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+14Greg Hunt finally gone :) Olivier Mathieu Richard Coxon Martin Audran Jens Kraft Patrick Marucco Karel Marciniszyn Yves Plaçais JB Massida Carl Larrad Alessio Campigotto Guillaume Siebert Mike Becnel 18 posters |
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Mike Becnel Racing Legend

Number of posts : 4741 Age : 54 Location : Sugar Land, TX, USA Registration date : 2012-06-24
![F1 1991 Fun race @ Hockenheim [Sept 2nd] Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: F1 1991 Fun race @ Hockenheim [Sept 2nd] Sun 26 Aug - 19:22 | |
| I see no race scheduled for Sept 2nd. Anybody up for a 1991 F1 somewhere fun? Hockenheim (like we just ran in interseries) or other? Dibs on the 2nd Williams car if so  -Mike Edit: and the race should be short or even 2 or 3 really short races so those who break apart can come back again (me mostly  ) DOWNLOAD TRACKPlanning (All times CET, Paris Time) : Sunday September 2nd :8.45 PM : Qualifying session 9.00 PM : Warmup 9.10 PM : Race 1 (10 laps) 9.30 PM : Qualifying session 9.45 PM : Warmup 9.55 PM : Race 2 (10 laps) 10.15 PM : Qualifying session 10.30 PM : Warmup 10.40 PM : Race 3 (10 laps) Server IP : 91.121.135.76:34600password : hso91HOTLAPS_________________ ![F1 1991 Fun race @ Hockenheim [Sept 2nd] 458](http://www.historicsimracing.org/pilote_sign/458)
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Guillaume Siebert League Owner

Number of posts : 13826 Age : 36 Location : Paris, France Registration date : 2008-09-08
![F1 1991 Fun race @ Hockenheim [Sept 2nd] Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: F1 1991 Fun race @ Hockenheim [Sept 2nd] Mon 27 Aug - 5:12 | |
| Why not, I can launch the server with 15min qualifying and 10 laps races or something like this, but this won't be considered as official HSO races. | |
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Alessio Campigotto Racing Legend

Number of posts : 1249 Age : 25 Location : UK Registration date : 2011-12-29
![F1 1991 Fun race @ Hockenheim [Sept 2nd] Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: F1 1991 Fun race @ Hockenheim [Sept 2nd] Mon 27 Aug - 5:45 | |
| I'm still yet to drive these, so I'd be in favour  _________________ Alfaholic. ![F1 1991 Fun race @ Hockenheim [Sept 2nd] 95](http://historicsimracing.org/pilote_sign/95) 1999 German F3 1989 Italian Superturismo | |
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Carl Larrad Racing Legend

Number of posts : 6751 Age : 57 Location : Swindon , UK Registration date : 2008-12-20
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Guillaume Siebert League Owner

Number of posts : 13826 Age : 36 Location : Paris, France Registration date : 2008-09-08
![F1 1991 Fun race @ Hockenheim [Sept 2nd] Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: F1 1991 Fun race @ Hockenheim [Sept 2nd] Mon 27 Aug - 6:29 | |
| Just tell me what track you want guys.  | |
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JB Massida Pro Driver

Number of posts : 631 Age : 31 Location : Cagnes sur Mer Registration date : 2010-02-18
![F1 1991 Fun race @ Hockenheim [Sept 2nd] Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: F1 1991 Fun race @ Hockenheim [Sept 2nd] Mon 27 Aug - 8:23 | |
| Why not Interlagos? Edit: ah yes Hockenheim sounds nice too _________________ ![F1 1991 Fun race @ Hockenheim [Sept 2nd] 301](http://historicsimracing.org/pilote_sign/301) | |
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Alessio Campigotto Racing Legend

Number of posts : 1249 Age : 25 Location : UK Registration date : 2011-12-29
![F1 1991 Fun race @ Hockenheim [Sept 2nd] Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: F1 1991 Fun race @ Hockenheim [Sept 2nd] Mon 27 Aug - 9:02 | |
| Magny Cours or Monaco? Shame no Paul Ricard  _________________ Alfaholic. ![F1 1991 Fun race @ Hockenheim [Sept 2nd] 95](http://historicsimracing.org/pilote_sign/95) 1999 German F3 1989 Italian Superturismo | |
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Yves Plaçais Racing Legend

