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Guillaume Siebert
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Carl Larrad
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Marcelo Aiello
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What are your favourite racing days for 2014 ?
Sunday and Wednesday
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Sunday and Thursday
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Frank Verplanken
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PostSubject: ** 2014 Season - Please Read **   ** 2014 Season - Please Read ** Icon_minitimeWed 30 Oct 2013 - 3:34

Version françoise, voir ci-dessous.

OK so it's that time of the year again when we must start and think about the next season Smile

A few changes are happening behind the scenes and a few points need to be explained a bit. Your vote is also sought after on one of these subjects. I tried to be as consise as possible, but thanks for taking the time to read this announcement Smile.

The financial situation

As you all probably know now (see here if not), Guillaume is following Antoine into retirement at the end of the present season. This means we are down from four admins when we created HSO to two for 2014. While we (Martin and me) are committed to running a 2014 season following the standards of the previous HSO ones on the sporting side, the financial aspect of it all is more problematic. Simply put, since the costs have not changed and the number of investors has been divided by two = each investor must put up twice the amount he initially had to :jp:.

The costs of running the league (server, site, forum) amount to around €1,000 for the year. As of today, assuming these costs by our lonesomes is more than we can afford. Donations from many of our members in the past years have always been a great help for us :chinois:. So, with the deadline to pay the bills approaching, we humbly remind you that you can help HSO live by making a donation, even a symbolic one, via the Paypal button on the site.

Thursdays

As the UEFA did not answer to our request to postpone every football game in general, and Champions League ones in particular, from Wednesday to Thursday nights, we will make this move ourselves at HSO Smile. There have been several races in the past which have suffered of a low attendance because of an important football game playing on the telly, so we have been contemplating a change of our weekday race night for a while. If a vast majority of our members agrees, we will make this move in 2014. So please gives us your advice and vote in the poll attached to this thread. Thanks Smile

HSO Americas

In a move initiated by HSO regular Mike Becnel, we will try and expand the league in the Americas next year. The idea is to provide HSO quality races to simracers in that part of the world, at a time more convenient than the ones they have to commit to for our European-based events. The HSO Americas part of the league will run its own schedule, with some of the series mirroring that of the main league and possibly others exclusively raced in the American part of the league.

A new category of the forum dedicated to this new venture will soon be made public. The complete program of HSO Americas will be revealed in a few weeks, together with the rest of the 2014 HSO program. The first step towards this move will be an Open event to be announced in the next days and following the pattern we'd like to establish for 2014 : it will be held twice the same day - once at European time and another at American time.

Mike will be in charge of the day-to-day running of HSO Americas, with another of our esteemed members from the USA, Jason White, as co-admin.

The name "Americas" says what is says : we'd like as much as possible to try and gather simracers from both North and Latin/South America, so don't hesitate to spread the good news if you know people in these parts :D!

2014 Season

It's too early to divulgate any particularities, but here are the general lines of the plan for next year :

- Two races per week on Thursday and Sunday nights.

- rFactor mods : HGTTC 1.95, Touring Car Legends, 1987 Group C, 1972 F5000, 1976 F.Atlantic.

Other mods will be used, including hopefully the excellent ones actually being developped by our dear HSO members Ben Paulet and Jason White Cool! The new 1965 F1 mod is another strong possibility, and rFactor2 will hopefully have enough historic content for us to race with it.

There will be only one yearly championship, with the other series run either at the first or second semestre. Several Open events will be held as usual, including some old school endurance races.

The complete 2014 program will be made available in a few weeks time, so stay tuned for another season of time travelling through racing history with HSO !

Thanks for your attention,

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Voici le moment de l'année ou nous devons commencer à penser à la saison prochaine Smile

Quelques changements interviennent dans les coulisses et certains points doivent être précisés. Votre vote est aussi demandé pour l'un de ces points. Je vais essayer d'être le plus concis possible, mais merci de prendre le temps de lire cette annonce Smile

Situation financière

Comme vous le savez probablement, (sinon, regardez ici), Guillaume va suivre le chemin d'Antoine et se retirer à la fin de la saison actuelle. Cela veut dire que des quatre admins que nous étions aux origines d'HSO, nous ne sommes plus que deux. Alors que du côté sportif, nous (Frank et moi) nous attelons à vous proposer une saison 2014 conforme aux standards des précédentes saisons chez HSO, le côté financier est plus problématique. Pour faire simple, comme les coûts n'ont pas changé mais que le nombre d'investisseurs est divisé par deux, chaque investisseur restant doit verser le double du montant initial.

