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+22Steve Parker Jon Lasa Bernard Jeanmart Luis Garcia Franck Tripey Gérard Ryon Philippe Martinelli Franck Mercurio jean michel Jérémy Bouteloup Roger Pitarque finally gone :) Frank Verplanken Laurent Binet Tiago Malafaya Yannick Lampure Thomas Cazorla Sasha Sosnowski Patrick Marucco Carlo Pozzi Bruno Frigiere Guillaume Siebert 26 posters | |
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jean michel Rookie
Number of posts : 21 Age : 44 Location : FR Registration date : 2009-01-01
| Subject: Re: Round 2 - Hockenheim Club Wed 26 May 2010 - 22:04 | |
| encore une excellente soirée sa fait plaisir de voir le sérieux comparé à d'autre serveurs bon sur ce circuit il y avait quelques endroit ou c'était limite hors piste mais bon faut limer et tout le monde prenait a peu près la même trajo une 1ère course avec une grosse pression je me trouve 4ème mais à l'usure je perd des places sur la 2e je mets la pression a franck et il gère bien avec sa béhème mais il commet une erreur en voyant qu'il prend un peu d'avance ... sûrement trop à zyeuter dans les rétros et surtout merci à gui pour son set vraiment tip top sans ce réglage sa aurait été une soirée galère avec une caisse qui tire trop de l'avant en grande courbe mais qui tient pas la réaccel | |
| | | Bruno Frigiere Club Driver
Number of posts : 149 Age : 55 Location : France Registration date : 2010-04-29
| Subject: Re: Round 2 - Hockenheim Club Wed 26 May 2010 - 22:09 | |
| Salut, Je poste a chaud parce que après j'ai du mal a me souvenir de tout, lol Encore une bien belle soirée passer parmi vous messieurs, j'en suis fortement ravie! Je n'arrive pas a sortir un temps de fou au qualifications, mais je ne suis pas a la traine alors je me contente de sa, première course, super, vraiment, en ce qui me concerne une attaque peut être un peut trop précipite me fait toucher une Mercedes qui me précède, va falloir que je revoie le replay pour pouvoir mettre un nom sur cette voiture et bien sur pouvoir m'excusai, même si j'ai levé le pied pour attendre j'ai u du mal parce que derrière ils ne voulez bien sur rien savoir et sa arrivé vite! Pour ma deuxième course, je me suis mieux régaler belle bagarre que j'ai u avec deux pilotes qui ne voulais rien lâcher, et ils avaient bien raison, merci encore pour ses bien belles soirée passé a vos cotées, bravos au vainqueurs merci a cette administration qui fait du très beau boulot et qui nous permet de bien s'amuser!!! PS: Merci a Philippe pour sont setup qui ma bien convenue! Tu voie Guillaume qu'il faut ce prendre un peut la tête avec les setup, la preuve, tu a fait un heureux ce soir, Benjamin Hartmann Message edité: Alors je viens de voir le replay, j'ai bousculer Carl Larrad, je tiens a m'excusai auprès de lui! "Carl Larrad, really sorry for this hooking really grieve also if the translation're not on top"
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| | | Guillaume Siebert League Owner
Number of posts : 13827 Age : 38 Location : Paris, France Registration date : 2008-09-08
| Subject: Re: Round 2 - Hockenheim Club Wed 26 May 2010 - 22:24 | |
| RACE 1 : => RESULTS <= => REPLAY <=
RACE 2 : => RESULTS <= => REPLAY <= | |
| | | Guillaume Siebert League Owner
Number of posts : 13827 Age : 38 Location : Paris, France Registration date : 2008-09-08
| | | | Thomas Cazorla Pro Driver
Number of posts : 858 Age : 47 Location : Earth Planet, Universe Registration date : 2008-11-17
| Subject: Re: Round 2 - Hockenheim Club Wed 26 May 2010 - 22:35 | |
| ah ben merde Gui Merci en tout cas pour le setup et à Frank pour les conseils pour être plus stable. Ca m'a permis de pas être ridicule alors que je découvrais la piste aux qualifs Well, I'm very happy with my 2 races, especially with the 1st where in gain 9 positions including 5 at the start I made all the race with Jean François and mostly with Osman. I passed him 2 times and I made mistakes both times immediately I finish 9th. 2nd race, I gain one position at the start while Frank made an spectacular flight After that I've resumed my clean battle with Jeff and Osman. I came to overtake both to catch the 8th position but I make a mistake at the same right slow turn and I return 10th. A couple of laps later Osman go straight in this stupid turn and I came back in fight with Jeff for this 8th position. I recover the gap lap after lap and I reach to pick his position. Now I'm in front of him and it's his round to be faster than me. I managed to keep this 8th place with a smooth and safe driving, and it's worked. I love this championship | |
| | | Laurent Binet Pro Driver
Number of posts : 718 Age : 34 Location : paris Registration date : 2009-08-08
| Subject: Re: Round 2 - Hockenheim Club Wed 26 May 2010 - 22:49 | |