Number of posts : 1981 Age : 62 Location : Angers, France. Registration date : 2008-12-18
![F1 1991 Fun race @ Hockenheim [Sept 2nd] Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: F1 1991 Fun race @ Hockenheim [Sept 2nd] Mon 27 Aug - 9:26 | |
| Absent, je serai sans doute encore à Bruxelles déménager ma fifille ! _________________ ![F1 1991 Fun race @ Hockenheim [Sept 2nd] 58](http://historicsimracing.org/pilote_sign/58) | |
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Karel Marciniszyn Pro Driver

Number of posts : 935 Age : 39 Location : Czech republic Registration date : 2009-11-03
![F1 1991 Fun race @ Hockenheim [Sept 2nd] Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: F1 1991 Fun race @ Hockenheim [Sept 2nd] Mon 27 Aug - 10:48 | |
| present Interlagos or Imola...only my 2 cents _________________ I am ashamed for my stats way too much to show them  | |
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Patrick Marucco Racing Legend

Number of posts : 2399 Age : 66 Location : Joué les Tours Registration date : 2008-12-18
![F1 1991 Fun race @ Hockenheim [Sept 2nd] Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: F1 1991 Fun race @ Hockenheim [Sept 2nd] Mon 27 Aug - 11:00 | |
| Absent ce week end _________________ "L'important c'est de participer" - Pierre de Coubertin![F1 1991 Fun race @ Hockenheim [Sept 2nd] 11](http://historicsimracing.org/pilote_sign/11) | |
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Jens Kraft Experienced Driver

Number of posts : 385 Age : 40 Location : Ruhr District, Germany Registration date : 2010-01-31
![F1 1991 Fun race @ Hockenheim [Sept 2nd] Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: F1 1991 Fun race @ Hockenheim [Sept 2nd] Mon 27 Aug - 12:44 | |
| i would also be up for it. should we run 1990 just for fun, so we have a taste for the new mod? Tracks: as tracks, i love this hockenheim, but maybe it is no track for overtaking in F1? (unless close chase doesnt ruin the aerodynamics of the rear car, e.g. in the Ost-Kurve). What tracks make good 1991 cars? Estoril? Aida? if we are not many, Japanese tracks like (T)sugo or Ebisu would be great! remember, it is only 10 laps or so what we will race.3 short runs with reverse grid always grant chance for anyone  quite all Circuits of the world: http://theracingline.net/racingcircuits/ Ebisu http://theracingline.net/racingcircuits/Japan/Ebisu.html Tsukuba is a great track: http://theracingline.net/racingcircuits/Japan/Tsukuba.html in case you dont know tsukuba, look this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=froT98RyeDk at 52s you will hear, where i have my Impossibru-face from  | |
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Mike Becnel Racing Legend

Number of posts : 4741 Age : 54 Location : Sugar Land, TX, USA Registration date : 2012-06-24
![F1 1991 Fun race @ Hockenheim [Sept 2nd] Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: F1 1991 Fun race @ Hockenheim [Sept 2nd] Mon 27 Aug - 14:02 | |
| Hockenheim please Gui
10 laps and 15 min qual is perfect.
Would it be possible to launch an available cars section/official thread for it in the Interseries or Open events section? If so, put me down for the Williams 2nd car (not Mansell...I am too slow to be him..Senna fan club will be sending me thank you notes FYI).
Thanks,
Mike
We can run 2x 10 lap races so the races plus qual will be under 1 hour.
No formation lap, start from grid as in last 2 Open races.
Edit: in the other thread I said near 1:40s for the fast guys. WRONG. Prob 134s or 35s. I just ran a 1:40.9 in the Williams. _________________ ![F1 1991 Fun race @ Hockenheim [Sept 2nd] 458](http://www.historicsimracing.org/pilote_sign/458) | |
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Guillaume Siebert League Owner

Number of posts : 13826 Age : 36 Location : Paris, France Registration date : 2008-09-08
![F1 1991 Fun race @ Hockenheim [Sept 2nd] Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: F1 1991 Fun race @ Hockenheim [Sept 2nd] Mon 27 Aug - 15:27 | |
| Nah no official topic or cars booking, its just for fun, you guys can take any car you want. We'll see if people can chose cars according to their level by themselves  | |
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Mike Becnel Racing Legend

Number of posts : 4741 Age : 54 Location : Sugar Land, TX, USA Registration date : 2012-06-24
![F1 1991 Fun race @ Hockenheim [Sept 2nd] Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: F1 1991 Fun race @ Hockenheim [Sept 2nd] Mon 27 Aug - 16:02 | |
| OK, I can live with that. Any chance of a "hot laps" link?  (it is the only place I do not hit people) Would one of you more experienced guys rate all the chassis A for fast B for middle C for slow? As far as time (mods please edit as needed): 8PM Server launch/warmup (15 minutes) 8:15PM Qualification starts (15 minutes) 8:30PM Start of Race 1 (~15 minutes) -- no warmup lap -- 10 laps 8:45PM Restart race 8:45PM Start of Race 2 (~15 minutes) -- no warmup lap -- 10 laps HSO91 password. Same server as F1 1991 races? _________________ ![F1 1991 Fun race @ Hockenheim [Sept 2nd] 458](http://www.historicsimracing.org/pilote_sign/458) | |
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Alessio Campigotto Racing Legend

