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 Round 1 - Checker 200 [20th Jan]

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Pascal Mikula
Timo Vermeersch
Raul Jereb
Jonatan Acerclinth
Petr Hlavac
Martin Lacina
Jason White
Jason Fitch
Richard Wilks
Rhys Gardiner
Raymond Riddall
Mick Chapman
Adam Hackman
David Jundt
David Jaques
David Sabre
Jason Whited
John Thim
Grant Riddall
Austin Johnson
Rob Swindells
Alberto Ibañez
Juha Bos
Jacob Fredriksson
Richard Coxon
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Richard Coxon
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Richard Coxon


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The reason why you only get fresh ones is because we have the server set to let you have unlimited amount of tires.

F1 71 you was only allowed 3 hence you having to choose between the 3 sets.
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Raul Jereb
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Richard Coxon wrote:
The reason why you only get fresh ones is because we have the server set to let you have unlimited amount of tires.

F1 71 you was only allowed 3 hence you having to choose between the 3 sets.

I gues this means we cant have both, choosing and unlimited sets?? What if you set limitation to 100? would that do any difrence?

just asking.. dont want to sound anoying.

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Richard Coxon
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You're not being annoying at all Smile . The max we can set it too is 10, but the CART teams had more tires sets available to them than that i believe.
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Pascal Mikula
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Alberto Ibañez wrote:
Very wise words from our current Indycar88 champion. At ovals the qualy setup can, and usually is, very different from the race one, as you go at the edge on just two laps.

In anybody is struggling to find a decent race setup, post here and we will provide a baseline one for your car. Then you can train with it and tweak it slightly to your needs.

Please sir may I have some ädvice

Seriously tho, I've been trying to adjust my driving style mostly but all I can really do is put up a somewhat decent qualifying lap. A baseline race setup would be greatly approved (March 88 - Porsche)
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Richard Coxon
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I'm sure we can give you a setup, no problem, but from watching you the other night when a lot of us was on the server, part of it is driving technique, you we're entering the corners way too quick. Getting the right technique will help you a lot more than a good setup.
If you enter too quick, the car will understeer, so you apply more steering lock to combat the understeer and then eventually when you have slowed enough, the front end will suddenly grip and then you will spin out as you have got way too much steering input. I used to do the same, but then Alberto spent a short amount of time with me and then i learnt.
Slow up a bit more going into the turn and you will find you are going quicker, even though it feels slower. If you've changed since then, then ignore me, you've already learnt Smile

You can have the best setup in the world, but if your technique is off, you will still struggle.

No offence is intended, i am just merely offering advice, take it on board if you wish. Smile
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Alberto Ibañez
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Sure thing, I will prepare one for you later today.
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Pascal Mikula
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Richard Coxon wrote:
I'm sure we can give you a setup, no problem, but from watching you the other night when a lot of us was on the server, part of it is driving technique, you we're entering the corners way too quick. Getting the right technique will help you a lot more than a good setup.
If you enter too quick, the car will understeer, so you apply more steering lock to combat the understeer and then eventually when you have slowed enough, the front end will suddenly grip and then you will spin out as you have got way too much steering input. I used to do the same, but then Alberto spent a short amount of time with me and then i learnt.
Slow up a bit more going into the turn and you will find you are going quicker, even though it feels slower. If you've changed since then, then ignore me, you've already learnt  Smile

You can have the best setup in the world, but if your technique is off, you will still struggle.

No offence is intended, i am just merely offering advice, take it on board if you wish. Smile

I know that, but I've been working a lot and very late since November, so I haven't got as much time to practice *everything* as i had before. 
Alberto Ibañez wrote:

Sure thing, I will prepare one for you later today.

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Raul Jereb
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Pascal Mikula wrote:

I know that, but I've been working a lot and very late since November, so I haven't got as much time to practice *everything* as i had before. 

Pascal, you are in March, right?
Ill be later afternoon/evening on the server and pass you mine.
David helped me a bit with it, and at the maybe is a bit conservative, but it is vary stable and not on the edge!

see you later.
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Jason Fitch
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Raul Jereb wrote:

And one more question. Staggered tyres, in-car pit-menu offers all 4 tyres to be staggered, and as I understood only right ones are staggered, so, what is a proper choise if Im driving on 0.15 stagger..
grazie!

Correct, only the Right sides are staggered, if you're running a .15 Stagger then choose the tire option that says .15 Stagger. With the pit choices you're basically choosing if you want Both Right sides staggered the same or if you want the Front tires Staggered less than the rears.
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THe front tires are not staggered. It doesn't matter what you pick, the front tires will never be staggered, only the rears.
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Raul Jereb
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Richard Wilks wrote:
THe front tires are not staggered. It doesn't matter what you pick, the front tires will never be staggered, only the rears.


Jason, Richard, thanks.. but please, just confirm to me, while making a pit-stop, if I am on 0.15 what should I pick, or to be more clear: if I left the default - all 4 tyres .15, Ill get what I started with?

thank you
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Richard Coxon
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Yes.
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Please download the following file to avoid mismatch on the server:

--> Updated SRS file <--
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Jason Whited
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Dear Lord,

Please don't let me take out the Rick Mears car, like my driver did in '88 affraid

....please!

lol!

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Martin Lacina
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What is the maximum right tyres temperature in the corners without loosing a grip? Im trying to rotate with wheel less in the corners which helps a lot but still have in the corners front around 125-130 and rear a little but less. I would not belive how different are the Lolas 8700 8800. Wings for 8800 doesnt work for 8700. I have to set them to 38/4 to make the car balanced in the corners. But im still too slow.
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Alberto Ibañez
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Martin if you have too much understeer you can raise the rear of the car instead of adding front wing. These cars are above all ground effects machines, so get first the floor correct and then just balance with wings.
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Timo Vermeersch
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Two observations of a set-up novice:

1° let's hope that all this talk about stagger will result in a fabulous stag party come Sunday;

2° this pretty much all sounds like Chinese to me...

:jp: :jp: Laughing Laughing Laughing

Timo
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Richard Coxon
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Juha Bos wrote:
Please download the following file to avoid mismatch on the server:

--> Updated SRS file <--

BUMP
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Rob Swindells
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http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?file_id=23843268127285440419

My March 88C Cosworth setup if it helps anyone :flag:
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Richard Coxon
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Richard Coxon wrote:
We will be doing a test race on Saturday (Same timing as the official race except 40 laps) so we can check for any issues.

Anybody is welcome and presence isn't mandatory. If you do not have a full time car thought, we ask you to appear in any free or one off cars.

Thanks. :top:

Bump.
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Test race server is up.
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Alberto Ibañez
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I'll be joining later in the practice :top:
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Austin Johnson
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Alberto Ibañez wrote:
I'll be joining later in the practice :top:

Same here
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Austin Johnson wrote:
Alberto Ibañez wrote:
I'll be joining later in the practice :top:

Same here

30 mins left of practice :top:
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Alberto Ibañez
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Sry Austin my fault, saw you there but somehow was expecting you to close trajectory more and allow us to do the turn two-wide as I had done some laps before while overtaking people.
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