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 F1 1991 - Australian GP [July 8th]

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Honza Mild
Alexandre Dussel
Arnaud Plum
Yves Plaçais
Frank Labédan
Philippe Martinelli
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Richard Coxon
Ben Paulet
Ricardo Magno
Jens Kraft
Frank Verplanken
Gregory Letellier
Bernard Jeanmart
Laurent Duconge
Martin Audran
Francis Houard
Jon Hawkins
Mike Becnel
David Cid
Richard Roberts
Steve Parker
Tiago Malafaya
Alberto Ibañez
Greg Hunt
Philippe Bousquet
Karel Marciniszyn
Carl Larrad
Diego Dário
Vincent Beretta
JB Massida
Jason White
Alessio Campigotto
Patrick Marucco
Jukka Närhi
Guillaume Siebert
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Jason White
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Jason White


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Hey guys. I've been having a strange problem while practicing with my race setup. Looked at the PDF to see if it would explain, but to no avail... If I knock off a wing and need to come in the pits early, the computer drains all the fuel from the car! I leave the pits with a new front wing and no fuel! Imagine how disappointing this would be during the race itself. Anyone else experience this phenomenon?
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Guillaume Siebert
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Check your PLR settings (relative fuel strategy)

http://historicsimracing.123.st/t40-petits-trucs-sur-rfactor-tips-for-rfactor
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Jason White
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AHA! Mine was set at zero!

I made the change to 1, tried again, and that seems to have fixed the problem. Very Happy Thank you again, Gui. cheers
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Tiago Malafaya
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Tiago Malafaya


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The fuel mixture thing is making me a little confused... According to my maths, I can do the full distance with mix at 10 and still 18l of fuel left (the car averages 2.5l per lap) but I'm a little afraid that my HUD is giving me the wrong average...... Did anybdy else test the race setup and fuel average
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Frank Labédan
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Frank Labédan


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j'ai un petit soucis en mode course : je n'ai pas acces au nombre de ravitaillements (bloque sur 0) ni bien sur a la quantite (ND)...
voila, j'ignore si cela est normal mais j'imagine mal 81 tours sans passer aux stands (meme si je suis tres econome en pneus et fuel Smile).
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Guillaume Siebert
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Comment ça se fait que ça soit aux jeunes d'apprendre la F1 aux vieux ? :D Pas de ravitaillements en essence en 1991, juste les pneus. Wink
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Frank Labédan
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Frank Labédan


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:doh: ... Embarassed
en fait, le doute c'estemparé de mon esprit (alzeimeresque) en voyant qu'avec le plein complet l'ordi etait loin des 81 tours ...
m'enfin je vais quand meme me mettre au coin avec les bras dans le dos pendant 10 minutes !!!
merci Gui :jp:
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Tiago Malafaya
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Tiago Malafaya


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:rigol: :rigol:
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Martin Audran
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Tiago Malafaya wrote:
The fuel mixture thing is making me a little confused... According to my maths, I can do the full distance with mix at 10 and still 18l of fuel left (the car averages 2.5l per lap) but I'm a little afraid that my HUD is giving me the wrong average...... Did anybdy else test the race setup and fuel average

Nearly 2.5l per lap for me too Smile
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Tiago Malafaya
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That means we're ok for mix 10 :D
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Mike Becnel
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How much time difference are you guys seeing comparing your qualifying times to your racing trim times with full fuel?
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Karel Marciniszyn
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Mike Becnel wrote:
How much time difference are you guys seeing comparing your qualifying times to your racing trim times with full fuel?

I am not sure if I should count that diference with seconds or minutes...or number of spins Very Happy
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Tiago Malafaya
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Tiago Malafaya


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Mike Becnel wrote:
How much time difference are you guys seeing comparing your qualifying times to your racing trim times with full fuel?

4-5 or so seconds
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Yves Plaçais
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Yves Plaçais


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Absent pour cause de Mans Classic !
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Ricardo Magno
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I will not qualify on Thursday (wife's birthday! :champ: ), but will be there on Saturday. :conduit:

See ya. :top:
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Arnaud Plum
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Tiago Malafaya wrote:
Mike Becnel wrote:
How much time difference are you guys seeing comparing your qualifying times to your racing trim times with full fuel?

4-5 or so seconds

For me, it's more 7-8 seconds.
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Jason White
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Jason White


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The thing that worries me the most isn't so much the speed differential or fuel consumption, but surviving the opening laps with wings and four wheels!
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Martin Audran
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I thought the first qualy session was tonight :doh:

All this concentration accumulated throughout the day for nothing :bangry: lol!
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Martin Audran wrote:
I thought the first qualy session was tonight :doh:

All this concentration accumulated throughout the day for nothing :bangry: lol!
lol!
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Mike Becnel
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Mike Becnel


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Karel Marciniszyn wrote:
Mike Becnel wrote:
How much time difference are you guys seeing comparing your qualifying times to your racing trim times with full fuel?

I am not sure if I should count that diference with seconds or minutes...or number of spins Very Happy

I am with you there!! Setup is totally different. Brake points, totally different. The Senna-mobile is a gas hog so I also had to turn down the boost but I may turn it back up as I know I am going to get lapped many times and only need 1 gallon (so far).

Arnaud Plum wrote:
Tiago Malafaya wrote:
Mike Becnel wrote:
How much time difference are you guys seeing comparing your qualifying times to your racing trim times with full fuel?

4-5 or so seconds

For me, it's more 7-8 seconds.

I was at 8 now 6 to 7. I guess it is a matter of working on the race setup.

Jason White wrote:
The thing that worries me the most isn't so much the speed differential or fuel consumption, but surviving the opening laps with wings and four wheels!

Wings are replaceable...wheels and the bits that hold them on, not so much. My pit crew is well versed on replacing the front wing already.
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Karel Marciniszyn
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Martin Audran wrote:
I thought the first qualy session was tonight :doh:

All this concentration accumulated throughout the day for nothing :bangry: lol!

I never ever had a problem to lost concentration Smile
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Mike Becnel
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Woo hooo HOOO baby, thanks for the setup Karel.



And Guillaume gets the Duke's of Hazzard award for driving on two wheels after a jumping a curve. It was impressive and not for the faint of heart.

I wrote "do not do that during the race" next to the description in my notebook.
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Vincent Beretta
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Puis-je assister à la qualif en observateur ?
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Guillaume Siebert
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Guillaume Siebert


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Oui no soucis Smile
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Patrick Marucco
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Vincent Beretta wrote:
Puis-je assister à la qualif en observateur ?

Si je suis rentré à temps j'en serai egalement Wink
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