Historic numbers game

A little known F1 :



F1 as in the top category of BRISCA racing Stock Car racing as it is understood in the UK, i.e. specials build with stock parts and raced on small dirt ovals. Derek Warwick started racing on such cars if memory serves.

Timo Vermeersch wrote:

Frank Verplanken wrote:

Was that a Camaro at some point ?

Think it's just 2nd or 3rd generation Manta.

Timo

Was there a 3rd gen Manta?

Opel Manta B, Kissling prepared 255 hp 2 litre (bored out from 1.8l) engine with a 16 valve head donated form a Kadett GSi. Carbon fibre hood, front fascia, doors, trunk lid and dashboard, Sequential 6 speed gearbox, Porsche master cylinder, Mercedes C-class radiator Drexler LSD and a couple more modern goodies. Weight 930 kg, still the force in the VLN 2l class, fan favourite, and is able to circles the Nordschleife/GP circuit combi under 9.15. Never complete without a fox tail on the antenna, and that since 1994

Fox tail on the antenna Weren't there some shared components at some points between early Mantas and the Camaro, via the all GM grand scheme of things ? Or maybe it was just some racing Mantas that used Camaro parts, seem to remember something about that.

Frank Verplanken wrote:

One for our Czech members, the Giom Mk3 with 2-litre BMW engine :

I know the guy who currently owns that car...very elegant prototype not even considering what was available back in those days behind iron curtain...

Excellent Karel Yes very slick indeed !

Michael Drechsler wrote:

Was there a 3rd gen Manta?

First there was the Manta A:



Then there was a Manta B and B2:





I think, B2 and B coexisted as of the latter's introduction somewhere around 77. The B was actually marketed as a Manta hatchback.

In 1982, both the B and B2 received a face-lift, which could be seen as a third generation. But there are in fact indeed only 2 gens.

Timo

Cooper Monaco with 4.8-litre V8 Ford power Canadian racing legend Ludwig Heimrath at the wheel in the 1964 edition of his national Grand Prix (before it became a F1 event) :

Michael Drechsler wrote:

Never complete without a fox tail on the antenna, and that since 1994

Gives at least an addtional 10 HP

Not to mention this car gets exempted each year as it wouldn't be allowed to start anymore with current emission regulations.

Frank Verplanken wrote:

Fox tail on the antenna Weren't there some shared components at some points between early Mantas and the Camaro, via the all GM grand scheme of things ? Or maybe it was just some racing Mantas that used Camaro parts, seem to remember something about that.

As far as I am aware not, two completely different cars, though I wouldn't rule out some people made some crazy stuff. But have a close look at the Manta and the Chevrolet Monza/Buick Skylark. Both completely different platforms with no communality again, but stunning similarity in design.

Chevy also marketed a Monza in the late seventies/early eighties which, in fact, was an Opel Monza with different front.

Timo

Timo Vermeersch wrote:

Chevy also marketed a Monza in the late seventies/early eighties which, in fact, was an Opel Monza with different front.

Timo

To add more confusion, its called 'Monza', but the car is actually the Ascona (C, based on the FWD platform)




No doubt about that one, though

Vertically parked Ferrari of Mr and Mrs Schlesser in the 1959 Tour de France.

Two different techniques of streamlining in one shot, back in the glory days of the Daytona Road & Beach course :

The Von Trips/Gendebien Ferrari flying on its way to winning the 1961 Targa Florio.

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Two different techniques of streamlining in one shot, back in the glory days of the Daytona Road & Beach course

Haha I remember doing the same as #161 with my 75cc bike, and even moving the feet up and down as when swimming, to see if that helped

That sounds like a primitive form of DRS.

Alberto Ibañez wrote:

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Two different techniques of streamlining in one shot, back in the glory days of the Daytona Road & Beach course

Haha I remember doing the same as #161 with my 75cc bike, and even moving the feet up and down as when swimming, to see if that helped

So ? Did it ?

Frank Verplanken wrote:

Two different techniques of streamlining in one shot, back in the glory days of the Daytona Road & Beach

Are you sure that's not an actual picture shooted to the Saoudia. There were 3 emirs in the back, and they have always re-invented the using of moto and cars.
In all case, that shot makes speaking.

Pallavicini-Calderari-Vanoli-BMW M1 I see there, nice one Michael