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Oh là là!

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We have the confirmation, for sure french people like the ugly car design. Rolling Eyes

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I think you just did it as a revenge against the germans lol!

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It's a great big fuck you to every mechanic in the world if they decide to use the French balljoints and oil-leaking clusterfuck motors on the Opels too.
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Ben Paulet wrote:
We have the confirmation, for sure french people like the ugly car design. Rolling Eyes

Frankly, I kinda liked this one...

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They could rebrang it 2CV... One more in the line of new Mini, Beetle and Fiat 500.

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Jukka Maattanen wrote:
It's a great big fuck you to every mechanic in the world if they decide to use the French balljoints and oil-leaking clusterfuck motors on the Opels too.

I think the reason behind buying Opel is improving their cars with german technology :hihi:

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Opel had some good ones in the past, the Opel GT was a neat little thing imho.

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And of course Opel also is one of the oldest names in racing.

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This is a proper Opel 

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Hehe yes Smile. Their 1914 Grand Prix car was beautiful too !

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For sure, it's better to get german techno rather than their design. Twisted Evil

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Ben Paulet wrote:
For sure, it's better to get german techno rather than their design. Twisted Evil

Haha well that's a matter of taste of course. To each his own, so you can keep your Clio and I will keep my BMW coupé :hihi:

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Frank Verplanken wrote:
Opel had some good ones in the past, the Opel GT was a neat little thing imho.

http://www.ewallpapers.eu/sites/default/files/opel-gt-62743-3163104.jpg

And of course Opel also is one of the oldest names in racing.

The GT looks a lot better in its original shape:

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My dad had a few of them, I don't know exactly how many. He imported them from California and Texas. The last one had the chrome bumpers, leather interior, auto gearbox, wooden steering wheel, and it was bright orange, which looked great. It certainly looked neater than the English/French/Italian rust buckets that followed, all of the same vintage but with a lot more holes in the floor. :D

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Ben Paulet wrote:
For sure, it's better to get german techno rather than their design. Twisted Evil

Don't forget their build quality. We've owned about 30 cars in 25 years, but the French still produced the only model with removable door cards, door handles and inboard driver's feet washing equipment. The exhaust system had a "loud racing" mode and you could do your arm workout while driving when the power steering failed again. The only good thing about the car were its tyres, and they were Czech. Evil or Very Mad

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Alberto Ibañez wrote:
Ben Paulet wrote:
For sure, it's better to get german techno rather than their design. Twisted Evil

Haha well that's a matter of taste of course. To each his own, so you can keep your Clio and I will keep my BMW coupé :hihi:
It's well because I own a ugly french car that I said we like ugly design. And you can keep your bmw, I find that ugly too, as the almost mainstream cars made during lasts decades. Twisted Evil

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You will never be able to beat the first Twingo. I was part of a group of friends who hated it so much, we wanted to collect money among ourselves to buy a 2nd hand one just to throw it from a cliff Laughing Unfortunately we would not be getting an environmental license to do that, and we were not willing to remove the remains so we had to abandon the idea.

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Juha Bos wrote:
The GT looks a lot better in its original shape:

My dad had a few of them, I don't know exactly how many. He imported them from California and Texas. The last one had the chrome bumpers, leather interior, auto gearbox, wooden steering wheel, and it was bright orange, which looked great. It certainly looked neater than the English/French/Italian rust buckets that followed, all of the same vintage but with a lot more holes in the floor. :D

Yes thanks for the picture :top: I see what you mean re the bright orange bodywork, a guy in my street had one for many years but apparently sold it a while back.

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Alberto Ibañez wrote:
You will never be able to beat the first Twingo. I was part of a group of friends who hated it so much, we wanted to collect money among ourselves to buy a 2nd hand one just to throw it from a cliff Laughing Unfortunately we would not be getting an environmental license to do that, and we were not willing to remove the remains so we had to abandon the idea.

It would probably have fallen apart before hitting the bottom. lol!

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Alberto Ibañez wrote:
Ben Paulet wrote:
For sure, it's better to get german techno rather than their design. Twisted Evil

Haha well that's a matter of taste of course. To each his own, so you can keep your Clio and I will keep my BMW coupé :hihi:

I'm pretty sure Clio is better know as the History muse and the BMW Coupé as the favorite car for pimps around the world.
Well my choice is very quickly made then lol! lol! lol! lol! lol! lol!

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I rendered the ass end of an Opel once  Smile

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Ludovic Tiengou wrote:
Alberto Ibañez wrote:
Ben Paulet wrote:
For sure, it's better to get german techno rather than their design. Twisted Evil

Haha well that's a matter of taste of course. To each his own, so you can keep your Clio and I will keep my BMW coupé :hihi:

I'm pretty sure Clio is better know as the History muse and the BMW Coupé as the favorite car for pimps around the world.
Well my choice is very quickly made then lol! lol! lol! lol! lol! lol!


Ahhh the french national chauvisnism pride :D

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Ahhh the french national chauvisnism pride :D

I'm not french. I'm briton. Breizh Atao :D :D :D :D :D

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Same difference :langue:

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Jason White wrote:
I rendered the ass end of an Opel once  Smile

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Beautiful, Jason :top: Do you sometimes sell your artwork ? Do you take commands ? Like could someone commission you a drawing of a given car ?

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I'm biased. My first automobile memory is a red Opel Manta B with vinyl roof and a cascade rear window cover (bit difficult to describe, but they were pretty en vogue back then). I was fascinated by the rear vent window and its mechanism. At least until we got hit from behind and my head landed on that exact thingy.

Then, two years ago, my car rental company lent me an (coincidence!) red Opel Corsa (looking very rakish with black wheels), and gotta admit it was one of the best cars they ever gave me. Nice ergonomics, nice quality, the engine had a nice punch, yet was decently economic, the suspension made for a motivating ride, yet it offered a nice long-range comfort for a car of the size. And what I liked most: for a modern car, it really had an own character. Take one of the Polos the car rental usually gave me, they are certainly nice, near perfect cars, but they do nuffin to leave an impression. A nice, reliable and respectable ride, but its so bland, there's nothing in particular I could remember driving them. Unlike the Corsa, which made it on my virtual 'if I'd ever buy a factory-new car'-shortlist Smile

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It's a great big fuck you to every mechanic in the world if they decide to use the French balljoints and oil-leaking clusterfuck motors on the Opels too.

I think the reason behind buying Opel is improving their cars with german technology :hihi:

That is actually an interesting issue I'd love to know how they sorted that out. All the the technology, patents and knowledge are not owned by Opel, but belong to GM in Detroit.

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