Round 12 - Österreichring (Sep 4th)

so tested surteese and in Q trim 1 25, 447 and in race trim after 5 laps times better than i McLaren. with low fuel 1 37,3 but tyres with only few laps , so it look like in Surtees maybe iin race a could be better,

maybe i didnt tune McLaren good for race

I checked the pileup in lap 1. It was brutal. The initial issue started with Ray's half spin, a hit from behind and blocking of the left side of the road. Poor Jason was just standing there, waiting for the death blow. And it came when Havlik went around Zubov. Konstantin got a big wiggle and pinballed Miroslav right into the bunch of standing cars. Wow. No reaction time for anyone. Had this happened for real, we'd have multiple fatalities. Miroslav and Jason would be dead for sure (140kmh impact). David Sabre suffered a frontal and subsequent side hit, also minimal chance to survive. Raul and Philippe would be extremly lucky just to make it to hospital for years of recovery, James Knowles' legs shattered into pieces... Sometimes i wish i could race for real, but then bad things happen and i'm glad we all can meet again next week on virtual tracks..

Didier Conjeaud wrote:

Etant déjà moi-même en mode dilettante pour avoir subi les mêmes problèmes que Yves au Ricard et à Brands Hatch.......j'avais "préparé" cette course à minima justement :-)

Effectivement, Didier, j'ai pensé à tes diverses mésaventures quand cela m'est arrivé, ça m'a un peu consolé en me disant que jouer les Calimeros de service ne servirait à rien et que cela arrive à tout le monde (de se faire percuter au départ, ou bien de se rater et de percuter), bref un fait de course.

C'était d'autant plus frustrant que, si tu regardes le screenshot de la chicane, Jan est en passe de passer 3, et moi je suis 5, alors que nous sommes tous les deux partis 13 et 14ème ! Sur le replay, on fait le départ du siècle !

En tout cas, content pour toi que tu aies pris du plaisir sur cette course.

Petr Hlavac wrote:

I checked the pileup in lap 1. It was brutal. The initial issue started with Ray's half spin, a hit from behind and blocking of the left side of the road. Poor Jason was just standing there, waiting for the death blow. And it came when Havlik went around Zubov. Konstantin got a big wiggle and pinballed Miroslav right into the bunch of standing cars. Wow. No reaction time for anyone. Had this happened for real, we'd have multiple fatalities. Miroslav and Jason would be dead for sure (140kmh impact). David Sabre suffered a frontal and subsequent side hit, also minimal chance to survive. Raul and Philippe would be extremly lucky just to make it to hospital for years of recovery, James Knowles' legs shattered into pieces... Sometimes i wish i could race for real, but then bad things happen and i'm glad we all can meet again next week on virtual tracks..

TBH I think that 99,9% of us lack the talent and would never qualify to drive a 1978 Formula one car ... so mother nature actually protects us from such things

RIP Jason and Miroslav

The beauty of sim racing I suppose, everyone walks away. Perhaps we should get super realistic and say they cannot race anymore 

I suppose Jason had kept to realism since his Brabham is now free. 

Richard Coxon wrote:

Perhaps we should get super realistic and say they cannot race anymore :lol!

Actually, i was thinking a few years ago, that it would be kind of cool, if a sim was able to estimate the extent of injuries and healing time. Then you could go to settings and choose "Recovery: x100, x50, x10, Real. In case of death your Game Account would be scrapped and never allowed to use again Or if you used a sim rig, it could electrocute you based on severity of the impact    Just kidding

Now seriously Talking about realism, there's one aspect of realism i kind of miss here at HSO. I'm talking about qualifying. Back in GPL times, a member of our community invented the "HRQ rule" (Hamy's Realistic Qualifying). The idea was simple - you MUST bring the car back to pits even during quali. If you crash, run out of fuel, kill the engine... bad luck, your quali is over. Maybe this could be a topic for discussion...?

It could but it would be hard to police without the use of an tracing program. But yes it is cool.

AWESOME livestream

congrats to Richard and Pascal ( everyone know here I was not a fan of Pascal but great job mate )

and EXCELLENT job of my Ben for camera , inpressive work

Petr Hlavac wrote:

Now seriously Talking about realism, there's one aspect of realism i kind of miss here at HSO. I'm talking about qualifying. Back in GPL times, a member of our community invented the "HRQ rule" (Hamy's Realistic Qualifying). The idea was simple - you MUST bring the car back to pits even during quali. If you crash, run out of fuel, kill the engine... bad luck, your quali is over. Maybe this could be a topic for discussion...?

I believe rFactor can be configured to force drivers to stop in the pits to change tires and refuel. If you press ESC and restart from the pits, you keep your old tires and the remaining amount of fuel. Not sure about the fuel though.

Michal Janak wrote:

so tested surteese and in Q trim 1 25, 447   and in race trim after 5 laps times better than i McLaren. with low fuel 1 37,3 but tyres with only few laps , so it look like in Surtees maybe iin race a could be better,

maybe i didnt tune McLaren good for race  

I can upload my setup later, but i've driven the McLaren 3 times before and it had been way more competitive.

1:25,447??? On what track? 4.5 Seconds faster than the Lotus?

To be fair this has been the worst track for the McLaren M26 so far.

I spent, well, not much time this time around but I spent a lot of time on the car at Brands which has been the closest circuit to this so far this season and no trick I learned of then or that I've known since a long time ago, about, worked around here.

I was quicker in the M23 around this circuit compared to the M26 and that should be completely impossible

Greg Goissen wrote:

AWESOME  livestream

congrats to Richard and Pascal ( everyone know here I was not a fan of Pascal but great job mate )

and EXCELLENT job of my Ben for camera , inpressive  work  

Thx to you and Peter for the show you gave us.

Matthias Weber wrote:

Michal Janak wrote:

so tested surteese and in Q trim 1 25, 447   and in race trim after 5 laps times better than i McLaren. with low fuel 1 37,3 but tyres with only few laps , so it look like in Surtees maybe iin race a could be better,

maybe i didnt tune McLaren good for race  

I can upload my setup later, but i've driven the McLaren 3 times before and it had been way more competitive.

1:25,447???  On what track? 4.5 Seconds faster than the Lotus?

oh, mistake, 1:35,447 is right