F1 1991 - Australian GP [July 8th]

yo je viens de tomber sur ce topic dans la partie " un peu de detente "

j espere pouvoir etre present a cette date la , le retour de la f1 chez HSO ca ne doit pas se manquer

Ben oui j'ai mis un post dans le paddock parce que j'ai l'impression que personne vient dans la section Opens. Alors que pourtant ça fait 2 ans qu'on ne fait quasi que des opens l'été. Cette fois il y a le championnat Interserie un dimanche sur 2, l'autre dimanche sera un open, et il y aura surement une deuxième F1 91 histoire de bien tester le mod.

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yo je viens de tomber sur ce topic dans la partie " un peu de detente "

j espere pouvoir etre present a cette date la , le retour de la f1 chez HSO ca ne doit pas se manquer

À la Open CART98 Elkhart Lake tu nous manques encore

Guillaume Siebert wrote:

Well fastest drivers won't be allowed to take Williams/McLaren/Benetton/Ferrari thats for sure at least.

Argh, I'm having such a blast driving the Benetton....

Did you try another car at least ? :p

yep, almost every car except the front runners

Still the Dallara, Larrouse and lambo left

Ah great then you can post the results of your tests and give us an overview of the car performances.

I will

Ok, after a lot of testing wth all the cars, here's the results:

1 Williams FW14- 1:16.917 (no comment)
2 Benetton B191- 1:17.714 (no comment)
3 Mclaren MP4/6- 1:17.875 (no comment)
4 Ferrari 643- 1:17.904 (no comment)
5 Dallara D191- 1:18.107 (bit heavy and understeery, good engine)
6 Tyrrell 020- 1:18.254 (good handling, brakes not that good, good engine)
7 Jordan 191- 1:18.524 (very oversteery, good brakes)
8 Leyton House CG911- 1:19.414 (unstable exiting corners, good engine)
9 Ligier JS35B- 1:19.802 (good brakes, underpowered)
10 Minardi M191- 1:19.804 (Neutral, easy to drive)
11 Brabham BT-60Y- 1:19.882 (poor brakes, understeery, good engine)
12 Lotus 102B- 1:20.366 (Touchy Brakes, nervous handling)
13 Larrouse LC91- 1:21.200 (understeery in slow corners, underpowered)
14 Footwork FA12C Hart- 1:21.361 (good brakes, oversteery, underpowered)
15 Fondmetal FOMET1- 1:21.523 (Agile, underpowered)
16 AGS JH25B- 1:21.675 (oversteery, underpowered)
17 Coloni C4- 1:22.149 (it's theoretically the slowest, but it was nice to drive it )
18 Lambo 291- 1:22.427 (peaky engine, very understeery, reacts pretty slowly)

I did this laps with a "common" setup that I made , some cars would go fine with it, some not so good (ex: Jordan, like Gui said, needs more rear wing to be more stable)

Tempted to pick the AGS because the airbox looks so cool, but I know better than that

Jason White wrote:

Tempted to pick the AGS because the airbox looks so cool, but I know better than that

You too?

And now a lap with my all-time favourite driver

Are the supersoft and qualifying tyres legal for the event?

Yes why wouldn't they ?

That's odd. The Ford V8 sounds a bit frenetic; I thought the power delivery was smoother than that.

Oh dear.... that gearbox..... one of the major problems of the b191

Pretty cool

Guillaume Siebert wrote:

Yes why wouldn't they ?

Just to make sure

Just so you know, cars booking won't open before the CART open race

Juste pour info, les réservations n'ouvriront pas avant la course open CART

Jason White wrote:

That's odd. The Ford V8 sounds a bit frenetic; I thought the power delivery was smoother than that.

No, Piquet made it look smooth, the engine had quite a lot of torque

Guillaume Siebert wrote:

Yes it is
No League Edition shit in here

this should be great

Tiago Malafaya wrote:

Ok, after a lot of testing wth all the cars, here's the results:

1 Williams FW14- 1:16.917 (no comment)
2 Benetton B191- 1:17.714 (no comment)
3 Mclaren MP4/6- 1:17.875 (no comment)
4 Ferrari 643- 1:17.904 (no comment)
5 Dallara D191- 1:18.107 (bit heavy and understeery, good engine)
6 Tyrrell 020- 1:18.254 (good handling, brakes not that good, good engine)
7 Jordan 191- 1:18.524 (very oversteery, good brakes)
8 Leyton House CG911- 1:19.414 (unstable exiting corners, good engine)
9 Ligier JS35B- 1:19.802 (good brakes, underpowered)
10 Minardi M191- 1:19.804 (Neutral, easy to drive)
11 Brabham BT-60Y- 1:19.882 (poor brakes, understeery, good engine)
12 Lotus 102B- 1:20.366 (Touchy Brakes, nervous handling)
13 Larrouse LC91- 1:21.200 (understeery in slow corners, underpowered)
14 Footwork FA12C Hart- 1:21.361 (good brakes, oversteery, underpowered)
15 Fondmetal FOMET1- 1:21.523 (Agile, underpowered)
16 AGS JH25B- 1:21.675 (oversteery, underpowered)
17 Coloni C4- 1:22.149 (it's theoretically the slowest, but it was nice to drive it )
18 Lambo 291- 1:22.427 (peaky engine, very understeery, reacts pretty slowly)

I did this laps with a "common" setup that I made , some cars would go fine with it, some not so good (ex: Jordan, like Gui said, needs more rear wing to be more stable)

Thanks
I thought the 4 fastest cars would have a bigger margin over the average cars (Dallara, Jordan, Tyrrell) and I'm surprised to see the Benetton faster than the McLaren.

Guillaume Siebert wrote:

Tiago Malafaya wrote:

Ok, after a lot of testing wth all the cars, here's the results:

1 Williams FW14- 1:16.917 (no comment)
2 Benetton B191- 1:17.714 (no comment)
3 Mclaren MP4/6- 1:17.875 (no comment)
4 Ferrari 643- 1:17.904 (no comment)
5 Dallara D191- 1:18.107 (bit heavy and understeery, good engine)
6 Tyrrell 020- 1:18.254 (good handling, brakes not that good, good engine)
7 Jordan 191- 1:18.524 (very oversteery, good brakes)
8 Leyton House CG911- 1:19.414 (unstable exiting corners, good engine)
9 Ligier JS35B- 1:19.802 (good brakes, underpowered)
10 Minardi M191- 1:19.804 (Neutral, easy to drive)
11 Brabham BT-60Y- 1:19.882 (poor brakes, understeery, good engine)
12 Lotus 102B- 1:20.366 (Touchy Brakes, nervous handling)
13 Larrouse LC91- 1:21.200 (understeery in slow corners, underpowered)
14 Footwork FA12C Hart- 1:21.361 (good brakes, oversteery, underpowered)
15 Fondmetal FOMET1- 1:21.523 (Agile, underpowered)
16 AGS JH25B- 1:21.675 (oversteery, underpowered)
17 Coloni C4- 1:22.149 (it's theoretically the slowest, but it was nice to drive it )
18 Lambo 291- 1:22.427 (peaky engine, very understeery, reacts pretty slowly)

I did this laps with a "common" setup that I made , some cars would go fine with it, some not so good (ex: Jordan, like Gui said, needs more rear wing to be more stable)

Thanks
I thought the 4 fastest cars would have a bigger margin over the average cars (Dallara, Jordan, Tyrrell) and I'm surprised to see the Benetton faster than the McLaren.

as far as I remember when I tested mode long time ago, McLaren was fastest but it was that interesting to drive which leads to fact that I spend much more time on other cars...like Larrouse for example
Now it is very hard to choose the car...and because I am slow I have more to choose from which makes it even harder!

Well, as I posted before, the setup was common for all cars, and it was clear that it worked much better with the Benetton and Williams than the Mclaren and Ferrari. Of course some cars are easier to drive than others too, specially the Mclaren; it's really fast but hard to get a very good lap; on the other hand, the Benetton has a very balanced package, so it's easier to extract more from it, like the Williams. Another example is the Jordan, I believe it can be a lot faster than the time I set, but it's another example of a car that has a lot of potential, but also hard to extract it all. The Dallara was a bit of a surprise too, because while driving it, it felt slow, but it was rather good; I expected the Leyton House to be the best of the rest.

The midfield cars are all pretty similar, some are easier to spot their flaws, others not.

Just a note about the Footwork: With the Porsche engine, it feels a lot heavier than with the Hart one, and it's quite pleasant to see that a lot of detail has been put in this mod


I'll probably make a new test with the front runners again this afternoon, with individual setups, so that I can confirm the speed of each one

Guillaume Siebert wrote:

Well fastest drivers won't be allowed to take Williams/McLaren/Benetton/Ferrari thats for sure at least.

Good that means i can have mansells williams