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 Round 4 - Magione - Magione [Feb 24th]

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Ben Paulet
Jan Titz
Yannick Lampure
Pascal Jostarndt
Raul Jereb
Mick Chapman
David Jaques
Jonatan Acerclinth
Didier Conjeaud
Yves Plaçais
Alberto Ibañez
Philippe Martinelli
Mike Becnel
Patrice Gibelin
Dave Simmons
Pascal Mikula
Jan Kowalski
Dylan Canton
Richard Coxon
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Jose Berenguer
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Jose Berenguer


Number of posts : 103
Age : 49
Location : Spain
Registration date : 2014-11-16

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Alberto Ibañez
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Alberto Ibañez


Number of posts : 16788
Age : 121
Location : International Simracing Organisation
Registration date : 2010-09-17

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Sorry guys, wife just came home and told me someone rear ended her car while stopped at a traffic light. The bastard ran away and she took the number plate but is now at hospital for routine check as her neck hurts, she will be later going to the police. I'm quite pissed off now and have to take care of the children's dinner, so no racing for me. Evil or Very Mad
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Richard Coxon
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Richard Coxon


Number of posts : 16590
Age : 37
Location : Sheffield, England
Registration date : 2012-06-29

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So sorry to hear that mate, there is some twats in the world. I hope your wife feels better soon.

Dylan you have 2 mins to rejoin.
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Pascal Mikula
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Pascal Mikula


Number of posts : 1189
Age : 24
Location : Classic Motorsport Hub
Registration date : 2016-01-04

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Worst track ever. Car behaves like piece of ****. I can't change into 5th gear all of a sudden and just now in the corner my gear just jumped out. I'm done. Words cannot describe how much I hate this track, how much like **** my car behaved and how pissed off I am right now Evil or Very Mad But still I want to apologise to Jan to have crashed him out in HEAT 2... It's the same explanation as before; my wheels just locked up and I couldn't do anything! Same with the bump in the formation lap!


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Jan Kowalski
Pro Driver
Jan Kowalski


Number of posts : 777
Age : 34
Location : Germany
Registration date : 2008-11-28

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Very mixed emotions tonight.
Heat 1 went quite good, not much practise but i could stayed in the middle of the field so i was happy with that. My tyres got very hot in the end of the cause because i was slipping around. With new pedals i was not confident on brakes, so every time at braking i was too cautious and my rear didnt turn into the corner.
Heat 2 was a very disappointing race. At the formation lap! i was bumped at first turn. Okay, i was braking hard but space was all around. A damaged rear bumper was the result. On lap 1 on of the race all ended as i was hit in the right side from the same guy Evil or Very Mad after i turned in for the corner after long straight. Not happy with that move, just watch replay.


PS:
Perhaps someone can get a little advise for a good start. I always lose 6 or more position. Do you guys use clutch pedal or a different gear setting?
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Jonatan Acerclinth
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Jonatan Acerclinth


Number of posts : 1837
Age : 31
Location : Gräv, Sweden
Registration date : 2012-12-10

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Sorry for also missing R2 Crying or Very sad

I'm used to someone saying on forums when r1 is over but tired to join a couple of times but must have missed the interval Sad

I hope you all had fun. Really sad to miss this one as this track was an obvious Alfa one.
Oh well, onto the next one :smil20:
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Mike Becnel
Racing Legend
Mike Becnel


Number of posts : 4741
Age : 56
Location : Sugar Land, TX, USA
Registration date : 2012-06-24

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Wow race 1 was bumper cars in the back. All 5 of us fighting to basically not be last were racing side by side at some point in the race. I got passed everyone then rolled the car. thankfully back onto the wheels. Passed everyone again and then went way off on turn 1. Tried to do so again but at race end the "politeness" level had dropped to "sorry no" status and I screwed up enough times to be in the back at the end.

Race 2 it was more "let's you and him fight" as watched the guys i raced before in the back kill themselves off. Pascal M I think said he had the wrong tires and it showed after lap 6 or so. That had to be one insane ride with tires hitting 115 to 120. Not sure what happened to other Pascal.

