| Round 12 - Österreichring (Sep 4th) | |
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+32Bob Wilson Simon Wattman Mick Chapman David Jaques Greg Hunt Philippe Martinelli Richard Coxon Florkin Marc Konstantin Zubov Yves Plaçais Raymond Riddall Vincent Beretta Emmanuel Haas Miroslav Havlík Petr Hlavac Cláudio Augusto David Sabre Matthias Weber Martin Lacina Raul Jereb Gérard Ryon Didier Conjeaud Jonatan Acerclinth Jacob Fredriksson Jan Kowalski James Knowles Dana Schurer Jason Fitch Michal Janak Michael Drechsler Juha Bos Jason White 36 posters |
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Michal Janak Racing Legend
Number of posts : 1082 Age : 51 Location : Brno, Czech Republic Registration date : 2010-03-25
| Subject: Re: Round 12 - Österreichring (Sep 4th) Wed 7 Sep 2016 - 0:57 | |
| so tested surteese and in Q trim 1 25, 447 and in race trim after 5 laps times better than i McLaren. with low fuel 1 37,3 but tyres with only few laps , so it look like in Surtees maybe iin race a could be better,
maybe i didnt tune McLaren good for race | |
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Petr Hlavac Pro Driver
Number of posts : 873 Age : 41 Location : Brno, Czech Republic Registration date : 2015-01-11
| Subject: Re: Round 12 - Österreichring (Sep 4th) Wed 7 Sep 2016 - 8:20 | |
| I checked the pileup in lap 1. It was brutal. The initial issue started with Ray's half spin, a hit from behind and blocking of the left side of the road. Poor Jason was just standing there, waiting for the death blow. And it came when Havlik went around Zubov. Konstantin got a big wiggle and pinballed Miroslav right into the bunch of standing cars. Wow. No reaction time for anyone. Had this happened for real, we'd have multiple fatalities. Miroslav and Jason would be dead for sure (140kmh impact). David Sabre suffered a frontal and subsequent side hit, also minimal chance to survive. Raul and Philippe would be extremly lucky just to make it to hospital for years of recovery, James Knowles' legs shattered into pieces... Sometimes i wish i could race for real, but then bad things happen and i'm glad we all can meet again next week on virtual tracks..
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Yves Plaçais Racing Legend
Number of posts : 1981 Age : 63 Location : Angers, France. Registration date : 2008-12-18
| Subject: Re: Round 12 - Österreichring (Sep 4th) Wed 7 Sep 2016 - 8:22 | |
| - Didier Conjeaud wrote:
Etant déjà moi-même en mode dilettante pour avoir subi les mêmes problèmes que Yves au Ricard et à Brands Hatch.......j'avais "préparé" cette course à minima justement :-)
Effectivement, Didier, j'ai pensé à tes diverses mésaventures quand cela m'est arrivé, ça m'a un peu consolé en me disant que jouer les Calimeros de service ne servirait à rien et que cela arrive à tout le monde (de se faire percuter au départ, ou bien de se rater et de percuter), bref un fait de course. C'était d'autant plus frustrant que, si tu regardes le screenshot de la chicane, Jan est en passe de passer 3, et moi je suis 5, alors que nous sommes tous les deux partis 13 et 14ème ! Sur le replay, on fait le départ du siècle ! En tout cas, content pour toi que tu aies pris du plaisir sur cette course. | |
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Alberto Ibañez Racing Legend
Number of posts : 16788 Age : 121 Location : International Simracing Organisation Registration date : 2010-09-17
| Subject: Re: Round 12 - Österreichring (Sep 4th) Wed 7 Sep 2016 - 8:47 | |
| - Petr Hlavac wrote:
- I checked the pileup in lap 1. It was brutal. The initial issue started with Ray's half spin, a hit from behind and blocking of the left side of the road. Poor Jason was just standing there, waiting for the death blow. And it came when Havlik went around Zubov. Konstantin got a big wiggle and pinballed Miroslav right into the bunch of standing cars. Wow. No reaction time for anyone. Had this happened for real, we'd have multiple fatalities. Miroslav and Jason would be dead for sure (140kmh impact). David Sabre suffered a frontal and subsequent side hit, also minimal chance to survive. Raul and Philippe would be extremly lucky just to make it to hospital for years of recovery, James Knowles' legs shattered into pieces... Sometimes i wish i could race for real, but then bad things happen and i'm glad we all can meet again next week on virtual tracks..