Les coûts pour faire tourner la ligue (serveur, site, forum) sont approximativement de 1000€ à l'année. Assumer cette somme nous est actuellement impossible. Les dons de nombreux de nos membres nous ont beaucoup aidé les années passées :chinois:. Comme la date de paiement des factures approche, nous vous rappelons modestement que vous pouvez aider HSO à poursuivre l'aventure avec un don, même symbolique, via le bouton Paypal sur le site.

Les jeudis

Comme l'UEFA n'a pas répondu à notre requête visant à déplacer les matchs de football en général, et ceux de la ligue des champions en particulier, du mercredi au jeudi, nous allons plutôt déplacer nos courses Smile. Il y a eu quelques courses par le passé qui ont souffert d'une faible participation à cause d'un match important diffusé à la télé, donc nous envisageons depuis quelques temps un changement au niveau de nos jours de courses. Si une grande majorité de nos membres est d'accord, nous allons changer du mercredi au jeudi en 2014. Donc s'il vous plait, donnez nous votre avis en répondant au sondage attaché à ce topic. Merci Smile.

HSO Americas

A l'initiative de Mike Becnel, membre régulier d'HSO, nous allons essayer d’étendre la ligue aux Amériques l'année prochaine. L'idée est de fournir des courses de qualité HSO aux simracers de cette partie du monde, à des horaires plus convenables que ceux qu'ils supportent lors de nos événements européens. HSO Americas aura son propre calendrier, avec certains championnats reprenant ceux de la ligue principale, et éventuellement certains qui seront exclusifs à la partie américaine.

Une nouvelle partie du forum dédiée à cette nouvelle aventure va être rendue publique sous peu. Le programme complet d'HSO Americas va être révélé dans quelques semaines, en même temps que le reste du programme HSO pour 2014. La première étape en amont de ce lancement sera un Open qui va être annoncé dans les prochains jours, et qui suivra le schema que nous voulons établir pour 2014: il aura lieu deux fois le même jour, une fois aux horaires européens, et une fois aux horaires américains.

Mike sera en charge de la gestion d'HSO Americas, avec un autre de nos estimés membres comme co-admin, Jason White.

Le nom "Americas" veut bien dire ce qu'il veut dire: nous souhaitons autant que possible réunir des simracers d'Amérique du nord et d'Amérique latine/du sud, donc n'hésitez pas à répandre la nouvelle si vous connaissez du monde dans ces régions :D!

Saison 2014

Il est trop tôt pour vous en dévoiler les détails, mais voici les lignes générales de nos projets pour l'année prochaine:

- Deux courses par semaine, une le jeudi et une le dimanche.

- Les mods rFactor suivants: HGTTC 1.95, Touring Car Legends, 1987 Group C, 1972 F5000, 1976 F. Atlantic.

D'autres mods seront utilisés dont, nous espérons, les excellents mods développés par nos chers membres Ben Paulet et Jason White Cool! Le nouveau mod F1 65 est également fortement envisagé, et rFactor2 aura, nous espérons, assez de contenu pour que nous commencions à rouler avec.

Il n'y aura qu'un seul championnat à l'année, avec en parallèle les autres séries qui se dérouleront soit au premier soit au second semestre. Comme d'habitude, quelques opens seront également organisé, dont des courses d'endurance.

Le programme complet de 2014 sera disponible dans quelques semaines, donc restez connectés pour une nouvelle saison de voyages à travers l'histoire avec HSO!

Merci de votre attention :hello:

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Le jeudi, y'a l'UEFA Europa League :D Perso ca m'arrangerait bien que ca reste le mercredi tiens.

Pour ce qui est de rF2, pour l'instant notre espoir de mods histo se porterait sur la F1 91 (encore) ou l'IndyCar 1995. rF2 histo, c'est pas encore gagné Neutral 

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I have a rather busy real life, so I am not even sure if I will be able to race during the week (Thus I did not vote in the poll), but you can count with my financial and personal support Cool 

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Les voyages proposés pour 2014 sont à mon goût Very Happy

J'attends le programme avec impatiente  

J'ai voté pour le jeudi à la place du mercredi, du temps lointain de la BCRL l'on avait connu ce même problème de disponibilité les mercredi soir d'ou l'adoption du jeudi soir et de ce fait les pilotes etaient beaucoup plus présents Wink 

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Doesn't really affect me which day we race on in the week, but I purely voted for Thursday because as you said, More chance of more people being present.

