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 Round 14 - Gran Premio de Espana [Oct 22nd]

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Grant Riddall
Alberto Ibañez
Victor Alcocer
Rossetti Paolo
Chris Stephens
Simon Wattman
Raul Jereb
John Thim
Roberto Mello
Jason Fitch
David Jaques
Emmanuel Haas
François Remmen
Philippe Martinelli
Raymond Riddall
Florkin Marc
Michal Janak
Jonatan Acerclinth
David Jundt
Gérard Ryon
Yves Plaçais
Bruno Chacon
Gabriele Del Piccolo
Victor Montenegro
Mick Chapman
Pascal Mikula
Jason Whited
Cláudio Augusto
Martin Lacina
Juha Bos
Jason White
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Jason White
Racing Legend
Jason White


Number of posts : 14725
Age : 47
Location : Ferndale, MI USA
Registration date : 2011-12-25

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So the barrier next to the fast chicane is not solid?  Is that what we are saying?
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David Jundt
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David Jundt


Number of posts : 2647
Age : 34
Location : Binningen, Switzerland
Registration date : 2012-07-14

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If Mike doesn't turn up/confirm until the start of the second qualifying session, can I borrow his Leyton House(#16)?
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Jason Whited
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Jason Whited


Number of posts : 581
Age : 39
Location : Virginia, USA
Registration date : 2017-03-08

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Jason White wrote:
So the barrier next to the fast chicane is not solid?  Is that what we are saying?

Yeah. I tried to link a vid Bruno made, didn't work.
Haven't seen it myself, still getting files on new machine. Just relaying for him because language barrier issues.
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Richard Coxon
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Richard Coxon


Number of posts : 16590
Age : 36
Location : Sheffield, England
Registration date : 2012-06-29

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I've seen the video, and where the barrier in mention is, if you go through it, you are intentionally cutting the corner and following chicane.

There is no need to take action on this IMO. Because people shouldn't even be turning up that section of the track.
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Jason White
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Jason White


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Age : 47
Location : Ferndale, MI USA
Registration date : 2011-12-25

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We are still having issues with lap count in qualy, 2 laps added on each run for some. 
So here is what we will do.

The lap limit for Q2 will be turned off,  that will allow everyone to do four runs, which is what would be reasonable to expect (each run consisting of one out lap, one flying lap and one in lap).

3 laps x 4 runs = 12 laps

adding the 2 erroneous laps to each run, no one should be shown as completing more than 20 laps.

Those of you who are not having issues, we will expect you to honor the 12 lap rule.  Please do not make things more difficult for us than they need to be. Anyone showing 20 laps maximum will be expected to leave the server. If they attempt another run, they will be kicked.
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David Jundt
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David Jundt


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Location : Binningen, Switzerland
Registration date : 2012-07-14

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@Victor Alcocer

You raced with Herbert's helmet, but you should pick Michael Bartels please.
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David Jaques
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David Jaques


Number of posts : 512
Age : 43
Location : Canada
Registration date : 2013-03-28

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Bruno Chacon
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Bruno Chacon


Number of posts : 476
Age : 64
Location : Brazil
Registration date : 2017-03-08

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David Jaques wrote:
from canada forum thread
http://historicsimracing.123.st/t3465p50-round-5-grand-prix-molson-du-canada-mar-5th


Richard Coxon wrote:
A reminder to all drivers, you must keep all 4 wheels on track. The kerb is part of the track.

We have received messages from people about some drivers bending this rule.

Please keep 4 wheels on track, we don't want to have to put anti cut barrels on every corner.

Thank you.

some who weren't part of the series back then might have missed this point.  admins please confirm we are still going by this rule.

i saw some seemingly accidental going over the limits and then some that didnt even seem like they were trying to keep it on the surface.  full disclosure, my best lap i was a bit early on the entry to the chicane which put my wide for the 2nd apex and i put half a tire in the dirt over the curb.  if needed please use my 2nd best time 21.5x which was clean.  the people putting half or more of their car over the curb into the dirt need to take responsibility.  the league shouldnt require policing, it should be mostly self run on respect and honour.

best,
dave

100% agree
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Jason White
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Jason White


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Age : 47
Location : Ferndale, MI USA
Registration date : 2011-12-25

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Final Qualifying Results
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Victor Montenegro
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Victor Montenegro


Number of posts : 63
Age : 28
Location : Natal, Brazil
Registration date : 2017-06-06

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:conduit:  :flag: :flag: :flag:
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François Remmen
Pro Driver
François Remmen


Number of posts : 880
Age : 43
Location : Netherlands
Registration date : 2012-12-22