| Bravo à tous 1ère course:Je ne vois pas les feux en fond de grille et je me fais grillé la politesse par une merco pourtant derrière moi. J'ai cru un instant qu'il avait volé le départ tellement il est parti vite En gros, je rate mon départ ! Bon finalement, je ne me débrouille pas si mal, je remonte 7/8 places je pense (une petite touchette sur patrick à l'intérieur optimiste sur un vibreur, soz). Il me redoublera plus tard. Et puis je vais m'accrocher avec Luis. Il me colle aux fesses, je deviens trop défensif. Dans le virage qui ramène sur la ligne droite, j'ai le sentiment qu'il me touche alors que je suis devant et je perds le contrôle de la voiture, je tente de maîtriser mais c'est trop tard je recroise sa route dans l'autre sens et je finis dans le tas de pneus. Course finie. A chaud, j'ai pensé que c'était sa faute car je pense qu'il me touche et ca me fait perdre le contrôle. Sur le ralenti, je suis devant et il me touche mais il est vrai que je me déporte très légèrement sur l'extérieur du virage, donc choc inévitable sauf à être debout sur les freins At start i cant see the lights and a merco right behind me just flies away. I thought he had jumped the start Well, i failed to start ! After that, i was doing ok, i gained 7/8 place i think (just a little contact with patrick on the interior of a turn, he'll overpass me later). And then i had in contact with luis. At the turn before the straight line, im ahead, i feel he pushes me just a little bit then i loose control of the car cross the straigjht line in front of him and finally hit the pile of tyres. Race over. At first i thought it was his fault, but hen i watched the replay and it's not so clear. Im ahead, he touches me but i went on the outside of th turn. He couldnt avoid it . 2nde course: Je pars encore loin mais j'aperçois un bout de feu rouge et je me dis, dès qu'ils disparaissent gazzzzzzz. Et ca marche. Le reste c'est surtout quelques tours de bagarre avec patrick et une autre voiture bien sympa. Je passe patrick, il me repasse, je reviens sur lui en fin de course malheureusement les pailotes de la tête de course arrivent, il faut laisser passer et après finito I start far away once more but this time i see the lights and i had a good start. For the rest, i had a fun fight with patrick and another car for a few laps. I overtook him, then he passed me back and then as i was coming back, i had to let go the leaders of the race. It was fun Petite question, le virage après la ligne droite, on est autorisé à le prendre comment en sortie parce que j'ai vu des gens bien ralentir pour sortir sur le vibreur tandis que d'autres allaient carrément hors de la piste pour la rejoindre au dernier moment avant le freinage suivant et la vitesse n'est plus la même | |
| | | Guillaume Siebert League Owner
Number of posts : 13827 Age : 38 Location : Paris, France Registration date : 2008-09-08
| Subject: Re: Round 2 - Hockenheim Club Wed 26 May 2010 - 22:54 | |
| Well I'm obviously massively disapointed from losing connexion in race 2 while leading. Its so hard to gain points with this scoring system, I dont know how many points I lost here but it will take me half season to make up for that Otherwise race 1 was almost perfect. Took the lead at the start but gave it to Carlo after losing the rear end braking into the Stadium. Then I had a good scrap with Carlo, clean as usual, managed to overtake him at T2 when he went too wide at T1. From here I could open the gap with Carlo quite easily, as he probably made the wrong choice of tyres. And big thanks to the lapped cars, simply perfect ===============
Bon ça me fait bien mal au derrière cette déco, je sais pas combien je perd mais avec ce barème d'épicier ça va me prendre la moitié de la saison pour remonter ça Sinon la course 1 fut presque parfaite. Un bon départ et je garde la tête, mais la perd après quelque tours en perdant l'arrière de la voiture sur un freinage dans le Stadium. S'en suit une bonne bagarre avec Carlo, propre comme d'hab, j'ai pu le dépasser au T2 et à partir de là l'écart a bien augmenté, probablement parce qu'il n'avait pas choisi les bons pneus. Et un grand merci aux retardataires, juste parfaits ce soir
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| | | Carlo Pozzi Pro Driver
Number of posts : 805 Age : 33 Location : Milan, Italy Registration date : 2009-11-28
| Subject: Re: Round 2 - Hockenheim Club Wed 26 May 2010 - 22:59 | |
| Well, mediums-mediums wasn't a good choice indeed (especially with 60kg mass penalty) In the 2nd race i changed to hards on the front and mediums on the rear and it worked, especially in the 2nd part of the race, i was consistantly lapping 0.8-1s faster than in race 1. | |
| | | Frank Verplanken League Owner
Number of posts : 13574 Age : 49 Location : Nice, France Registration date : 2008-09-08
| Subject: Re: Round 2 - Hockenheim Club Wed 26 May 2010 - 23:07 | |