I'm guessing a F1 mod of some kind will be used for the yearly series, And as for Rf2, Not seen much stuff for it (mods) But I ain't been looking as my computer cries like a girl when it tries to run it!

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Arf, jeudi : fini pour moi les courses HSO ! Crying or Very sad

Ce jour-là, c'est musique ! (comme le lundi, vendredi, et souvent le dimanche, etc, etc...)
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Given a donation just to help out, not much but something to say thank you for putting on these great championships! Definitely something different compared to what most rFactor leagues give you.

Because of commitments to other leagues, and after taking a strong liking to racing regularly on iRacing, I'll only be around for a few series. Another TCL would definitely interest me after having to miss the previous one you guys had, and any F1 series I'll be highly interested in. Smile

As an Arsenal fan, I doubt the Champions League problem will worry me for much longer unless we can get revenge on Dortmund and keep Napoli at bay. Laughing 

Just my 2 cents anyway.
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mercredi ou jeudi je m en moque , je n aime pas le foot moi et je .... sur les footeux :langue: :langue: :rigol: 
( sauf mon benou que je pardonne :D  ) donc je ne vote pas

don courant debut novembre , vous n avez pas un RIB ? car filer une partie du don a Paypal ca me saoule un peu ... :hello:

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I was looking to reduce my participation for next season, as there are some important championships going on.

If the races were on Thursday for example, which would clash with GPVWC&some other championships, it would rule me out of most races. Not so sure about Sundays.

I do hope that HSO will be healthy next year again, as you won't find another league with historic racing as easy as here. Thank you for all the racing in 2013 already HSO Smile 

I am still waiting on the SRM F1 1990 HE mod by the way, I hope the creators will do a good job with it.

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Greg Goissen wrote:

don courant debut novembre , vous n avez pas un RIB ? car filer une partie du don a Paypal ca me saoule un peu ... :hello:
Si celà n'a pas changé tu as la possibilité d'envoyer un chèque à Martin, c'est la façon dont je procède
A confirmer par Martin Wink 

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Exact, pour ceux qui préfèrent, me MP Smile 

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Sundays are always inconsistent for me, and I already have other sim comittments for Wednesdays and Thursdays. I appreciate the efforts for an Americas series, and I especially love the HSO mods and the support of this community. Unfortunately it looks like my continued participation may be limited.
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as I can do to donate. is there any account?

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http://www.historicsimracing.org/index.php/fr/index

Paypal button is on that page for donations. Thank you in advance! Very Happy 

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Well firstly i am very excited that Plans are being laid out for 2014 ...

I Voted for Thursday as it seemed more acceptable to others but to be honest i'm ok
for Wednesday also my only problem is sometimes i miss qualifying as i get home late .

I know and respect that HSO has always been about Historical correctness but sometimes
i think this may limit us to the mods that we can use ...

It's great News that we have some new mods coming through WIP so will look forward to those
but i'm also very excited that we might consider the 1965 mod .. The HE version that F1sr are
racing at the moment with the latest physics i think  is very good
and i believe we could run a full season with this ... :top: 

I Believe this would be a very popular choice Wink 

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Forgot to mention i think it will be a great idea for HSO going into the Americas and i can think
of no better people than Mike and Jason to Help run it .. Wink

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Mercredi, pour pouvoir continuer à batailler avec Yves :conduit:


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Regarding the poll, it's 14-14 at this time (with Vincent's mistake :aie: )

We need a few more votes guys :hello: 

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Martin Audran wrote:

We need a few more votes guys :hello: 
Which of days you command me to vote Martin!?! For that day will be given to my voice! Smile 

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Thank you Vadim but it would not be fair :D 

Anyway I did not vote myself Smile 

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You have the deciding vote then Martin! Wink 

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Well in fact if we let you the choice, it's because Frank and me could be available on both days Smile 

So we want your opinions, ours doesn't really matter Smile

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Another thing I was thinking, If we did say an F1 season as the year long series, When would the 1st Qualifying session be? Or would we just have the one on a Saturday?

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Who said there will be a F1 championship next year? Wink Maybe, maybe not, F1 is not a mandatory thing Smile

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