juha Bos


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Age : 37
Location : Belgium
Registration date : 2016-05-11

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David Jundt wrote:
I am also sorry to Juha, he just might have lost the tenths behind me, I didn't know the race for the win was going to be so close and the decision just ahead Crying or Very sad

No worries. I'll live to race another day. Wink
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David Jundt
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David Jundt


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Age : 34
Location : Binningen, Switzerland
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I am not sure how and why, but our WM Peugeot got his brakes back after either the (long) repair stop or swapping drivers.

I nearly beat my fastest lap near the end, so they were suddenly fine scratch
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James Knowles
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Richard Wilks wrote:
I assure you all we will be looking into the brakes question.

Thank you all for attending and running this race, and i promise that i will correct a few things for the next one.

BTW Richard I was filling with a full tank and changing tires in 16 seconds...

I must have been given the F1 pit crew for the 512...
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Martin Audran
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David Jundt wrote:
I am not sure how and why, but our WM Peugeot got his brakes back after either the (long) repair stop or swapping drivers.

I nearly beat my fastest lap near the end, so they were suddenly fine scratch

The car is reset during a driver swap. It's a bug from rFactor. But as soon as the game records a contact for the second driver, the car is damaged again as it was for the first driver before the swap. (obviously if a tire was missing and was fixed, you will not lose it, but the engine, aero etc will be damaged again).


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Alberto Ibañez
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Thanks for the reports, we will be working on all that. I should anyway say that some of these oddities are actually inherited from the original VLM mod and were not subject to changes in the new physics by Ricardo. They were supposed to be correct - but alas no :smil20:
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Martin Audran wrote:

The car is reset during a driver swap. It's a bug from rFactor. But as soon as the game records a contact for the second driver, the car is damaged again as it was for the first driver before the swap. (obviously if a tire was missing and was fixed, you will not lose it, but the engine, aero etc will be damaged again).

So...

if I tap a barrier very lightly, I'll get the "no brakes"-issue right away again??! Shocked

And with engine and aero damage, you mean technical but not visual?


Because I'd be worried if one light tap would show the whole body as damaged again...
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