| I had a decent qualy but I started on softs all around and I went slower and slower as the race progressed. I hit Tiago at the hairpin, sorry again mate , and later on I hit the tires hard in turn 1. The last laps were awful with the car turning all by itself in the left hand turn of the Stadium... too bad it's the only left hander of the track ! Race 2 thanks to Sasha's setup I was much more consistent. I took my customary supernatural start and most of the race was spent trying to keep Benjamin behind. In the closing laps I spun twice at the hairpin, not too sure why. Anyway great race, thanks Benjamin you got me sweating ^^ ! I hit Franck Mercurio in traffic, sorry about that . Grats to all, it looked like a very clean race with very few crashes and retirements, and this on the track where they were more likely to happen . Well done Carlo, too bad Gui . @Franck Mercurio - désolé pour la touchette dans la course 2, j'ai plongé à l'inter au moment où tu y allais aussi pour me laisser passer . | |
| | | Gianluca Desposito Racing Legend
Number of posts : 1303 Age : 48 Location : Naples Italy Registration date : 2009-09-14
| Subject: Re: Round 2 - Hockenheim Club Wed 26 May 2010 - 23:57 | |
| I'm sorry for leaving, I was enjoying so much LOL CARL LOL!!! | |
| | | Sasha Sosnowski Experienced Driver
Number of posts : 219 Age : 34 Location : Warsaw, PL Registration date : 2009-11-15
| Subject: Re: Round 2 - Hockenheim Club Thu 27 May 2010 - 0:57 | |
| Well a much better Round 2 for me here in Hockenheim. Ther Merc's continue to be very quick, and even with the weight penalties they had a clear advantage over the Bimmer's in the first and third sectors. I really struggled with the rear-end sliding a LOT, but luckily I found something in practice to help a tad and it saved me from my earlier worries. I pretty much focused on scoring a podium, and luckily I was about third all day in all aspects. Qualifying was okay, I could have gone quicker, but all in all fourth as JP pipped at the end to give Mercedes the 1-2-3. I got off to my usual good start but didn't calculate T1 very well and dropped a few positions by T2. I had some good racing through the few cars ahead and finally settled in for third. The first race was quite interesting because the top three were so much quicker than the rest, I don't really know why. I knew I had nothing for the Benz's but I stayed in contact all race long hoping for an error which never came. Fourth place was some 30 seconds behind. Second race I started well again, got up to second but still Carlo's Mercedes was all over me and a pass was going to be inevitable. He did get by me, and I followed very close, touring car style as I had to hold up the honour of BMW against those pesky Mercs. I gave him a little nudge and didn't expect him to completely slide but he did, JP passed us both and then I got some retaliation, which was expected and I'm glad the fans got some true intense Stuttgart Benz - Munich BMW battling, even if it did turn out to be an AMG washout for the weekend. I do think my tap on Carlo hurt him much less then his on me in the long run, but that's racing and worthy of a video highlight. From there I got to race a Sierra hard, but Tiago lost it in the kink and I set about chasing Jeremy, who was pretty much even with me. He ended up having trouble in T1 late on and I'm glad to have grabbed double third places, which is all I could have expected. I was also third most consistent, third fastest laps, I think I upheld BMW as well as I could. Overall however we need to go back to the shop and take a look at how we can bring something to the table against those silver arrows. We'll see in the coming rounds. As I said earlier, excellent, intense series, glad to be a part of it. | |
| | | Jon Lasa Club Driver
Number of posts : 112 Age : 45 Location : Green Capital 2012 Registration date : 2010-05-20
| Subject: Re: Round 2 - Hockenheim Club Thu 27 May 2010 - 7:13 | |
| Sorry for my first race on HSO I didn't race the qualy, these days all went fast and my idea was to participate in the next race because I didn't train circuit, car and race. I only made around 4 or 5 laps before the race. I wasn't constant and suppose I bother to more than one driver I just joined to server 5 mins before the second race, hadn't got setup, and I started with standard one and hard tyres because I didn't know if softers would be enough to arrive finish When I loss a bit of time with others, I thought it was impossible to made something on this race, and when I saw the compound of hard tyres was methacrylate, went to box, change the tires to soft and I tried to make laps to know bit more the BMW for next races trying to bother the minimum the other racers. Sorry, sometimes I went directly off of the track because I found a lot of traffic on this circuit, maybe because it's a bit short Hope I can train bit more for next race using this races info too and can give you better image about me See you EDIT: Thanks to organisation and Congratulations to podium drivers | |
| | | Jean-François Bovy Pro Driver