TBH I think that 99,9% of us lack the talent and would never qualify to drive a 1978 Formula one car ... so mother nature actually protects us from such things | |
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Richard Coxon Racing Legend
Number of posts : 16590 Age : 37 Location : Sheffield, England Registration date : 2012-06-29
| Subject: Re: Round 12 - Österreichring (Sep 4th) Wed 7 Sep 2016 - 10:42 | |
| RIP Jason and Miroslav The beauty of sim racing I suppose, everyone walks away. Perhaps we should get super realistic and say they cannot race anymore I suppose Jason had kept to realism since his Brabham is now free. | |
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Petr Hlavac Pro Driver
Number of posts : 873 Age : 41 Location : Brno, Czech Republic Registration date : 2015-01-11
| Subject: Re: Round 12 - Österreichring (Sep 4th) Wed 7 Sep 2016 - 11:45 | |
| - Richard Coxon wrote:
- Perhaps we should get super realistic and say they cannot race anymore :lol!
Actually, i was thinking a few years ago, that it would be kind of cool, if a sim was able to estimate the extent of injuries and healing time. Then you could go to settings and choose "Recovery: x100, x50, x10, Real. In case of death your Game Account would be scrapped and never allowed to use again Or if you used a sim rig, it could electrocute you based on severity of the impact Just kidding | |
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Petr Hlavac Pro Driver
Number of posts : 873 Age : 41 Location : Brno, Czech Republic Registration date : 2015-01-11
| Subject: Re: Round 12 - Österreichring (Sep 4th) Wed 7 Sep 2016 - 11:53 | |
| Now seriously Talking about realism, there's one aspect of realism i kind of miss here at HSO. I'm talking about qualifying. Back in GPL times, a member of our community invented the "HRQ rule" (Hamy's Realistic Qualifying). The idea was simple - you MUST bring the car back to pits even during quali. If you crash, run out of fuel, kill the engine... bad luck, your quali is over. Maybe this could be a topic for discussion...? | |
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Richard Coxon Racing Legend
Number of posts : 16590 Age : 37 Location : Sheffield, England Registration date : 2012-06-29
| Subject: Re: Round 12 - Österreichring (Sep 4th) Wed 7 Sep 2016 - 14:11 | |
| It could but it would be hard to police without the use of an tracing program. But yes it is cool. | |
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Greg Hunt Racing Legend
Number of posts : 4322 Age : 40 Location : HOSSEGOR Registration date : 2010-03-25
| Subject: Re: Round 12 - Österreichring (Sep 4th) Wed 7 Sep 2016 - 15:11 | |
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Guillaume Siebert League Owner
Number of posts : 13827 Age : 37 Location : Paris, France Registration date : 2008-09-08
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Matthias Weber Pro Driver
Number of posts : 520 Age : 40 Location : Remscheid, Germany Registration date : 2013-08-06
| Subject: Re: Round 12 - Österreichring (Sep 4th) Wed 7 Sep 2016 - 17:43 | |
| - Michal Janak wrote:
- so tested surteese and in Q trim 1 25, 447 and in race trim after 5 laps times better than i McLaren. with low fuel 1 37,3 but tyres with only few laps , so it look like in Surtees maybe iin race a could be better,
maybe i didnt tune McLaren good for race I can upload my setup later, but i've driven the McLaren 3 times before and it had been way more competitive. 1:25,447??? On what track? 4.5 Seconds faster than the Lotus? | |
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Jonatan Acerclinth Racing Legend
Number of posts : 1837 Age : 31 Location : Gräv, Sweden Registration date : 2012-12-10
| Subject: Re: Round 12 - Österreichring (Sep 4th) Wed 7 Sep 2016 - 17:54 | |
| To be fair this has been the worst track for the McLaren M26 so far. I spent, well, not much time this time around but I spent a lot of time on the car at Brands which has been the closest circuit to this so far this season and no trick I learned of then or that I've known since a long time ago, about, worked around here. I was quicker in the M23 around this circuit compared to the M26 and that should be completely impossible | |
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Ben Paulet Racing Legend
Number of posts : 8291 Age : 50 Location : Cagnes sur mer France Registration date : 2009-07-29
| Subject: Re: Round 12 - Österreichring (Sep 4th) Wed 7 Sep 2016 - 23:13 | |
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Michal Janak Racing Legend
Number of posts : 1082 Age : 51 Location : Brno, Czech Republic Registration date : 2010-03-25
| Subject: Re: Round 12 - Österreichring (Sep 4th) Sun 11 Sep 2016 - 14:59 | |
| - Matthias Weber wrote:
- Michal Janak wrote:
- so tested surteese and in Q trim 1 25, 447 and in race trim after 5 laps times better than i McLaren. with low fuel 1 37,3 but tyres with only few laps , so it look like in Surtees maybe iin race a could be better,
maybe i didnt tune McLaren good for race I can upload my setup later, but i've driven the McLaren 3 times before and it had been way more competitive.
1:25,447??? On what track? 4.5 Seconds faster than the Lotus?
oh, mistake, 1:35,447 is right | |
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