Number of posts : 1249 Age : 25 Location : UK Registration date : 2011-12-29
![F1 1991 Fun race @ Hockenheim [Sept 2nd] Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: F1 1991 Fun race @ Hockenheim [Sept 2nd] Mon 27 Aug - 16:37 | |
| - Jens Kraft wrote:
- i would also be up for it.
should we run 1990 just for fun, so we have a taste for the new mod?
 The mod is incomplete unfortunately  - Mike Becnel wrote:
- OK, I can live with that.
Any chance of a "hot laps" link? (it is the only place I do not hit people)
Would one of you more experienced guys rate all the chassis A for fast B for middle C for slow?
These are Tiago's at Adelaide  - Tiago Malafaya wrote:
- 1 Williams FW14- 1:16.917 (no comment)
2 Benetton B191- 1:17.714 (no comment) 3 Mclaren MP4/6- 1:17.875 (no comment) 4 Ferrari 643- 1:17.904 (no comment) 5 Dallara D191- 1:18.107 (bit heavy and understeery, good engine) 6 Tyrrell 020- 1:18.254 (good handling, brakes not that good, good engine) 7 Jordan 191- 1:18.524 (very oversteery, good brakes) 8 Leyton House CG911- 1:19.414 (unstable exiting corners, good engine) 9 Ligier JS35B- 1:19.802 (good brakes, underpowered) 10 Minardi M191- 1:19.804 (Neutral, easy to drive) 11 Brabham BT-60Y- 1:19.882 (poor brakes, understeery, good engine) 12 Lotus 102B- 1:20.366 (Touchy Brakes, nervous handling) 13 Larrouse LC91- 1:21.200 (understeery in slow corners, underpowered) 14 Footwork FA12C Hart- 1:21.361 (good brakes, oversteery, underpowered) 15 Fondmetal FOMET1- 1:21.523 (Agile, underpowered) 16 AGS JH25B- 1:21.675 (oversteery, underpowered) 17 Coloni C4- 1:22.149 (it's theoretically the slowest, but it was nice to drive it ) 18 Lambo 291- 1:22.427 (peaky engine, very understeery, reacts pretty slowly) However, the cars will probably react very differently to different circuits. I would expect the times from Spa would be more relevant for Hockenheim  _________________ Alfaholic. ![F1 1991 Fun race @ Hockenheim [Sept 2nd] 95](http://historicsimracing.org/pilote_sign/95) 1999 German F3 1989 Italian Superturismo | |
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Jens Kraft Experienced Driver

Number of posts : 385 Age : 40 Location : Ruhr District, Germany Registration date : 2010-01-31
![F1 1991 Fun race @ Hockenheim [Sept 2nd] Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: F1 1991 Fun race @ Hockenheim [Sept 2nd] Mon 27 Aug - 17:12 | |
| we could try to guess the values from spa, its more like Hockenheim. ah, i would rather say 3x 15 minutes because 2 is not fun and therefore we skip practice. why? i would have shortened quali to 5 minutes that would be great, so u have some surprises. the perfect guys slow, the slow guys decent. we already know the track. but as in 1967 we can use praccy = quali  8:00 Forum call "server launched" 8:02 Quali 15mins 8:17 quali ends 8:20 15mins / 8 laps 8:40 15 mins 9:00 15 mins dont forget that after race u have 2 mins lap out, you have grid build ... and all that so ur calculation is a bit tight --> so we will end up like your race but 3 heats. 2nd run full reverse grid 3rd run only top 6 reverse grid anyone seen the Tsukuba track in my video above? it is just awesome to race, i raced it once iwth Carsten Theile | |
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JB Massida Pro Driver

Number of posts : 631 Age : 31 Location : Cagnes sur Mer Registration date : 2010-02-18
![F1 1991 Fun race @ Hockenheim [Sept 2nd] Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: F1 1991 Fun race @ Hockenheim [Sept 2nd] Mon 27 Aug - 19:35 | |
| I'll arrive on the evening without any training, I already know the track but not the cars. Which one should be the easiest, and not be a slow-ass car? _________________ ![F1 1991 Fun race @ Hockenheim [Sept 2nd] 301](http://historicsimracing.org/pilote_sign/301) | |
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Martin Audran League Owner

