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 Round 10 - Brands Hatch (Jun 5th)

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David Jaques
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Mick Chapman
Alberto Ibañez
Jason Fitch
Richard Wilks
Miroslav Havlík
Didier Conjeaud
Vincent Beretta
Greg Hunt
Gérard Ryon
Raymond Riddall
Martin Lacina
Jan Kowalski
Mike Becnel
Matt Geddes
Jacob Fredriksson
David Sabre
Michael Drechsler
Emmanuel Haas
Raul Jereb
Pascal Mikula
Michal Janak
Jonatan Acerclinth
Dana Schurer
Jason White
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Martin Lacina
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Martin Lacina


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Location : Czech Republic
Registration date : 2016-02-16

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I have a one question. Do somebody use during downshifting and braking by right foot heel or toe of your right foot to rev the engine and stabilize the car? Of course together with the clutch. When i see some videos on youtube of this technique it looks very interesting but very difficult to use. I think i need a lot a lot of training.
Meantime i will use the left foot braking, clutch only when upshifting and no clutch during downshifting with a little blip of the throttle.
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Michal Janak
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Martin Lacina wrote:
I have a one question. Do somebody use during downshifting and braking by right foot heel or toe of your right foot to rev the engine and stabilize the car? Of course together with  the clutch. When i see some videos on youtube of this technique it looks very interesting but very difficult to use. I think i need a lot a lot of training.
Meantime i will use the left foot braking, clutch only when upshifting and no clutch during downshifting with a little blip of the throttle.

I have clutch short time so on downshifts i still brake by left foot and right use for rev engine to stabilize, no clutch atm , clutch i use only for upshift,

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Richard Wilks
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Number of posts : 2212
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Registration date : 2015-01-07

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I do that, i use heel and toe.

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Jan Kowalski
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Jan Kowalski


Number of posts : 777
Age : 32
Location : Germany
Registration date : 2008-11-28

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i use left foot brake and only throttle blip with right foot when downshifting to stabilize my rear. Someone know about time differences (made by rfactor) between using clutch or no clutch? Heel and toe would be more historical but less fast in rFactor i guess?

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Martin Lacina
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Martin Lacina


Number of posts : 475
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Location : Czech Republic
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I think the same but maybe some top fastest drivers tell us. Maybe we would be suprised.
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Michal Janak
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only 1 day i was on top (Hotlaps) and now 2 secs, where i lost them scratch

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Jason Fitch
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Jason Fitch


Number of posts : 664
Age : 43
Location : Frankfort, IN
Registration date : 2015-04-18

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I'll take the #40 McLaren please.

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Michael Drechsler
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Michael Drechsler


Number of posts : 671
Age : 44
Location : Aachen, Germany
Registration date : 2016-03-11

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#40 Melchester Racing McLaren for me, please :conduit:

Someone's gotta fill the last spot on the grid :D

Edit: Argh, a couple of seconds too slow...

Edit 2: I'll have the #31, then, please Smile
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Jason White
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Jason White


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Location : Ferndale, MI USA
Registration date : 2011-12-25

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Michael Drechsler wrote:
I'll have the #31, then, please Smile

Ok

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Michal Janak
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Michal Janak


Number of posts : 1077
Age : 49
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For Martin Lacina

excuse poor quality, first atempt to get video by web camera and mix it with AVI ffrom Rfactor and finaly the youtube degradet it once more

it is for show the speed of shifting , video of shifting is from other lap, not the same like RF replay , so there is little time difference


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Jacob Fredriksson
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Jacob Fredriksson


Number of posts : 1047
Age : 33
Location : Sweden
Registration date : 2014-01-15

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Can't attend sadly.  Sad

Will be back at Hockenheim!