Car was untouched until I got accidentally collected by a spinner. No harm no foul. You were clearly trying like crazy to catch the A1 back markers. Did not hurt me bad.
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Mike Becnel
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Mike Becnel


Number of posts : 4741
Age : 56
Location : Sugar Land, TX, USA
Registration date : 2012-06-24

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Jan Kowalski wrote:



PS:
Perhaps someone can get a little advise for a good start. I always lose 6 or more position. Do you guys use clutch pedal or a different gear setting?

Clutch is an absolute must use here.
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Richard Wilks
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Richard Wilks


Number of posts : 2212
Age : 41
Location : Portugal
Registration date : 2015-01-07

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Well i could almost copy my previous race report! :bangry: Got put out of the track in turn one in the first race again. I didnt get a good feeling or setup for this track, so it was harder to claw back some positions. Managed to at least salvage a podium in race 2 :hum:
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Raul Jereb
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Raul Jereb


Number of posts : 1490
Age : 50
Location : Rijeka, Croatia
Registration date : 2013-05-28

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What a lousy driver am I....
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Jan Kowalski
Pro Driver
Jan Kowalski


Number of posts : 777
Age : 34
Location : Germany
Registration date : 2008-11-28

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Pascal Mikula wrote:
WBut still I want to apologise to Jan to have crashed him out in HEAT 2... It's the same explanation as before; my wheels just locked up and I couldn't do anything! Same with the bump in the formation lap!

apology accepted (D. Vader) :D  I was really mad about the second hit, but we all did misjudging in simracing so i hope for a better move next time. You also hit others on lap 1.

btw: i like this track very much. By now it was the best track of the CIS season imo.


@Mike
Thanks for the hint.


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Pascal Mikula
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Pascal Mikula


Number of posts : 1189
Age : 24
Location : Classic Motorsport Hub
Registration date : 2016-01-04

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Mike Becnel wrote:
Pascal M I think said he had the wrong tires and it showed after lap 6 or so. That had to be one insane ride with tires hitting 115 to 120.
I had soft ones, yeah... Also it was a big matter with the brakes... Either they didn't work at all or they locked up every single wheel... Also when I DNF'd I was actually just raging hard because as I already said my car was just behaving like... I don't know it must be some censored word that I'd need here...
Yeah when I DNF'd I just had enough because in the middle of the first corner my gear just jumped out. I was suddenly in neutral gear with the engine going out. And I hadn't pressed anything. So yeah.
Jan Kowalski wrote:
I was really mad about the second hit
I can understand... I even stopped to take a look at you if you'd still be able to drive.. I was also mad at myself at that point..
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Richard Coxon
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Richard Coxon


Number of posts : 16590
Age : 37
Location : Sheffield, England
Registration date : 2012-06-29

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Results and points are updated :flag:
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Dave Simmons
Club Driver



Number of posts : 116
Age : 35
Location : Cheltenham
Registration date : 2012-12-16

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Race 1 L1 T1 i was towards the outside and the concertina effect caused some bumping and during that i lost the rear and spun into the pack, sorry if i caused damage to anyone. I havent been able to see a replay so not sure what actually happened.

I rejoined last or there abouts and made some nice moves and caught the back of Richard, just couldnt pass through the tight bits and he'd pull away in the straights. Finished 12th 5th in class i think.

R2 groundhog day with Richard, bit closer this time for the opening laps until i see an RS500 and Ben Paulet coming up fast, i thought in my head that id let the "A1" class cars go as they were much quicker... what i fool i felt when i realised BP was an A2...oops... he made a mistake late on but by that time Richard had made a big gap so i cruised to the finished... 10th and 4th in class i think

Thanks all, much more fun than last round.

Edit: Seen the replay, i appear to hit a car who ran very deep into T1 while turning in, so not really much i could have done there Sad
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David Jundt
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David Jundt


Number of posts : 2647
Age : 35
Location : Binningen, Switzerland
Registration date : 2012-07-14

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Q: No chance in the end, P2.

R1: Started to reel in Jose later in the race and had more pace(FL), but instead of finding a good chance to pass, either missed the opportunity or just tapped Jose's rear end trying to stay close and wait for a move. Nearly wrote my car off when I tried to get alongside at T2 and got lightly slapped by the right rear quarter of Jose's Evo. Lucky enough not to have broken the car there pale

Kept trying, but Jose defended well.