Number of posts : 907 Age : 46 Location : Brussels, Belgium Registration date : 2008-09-20
| Subject: Re: Round 2 - Hockenheim Club Thu 27 May 2010 - 8:54 | |
| 2 super courses à nouveau ! j'ai roulé en soft-soft dans les 2 manches, pour la première c'était bien, pour le seconde ça n'a pas tenu la première course était plus calme après un début mouvementé, dommage que je me prends les "pneus" au V1, ce qui me fait perdre 3 places, parce qu'j'avais bien profité du début de course pour grapiller des positions la seconde manche est plus soutenue, en début de course, je vais plus vite que mes poursuivants directs mais au fur et à mesure, ça devient de plus en plus difficile et Thomas finira par passer à 2 tours de la fin après une empoignade chaude et propre ! j'aurais peut-être du essayer les pneus médiums pour la 2ième, mais ça avait si bien tenu en 1ière que je pensais gagner du temps en soft... bravo aux vainqueurs du jour et vivement la suivante ! | |
| | | Guillaume Siebert League Owner
Number of posts : 13827 Age : 38 Location : Paris, France Registration date : 2008-09-08
| Subject: Re: Round 2 - Hockenheim Club Thu 27 May 2010 - 9:51 | |
| Classements à jour sur le site.
Standings updated on the website. | |
| | | Carlo Pozzi Pro Driver
Number of posts : 805 Age : 33 Location : Milan, Italy Registration date : 2009-11-28
| Subject: Re: Round 2 - Hockenheim Club Thu 27 May 2010 - 13:45 | |
| - Sasha Sosnowski wrote:
Second race I started well again, got up to second but still Carlo's Mercedes was all over me and a pass was going to be inevitable. He did get by me, and I followed very close, touring car style as I had to hold up the honour of BMW against those pesky Mercs. I gave him a little nudge and didn't expect him to completely slide but he did It was JP's Mercedes, not mine, i was right behind, being a spectator of an awesome battle (until it lasted..) This time i didn't need a lot of practice to be competitive, was the fastest in practice, but couldn't find a perfect lap in qualy, probably because of the 60kg penalty. Qualified 2nd , quite far behind Gui. Race 1: Got a good start and followed Gui pretty closely, i took the lead when he spun at Sachskurve, but from lap 10 my medium tyres were quite worn, tried to resist for 2 or 3 laps but had to give up when i went wide at T2. Then i tried to follow him again, but he managed to open a good gap easily. So i slowed down a bit and controlled the gap to Sasha, finishing 6 secs behind Gui. Race 2: Made a few changes on setup, changed to hards on the front. Got a quite bad start and lost 2 places to Sasha and JP, couldn't follow them for the first 4-5 laps, because my hards struggled to get the correct working temperature, then i was starting to close the gap to them, until JP nearly spun and collected Sasha, so i was through into 2nd. I was closing the gap to Gui from 4.5 to 2s, when he got a disconnect(bad luck m8), then my race was quite easy, my pace in the 2nd half of the race was still in the low-mid 08s, which was 1s faster than in race 1, opening the gap to JP and winning quite confortably. See you at the Nurburgring! | |
| | | Thomas Cazorla Pro Driver
Number of posts : 858 Age : 47 Location : Earth Planet, Universe Registration date : 2008-11-17
| | | | finally gone :) Racing Legend
Number of posts : 3192 Age : 32 Location : Registration date : 2008-10-27
| Subject: Re: Round 2 - Hockenheim Club Thu 27 May 2010 - 14:08 | |
| Carlo, in qualify, you didn't have a clean lap in qualify because you were too occupied to push me off track, because you're used to run on the track as if you're alone. During the first race, Jérémy sent me to a spin, and I was facing the wrong way, with traffic coming. It took me an awful lot of time to restart, but he was still waiting Can't be mad to someone fair play, really. Second race, I started 4th and managed to get in 2nd after few laps, and then I didn't spin... I was just pushed into another spin. This time, I could restart quickly, in fact I wasn't far from Sasha's rear bumper, but no wait nor fair play there. I was faster than him and it didn't take me long to catch him again. It wasn't intentional but I sent him to a spin as well. Last year was the same, someone decided to put me into the pitwall which cost me a victory, this year another possible victory gone. I'm certainly not hitting first, but if someone wants to race roughly with me, I'm in @Thomas : ca me l'a fait aussi... en course | |
| | | Tiago Malafaya Racing Legend
Number of posts : 3384 Age : 47 Location : Porto, Portugal Registration date : 2008-10-05
| Subject: Re: Round 2 - Hockenheim Club Thu 27 May 2010 - 14:27 | |
| Another nightmare circuit for the Sierra comes to an end. The car always feels good in the first 5 or 6 laps. The option Meds/meds doesn't work. The car overheats the tyres and looses a lot of grip. By the end of race 1 I couldn't get any faster than 1:10.