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Alberto Ibañez
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Number of posts : 16788
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Location : International Simracing Organisation
Registration date : 2010-09-17

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Michal Janak wrote:
For Martin Lacina

excuse poor quality, first atempt to get video by web camera and mix it with AVI ffrom Rfactor and finaly the youtube degradet it once more

it is for show the speed of shifting , video of shifting is from other lap, not the same like RF replay , so there is little time difference


Very nice Michal, only thing is you are using a normal H pattern, but race cars generally have (F1 did back then) a dog-leg pattern with 1st gear left-down. You should try it, makes shifting quicker because you have only once to go in echelon Smile

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Jonatan Acerclinth
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Jonatan Acerclinth


Number of posts : 1837
Age : 29
Location : Gräv, Sweden
Registration date : 2012-12-10

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Alberto Ibañez wrote:


Very nice Michal, only thing is you are using a normal H pattern, but race cars generally have (F1 did back then) a dog-leg pattern with 1st gear left-down. You should try it, makes shifting quicker because you have only once to go in echelon Smile
That depends on Preference as well mate :chinois:

While I know that racecars of the time used DogLeg Gearboxes, and I've tried using it for about 2 months when just driving around having fun, I couldn't get my head around it (probably because my gearbox is mounted far too high at the moment) so for me, going from 4th to 5th in the DogLeg 5 Speed is extremely awkward, I often end up missing the gear because I can't put enough sideways preassure on it to go in cleanly. :doh:

So in my case, I use a "Normal" 5 speed when running in cars with such a gearbox. This is also one of the reasons I struggle with the M26 with it being a 6 speed, that 6th gear is extremely awkward to get in cleanly, have allready blown 3 engines in practice around Brands :smil20:

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Quote :
That depends on Preference as well mate :chinois:

Indeed :top:

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Michal Janak
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Michal Janak


Number of posts : 1077
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Location : Brno, Czech Republic
Registration date : 2010-03-25

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i found something about dog leg pattern a year ago, haven't time to test it yet, i dont like 6gear cars like Jonathan wrote, i have in memory and hand clasical 5 speed from regular cars ad from may years on computer sims with my Shifter, so it is hard to switch brain to use something different Very Happy


and finaly i can count only to 5 :D

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Mick Chapman
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Mick Chapman


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Location : Wales/Pays de Galles
Registration date : 2014-01-04

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:conduit: :urgence:

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Martin Lacina
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Martin Lacina


Number of posts : 475
Age : 41
Location : Czech Republic
Registration date : 2016-02-16

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[quote="Alberto Ibañez"]
Michal Janak wrote:
For Martin Lacina
You should try it, makes shifting quicker because you have only once to go in echelon Smile

Nice tip Alberto. Thanks i will try it.
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Petr Hlavac
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Petr Hlavac


Number of posts : 811
Age : 39
Location : Brno, Czech Republic
Registration date : 2015-01-11

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Although it's really important for me and Brands is one of my all time favorites, I can't confirm i'll make it on Sunday. We're going to Nurnberg for the weekend (some 500km drive) and i don't know when we'll get back. On one hand, i think it would be fair to offer my Williams to other people, it would be a shame to leave such a nice car sidelined. On the other hand, i want to be behind the wheel if there's even the slightest chance i'll make it. I guess i'll know some 3 hours before the start... Rolling Eyes
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Jason Fitch


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Location : Frankfort, IN
Registration date : 2015-04-18

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Ok, so I'm having wheel issues, I think it's actually a pedals issue. I'm going to try to get it straightened out. I'll let you guys know Saturday night or early Sunday morning if I can't.


BTW: for those wondering, after Indy, whenever I plug my wheel in, it goes through the calibration and everything and it all feels ok. But as soon as I start up rFactor, or even bring up the controller settings in the Control Panel, the wheel resets itself, goes through the motions again and there is no force feedback at all, the wheel is free spinning, also the pedals aren't registering.

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absent

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present :conduit:

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Alberto Ibañez
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Location : International Simracing Organisation
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Quote :
after Indy, whenever I plug my wheel in, it goes through the calibration and everything and it all feels ok

You must have smashed the wall really hard at Indy Laughing

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Age : 34
Location : Stockholm
Registration date : 2012-01-22

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#11 :conduit: Smile

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Jason White
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Simon Wattman wrote:
#11 :conduit: Smile

Ok

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Registration date : 2012-06-24

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Note ATS stands for Automatically Timed Spinouts

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