R2: After a setup tweak and noticing Jose braking a bit earlier for some turns, I outbraked him into T2. Him? No, I think I rather outbraked myself and came in too hot. Sorry Jose, that was clumsy by me Rolling Eyes

But the pace was MUCH better than in R1, managed to get into the twelves and started to gap Jose. I actually didn't think I'd find that much, but I was flying there.

Flying is a good word, as I nearly rolled once or twice when lapping cars as I took too much of those sausage kerbs when I tried to stay away as fart as possible.

Sorry guys!
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Dylan Canton
Experienced Driver
Dylan Canton


Number of posts : 247
Age : 25
Location : Limbricht, Netherlands
Registration date : 2015-01-18

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Mike Becnel wrote:
Car was untouched until I got accidentally collected by a spinner. No harm no foul. You were clearly trying like crazy to catch the A1 back markers. Did not hurt me bad.

Sorry for that, you politely let me past (first A2 car that actually noticed it was multi-class and there was no position to defend for) and then i spin out and crash into you, when i spun and saw you taking your route trying to get past i knew i was gonna hit you, nothing i could do but max lock and brake....
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Dylan Canton
Experienced Driver
Dylan Canton


Number of posts : 247
Age : 25
Location : Limbricht, Netherlands
Registration date : 2015-01-18

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this went like absolute sh*t again....

R1: had a poor launch and lost a couple positions, when braking for T1 i was on the inside, only no-one seem to reconise that and i got first spun round and then it felt like everyone was using me as a ping-pong ball, so i started a march up the field again... but when i tried overtaking one of the TA2 Sierra's by taking a gap up the inside i just got pinged off track... so the story started from the beginning again, and after couple laps i spun on my own... don't even know how i managed to get 14th

R2: had a poor launch again, but then had a great first lap, until the last turn where i got spun around again... and then just everything went to sh*t, after i spun into Mike (causing my left front suspension to break) and my Wheel reset to 900 degrees again i just gave up... just cruised to the finish

Sorry for anyone who i was a rolling chicane to in race 2
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Ben Paulet
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Ben Paulet


Number of posts : 8291
Age : 50
Location : Cagnes sur mer France
Registration date : 2009-07-29

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Thx Mike to let me pass in the first race, I didn't know why but I took. :D
I avoided as I could the spinning cars in the firsts turns. I did my best results in that champ tonight. So nice rounds for me tonight. Very Happy

I would like make a recall about defending position.
It is forbidden to change more than once a direction to defend his position.
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Jason White
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Jason White


Number of posts : 14725
Age : 47
Location : Ferndale, MI USA
Registration date : 2011-12-25

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Sounds like I'm missing lots of action on Wednesday nites :hihi:
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Mike Becnel
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Mike Becnel


Number of posts : 4741
Age : 56
Location : Sugar Land, TX, USA
Registration date : 2012-06-24

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Dylan Canton wrote:
Mike Becnel wrote:
Car was untouched until I got accidentally collected by a spinner. No harm no foul. You were clearly trying like crazy to catch the A1 back markers. Did not hurt me bad.

Sorry for that, you politely let me past (first A2 car that actually noticed it was multi-class and there was no position to defend for) and then i spin out and crash into you, when i spun and saw you taking your route trying to get past i knew i was gonna hit you, nothing i could do but max lock and brake....

No worries bud. I was watching you and knew you were having a terrible day. I saw the others beating the hell out of you. I do not think they realized you were A1. When I passed them I knew what to expect and got it. I rubbed back very very hard. One had serious handling problems so his was not on purpose. i saw the hip check you mentioned. If you file a complaint I assure you it will be seen as intentional and I suspect not taken lightly.

Ben you were in a different world than me speed wise. I saw you get spun before I passed. If I tried to race you I would over drive and plow into a wall. Better to let the speedy one by!
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Ben Paulet
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Ben Paulet


Number of posts : 8291
Age : 50
Location : Cagnes sur mer France
Registration date : 2009-07-29

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Mike Becnel wrote:
Ben you were in a different world than me speed wise. I saw you get spun before I passed. If I tried to race you I would over drive and plow into a wall. Better to let the speedy one by!
I think same, it's fair to let pass the fasters. Thx man. :frank:
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