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thank you Jason for this great solution

we did a small test race and seems its all ok

you deserved to start here!

also please use the correct skins for your car guys

Riolo use correct skin for your  Ligier!

one of the brabham drivers has to choose nr 8 of Blundell
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Jason White
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Jason White


Number of posts : 14725
Age : 47
Location : Ferndale, MI USA
Registration date : 2011-12-25

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François Remmen wrote:
thank you Jason for this great solution

we did a small test race and seems its all ok

you deserved to start here!

also please use the correct skins for your car guys

Riolo use correct skin for your  Ligier!

one of the brabham drivers has to choose nr 8 of Blundell

Did you test pit stops as well?
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François Remmen
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François Remmen


Number of posts : 880
Age : 43
Location : Netherlands
Registration date : 2012-12-22

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Yes all good , once everybody is on the grid the pitboxes will be there where they belong
IN THE PITSTREET , so from where i stand now its a go tomorrow
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Congratulations for my brasilian friends, happy to see them in the race.

Victor on pole, he deserved it. Mello on his first race with Jordan and qualified, Augusto made a miracle with his AGS. :drink: :hello:

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Victor Montenegro
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Victor Montenegro


Number of posts : 63
Age : 28
Location : Natal, Brazil
Registration date : 2017-06-06

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Philippe Henrique wrote:
Congratulations for my brasilian friends, happy to see them in the race.

Victor on pole, he deserved it.  Mello on his first race with Jordan and qualified, Augusto made a miracle with his AGS.  :drink:  :hello:



I was also pleased to see five Brazilians classified! :drink: now is to prepare for the race of tomorrow that will be very hard! :aie:
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Cláudio Augusto
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Number of posts : 118
Age : 30
Location : Brazil
Registration date : 2015-02-07

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Philippe Henrique wrote:
Congratulations for my brasilian friends, happy to see them in the race.

Victor on pole, he deserved it.  Mello on his first race with Jordan and qualified, Augusto made a miracle with his AGS.  :drink:  :hello:


Gotta say thanks to Jonathan for the very good setup. It's a shame that i managed to mess up with everything and almost stayed out of the grid. Let's see what we can do in the race Smile

Victor it's out of the act, damn. We three gonna start on the back and try to do our best, let's see...
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Jason White
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Jason White


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Age : 47
Location : Ferndale, MI USA
Registration date : 2011-12-25

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I apologize for the confusion regarding the tires-on-track rule.  The general rule across all series has always been two tires minimum on the track at all times;  any other assertions are either incorrect or misinformation.
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David Jundt
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David Jundt


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Age : 34
Location : Binningen, Switzerland
Registration date : 2012-07-14

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François Remmen wrote:

also please use the correct skins for your car guys

Riolo use correct skin for your  Ligier!

one of the brabham drivers has to choose nr 8 of Blundell

+ The Bartels Lotus for Victor Alcocer

I know it's not mandatory, but I created this list for a reason guys.

I do it so you don't have to think much :langue:


Track's quite nice, the Leyton House also felt good, although I haven't really had the chance to get accustomed to the conditions a lot.

With me going to the Zürich Game Show tomorrow, I might have not much time for that anyway and will just look to bring the car home in one piece(this time).
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Mick Chapman
Pro Driver
Mick Chapman


Number of posts : 695
Age : 57
Location : Wales/Pays de Galles
Registration date : 2014-01-04

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I would like to allow the server to run for the 5 lap race if I am on the server alone at the end of free practice.

I realise I could do this off-line, but I am convinced the car behaves differently.(offline/online)
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Yves Plaçais
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Yves Plaçais


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Age : 63
Location : Angers, France.
Registration date : 2008-12-18

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Un repas de famille imprévu va m'empêcher de participer au GP de ce soir, désolé ! :chinois:
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Jason White
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Jason White


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Yves Plaçais wrote:
Un repas de famille imprévu va m'empêcher de participer au GP de ce soir, désolé ! :chinois:

The Footwork team thanks you for the heads up :top:
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Jason White
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Mick Chapman wrote:
I would like to allow the server to run for the 5 lap race if I am on the server alone at the end of free practice.

I realise I could do this off-line, but I am convinced the car behaves differently.(offline/online)

Ok I’ll change the server setting once I am out of bed :papy: Sleep

EDIT: Done
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Alex Riolo
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Location : milano
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ok Jason, sorry... :top:
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Roberto Mello
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Just to confirm guys, the Jordan upgrade 2 is the Montreal configuration ?
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Roberto Mello wrote:
Just to confirm guys, the Jordan upgrade 2 is the Montreal configuration ?

yes
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