Number of posts : 5553 Age : 37 Location : Vannes, France Registration date : 2008-09-08
![F1 1991 Fun race @ Hockenheim [Sept 2nd] Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: F1 1991 Fun race @ Hockenheim [Sept 2nd] Mon 27 Aug - 19:44 | |
| I think the Minardi is pretty neutral, not very fast but definitely not slow Maybe there for the race _________________ ![F1 1991 Fun race @ Hockenheim [Sept 2nd] 4](http://www.historicsimracing.org/pilote_sign/4) | |
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JB Massida Pro Driver

Number of posts : 631 Age : 31 Location : Cagnes sur Mer Registration date : 2010-02-18
![F1 1991 Fun race @ Hockenheim [Sept 2nd] Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: F1 1991 Fun race @ Hockenheim [Sept 2nd] Mon 27 Aug - 19:51 | |
| Cool, my favourite team _________________ ![F1 1991 Fun race @ Hockenheim [Sept 2nd] 301](http://historicsimracing.org/pilote_sign/301) | |
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Mike Becnel Racing Legend

Number of posts : 4741 Age : 54 Location : Sugar Land, TX, USA Registration date : 2012-06-24
![F1 1991 Fun race @ Hockenheim [Sept 2nd] Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: F1 1991 Fun race @ Hockenheim [Sept 2nd] Tue 28 Aug - 1:57 | |
| You can pretty much take your car from Spa and increase 6th gear (make the number larger) by 1 or 2 notches and it will be driveable.
Jens at race time if people want a 3rd race there shalt be a 3rd race. _________________ ![F1 1991 Fun race @ Hockenheim [Sept 2nd] 458](http://www.historicsimracing.org/pilote_sign/458) | |
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Alessio Campigotto Racing Legend

Number of posts : 1249 Age : 25 Location : UK Registration date : 2011-12-29
![F1 1991 Fun race @ Hockenheim [Sept 2nd] Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: F1 1991 Fun race @ Hockenheim [Sept 2nd] Tue 28 Aug - 5:35 | |
| I like the reverse idea grid from Jens  _________________ Alfaholic. ![F1 1991 Fun race @ Hockenheim [Sept 2nd] 95](http://historicsimracing.org/pilote_sign/95) 1999 German F3 1989 Italian Superturismo | |
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Guillaume Siebert League Owner

Number of posts : 13826 Age : 36 Location : Paris, France Registration date : 2008-09-08
![F1 1991 Fun race @ Hockenheim [Sept 2nd] Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: F1 1991 Fun race @ Hockenheim [Sept 2nd] Tue 28 Aug - 5:48 | |
| I'd prefer short qualifying session between each races, so that people can change car if they want to. | |
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Mike Becnel Racing Legend

Number of posts : 4741 Age : 54 Location : Sugar Land, TX, USA Registration date : 2012-06-24
![F1 1991 Fun race @ Hockenheim [Sept 2nd] Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: F1 1991 Fun race @ Hockenheim [Sept 2nd] Tue 28 Aug - 14:02 | |
| How can that be done Gui?
Will you or another admin be there to reset (and possibly grab the race results?)
Multiple qual sessions sounds good. Maybe just 2 races, and 2 qual sessions? _________________ ![F1 1991 Fun race @ Hockenheim [Sept 2nd] 458](http://www.historicsimracing.org/pilote_sign/458) | |
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Richard Coxon Racing Legend

Number of posts : 16590 Age : 35 Location : Sheffield, England Registration date : 2012-06-29
![F1 1991 Fun race @ Hockenheim [Sept 2nd] Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: F1 1991 Fun race @ Hockenheim [Sept 2nd] Tue 28 Aug - 17:56 | |
| So is this race just a matter or turning up on the night??
Which I.P address is it again??? _________________ ![F1 1991 Fun race @ Hockenheim [Sept 2nd] 462](http://historicsimracing.org/pilote_sign/462) | |
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Jens Kraft Experienced Driver

Number of posts : 385 Age : 40 Location : Ruhr District, Germany Registration date : 2010-01-31
![F1 1991 Fun race @ Hockenheim [Sept 2nd] Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: F1 1991 Fun race @ Hockenheim [Sept 2nd] Tue 28 Aug - 18:51 | |
| - Guillaume Siebert wrote:
- I'd prefer short qualifying session between each races, so that people can change car if they want to.
hey we can downgrade winners  so wubbers must take a slower car | |
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