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Carl Larrad
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Carl Larrad


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PostSubject: Standing Start   Standing Start Icon_minitimeFri 31 Jul 2009 - 7:22

This will probably sound like a really stupid question
but how do i make a fast getaway from the grid of a race from a standing start ...911 Is the worst ... Question

I Feel that i have improved a lot since racing on HSO
but always struggle to get off the grid which spoils my race
and whoever is behind me a couple of times ive been so slow off the start
ive held up the person behind me.... Embarassed The only time i dont seem to have this problem
is when using the mini i think this maybe because its front wheel drive and
all the weight is on the front it has Better grip... But then im only guessing...


I Use a Red Momo steering wheel ,this is my race start sequence i basically
put the car in gear and leave it in 1st then accelerate as soon as the lights change to green ...
Do i need to assign a button to clutch or something ....I Notice everyone reving up around me
but when i do this the car pulls forward and i would get a jump start ...

Am i right in thinking the G25 has a third pedal which you assign as the clutch ...

I Would love to get a G25 but work is in short supply at the moment so will have to hold off
until i can afford one ...

Was also wondering does anyone else on here still use a Red Momo Wheel.... :hum:

Thx for the Help
Carlos
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Ludovic Tiengou
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PostSubject: Re: Standing Start   Standing Start Icon_minitimeFri 31 Jul 2009 - 10:05

The 911 is not a good car at start. At start it's a real iron whatever you do. The Mini is light and quite reactive it helps at start.

You don't have to worry about your bad start. Those behind, well, that's part of racing you know. It happens the guy in front of you is a bad starter. I've the same problem in F1 79 as the Shadow isn't a good car. And you're not a real bad starter as shown in DTM.
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Frank Verplanken
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PostSubject: Re: Standing Start   Standing Start Icon_minitimeFri 31 Jul 2009 - 10:35

Before my G25 I had a DFP which only has 2 pedals. I assigned a button on the steering wheel for the clutch which I only used for starts. This way I could put the car in first gear, rev it up with the clutch button engaged and launch the car at the green. Another alternative if you don't have a clutch pedal is revving up the car in neutral gear and engaging 1st gear at the green... needs some practice tho and it can hurt some engines badly - not a problem with most rFactor mods I think, but often lethal in GPL :D .
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Vincent Beretta
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PostSubject: Re: Standing Start   Standing Start Icon_minitimeFri 31 Jul 2009 - 12:22

Il y a une autre solution que j'ai longtemps utilisée.
Il faut affecter l'embrayage à un bouton du volant.
on appuie sur le bouton pour debrayer, on passe la 1ere et on lache le bouton au départ. Ca permet de faire des démarrages presque "normaux".

Sorry carl, my english is so bad, I'm not able to translate (and I'm so lazy) Smile
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Frank Verplanken
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PostSubject: Re: Standing Start   Standing Start Icon_minitimeFri 31 Jul 2009 - 13:07

Pas de problèmes Vincent c'est exactement ce que j'ai dis à Carl en anglais lol!
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Guillaume Siebert
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PostSubject: Re: Standing Start   Standing Start Icon_minitimeFri 31 Jul 2009 - 13:12

Same technique than Frank for me Smile

Having a clutch pedal is very useful, especially with low powered cars, it helps you a lot to make the tyres spin. But as you dont have one, use Frank's second technique. Not the best, but still better than what you're doing now I think Wink
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Vincent Beretta
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PostSubject: Re: Standing Start   Standing Start Icon_minitimeFri 31 Jul 2009 - 13:46

Frank Verplanken wrote:
Pas de problèmes Vincent c'est exactement ce que j'ai dis à Carl en anglais lol!

Quand je dis que mon anglais est mauvais ... Sad Wink

En fait, j'avais lu en diagonale ... toujours trop pressé Rolling Eyes
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Carl Larrad
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PostSubject: Re: Standing Start   Standing Start Icon_minitimeFri 31 Jul 2009 - 19:04

Thx Ludo ,Vincent ,Franck and Guillaume that was just the help i needed
Thx Guys i guess i need more practice on my starts ....

C'était Juste l'aide J'ai eu besoin
Je devine J'ai besoin Plus de pratique Sur mes démarrages .....
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Carl Larrad
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PostSubject: Re: Standing Start   Standing Start Icon_minitimeFri 31 Jul 2009 - 19:09

I was wondering my engine went in the 911 in the last race
Could this be because i never increased my radaitor size
as i know this is important in some mods .... scratch

Would this decrease the impact of revving the engine in
Neutral before the start of the race if i dont have a clutch .... :hum:
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Steve Parker
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PostSubject: Re: Standing Start   Standing Start Icon_minitimeFri 31 Jul 2009 - 19:33

The engine blows if you hit first gear carl,mostly if you have revs set at 8000,drop revs 1 click and less chance of blowing it :top:
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PostSubject: Re: Standing Start   Standing Start Icon_minitimeFri 31 Jul 2009 - 20:00

Steve Parker wrote:
The engine blows if you hit first gear carl,mostly if you have revs set at 8000,drop revs 1 click and less chance of blowing it :top:
Are you taking the Miss , i went from 5th to 4th at the end of the main straight
i never went anywhere near 1st gear Leave me alone LOL !!!!
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Steve Parker
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PostSubject: Re: Standing Start   Standing Start Icon_minitimeFri 31 Jul 2009 - 21:50

lol! but if your running 8000 rpm in car it will blow with excessive redlining the revmeter when changing gear,drop the revs 1 click in your setup :hum:
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PostSubject: Re: Standing Start   Standing Start Icon_minitimeFri 31 Jul 2009 - 23:47

OK I Have assigned a button on my wheel for the clutch and also tried Franks method of reving in Neutral
changing into 1st when the lights change and both methods work great not sure which one im going to stick to
but both methods work so much better than i expected ...

Thx Guys ...
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PostSubject: Re: Standing Start   Standing Start Icon_minitimeFri 7 Aug 2009 - 18:22

THX Guys with your help this is sorted
had no problems at Linkoping holding anyone up :top:
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