In the second race the tyres were better, but still I need an option of Very hard tyres.....
two 5ths overall isn't bad since this track is awful for my car and I reall ydon't enjoy driving it. | |
| | | Steve Parker Racing Legend
Number of posts : 2000 Age : 65 Location : England uk Registration date : 2008-12-22
| Subject: Re: Round 2 - Hockenheim Club Thu 27 May 2010 - 15:02 | |
| A hit up the rear going into turn 1 ended race 1 for me to much damage to continue,then phone rings and call out to work so could not start race 2 | |
| | | Luis Garcia Club Driver
Number of posts : 162 Age : 46 Location : Barcelona (Spain) Registration date : 2009-07-25
| Subject: Re: Round 2 - Hockenheim Club Thu 27 May 2010 - 16:15 | |
| - Laurent Binet wrote:
And then i had in contact with luis. At the turn before the straight line, im ahead, i feel he pushes me just a little bit then i loose control of the car cross the straigjht line in front of him and finally hit the pile of tyres. Race over. At first i thought it was his fault, but hen i watched the replay and it's not so clear. Im ahead, he touches me but i went on the outside of th turn. He couldnt avoid it .
sorry Laurent but you are out of my angle of vision..believed that we had not touched. very fun races for my, always in the back of the field but very very funny | |
| | | Guillaume Siebert League Owner
Number of posts : 13827 Age : 38 Location : Paris, France Registration date : 2008-09-08
| Subject: Re: Round 2 - Hockenheim Club Thu 27 May 2010 - 17:26 | |
| - Thomas Cazorla wrote:
- Ca vous le fait aussi ça sur les replays?
Non j'ai pas vu ça en course ni en replay. C'est bien le replay serveur que tu utilises ? Les mauvaises langues diront que Franky et toi n'êtes que l'ombre de vous mêmes
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| | | Sasha Sosnowski Experienced Driver
Number of posts : 219 Age : 34 Location : Warsaw, PL Registration date : 2009-11-15
| Subject: Re: Round 2 - Hockenheim Club Thu 27 May 2010 - 17:34 | |
| - Carlo Pozzi wrote:
It was JP's Mercedes, not mine, i was right behind, being a spectator of an awesome battle (until it lasted..)
Ah understood lol! I don't race with the tags, and I only use the HUD sparingly to check on the tyres, so I was just guessing. Alls well though! - JP Campmajo wrote:
I'm certainly not hitting first, but if someone wants to race roughly with me, I'm in
Yea no problem, I love cars with usable bumpers, the videos get me hyped up! Great series! | |
| | | Thomas Cazorla Pro Driver
Number of posts : 858 Age : 47 Location : Earth Planet, Universe Registration date : 2008-11-17
| Subject: Re: Round 2 - Hockenheim Club Thu 27 May 2010 - 17:43 | |
| - Guillaume Siebert wrote:
Non j'ai pas vu ça en course ni en replay. C'est bien le replay serveur que tu utilises ? Les mauvaises langues que Franky et toi n'êtes que l'ombre de vous mêmes Ca le fait sur mes replays et sur les replays serveur J'avais deja le même soucis sur Zolder. Par contre aucun soucis en course, c'est juste sur les replays chez moi. | |
| | | Frank Verplanken League Owner
Number of posts : 13574 Age : 49 Location : Nice, France Registration date : 2008-09-08
| Subject: Re: Round 2 - Hockenheim Club Thu 27 May 2010 - 17:45 | |
| - Guillaume Siebert wrote:
- Les mauvaises langues que Franky et toi n'êtes que l'ombre de vous mêmes
Elles disent aussi, ces mauvaises langues, que tu pourrai être moins avare de tes verbes, auvergnat . | |
| | | Guillaume Siebert League Owner
Number of posts : 13827 Age : 38 Location : Paris, France Registration date : 2008-09-08
| Subject: Re: Round 2 - Hockenheim Club Thu 27 May 2010 - 18:00 | |
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