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Mathieu Leclerc
Steve Settanta
Dana Schurer
Mike Becnel
Ludovic Tiengou
Alberto Ibañez
Jacob Fredriksson
Raul Jereb
François Remmen
Jukka Närhi
Richard Coxon
David Sabre
Pascal Mikula
Jason Fitch
Jason White
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Jason White
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Jason White


Number of posts : 14725
Age : 47
Location : Ferndale, MI USA
Registration date : 2011-12-25

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Pre-Season Testing


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In preparation for our 1973 USAC season, we will be running a test server from March 5th through March 19th. 
          
We encourage all interested drivers to test a variety of cars and see what they like.  This will help you make informed decisions when car selection opens on March 12th.  The server will be open to all classes of cars, with both early- and late-season physics.  A variety of tracks will be available so testers can get the full sense of a car's capabilities.  Any questions or comments on car performance can be posted here.  
Server IP : 91.121.135.76:35900
Server password : test73

**Remember to use the correct chassis configuration for each track**
Indianapolis --> Superspeedway
Trenton --> Speedway
Michigan --> Superspeedway Low Drag


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Jason Fitch
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Jason Fitch


Number of posts : 664
Age : 44
Location : Frankfort, IN
Registration date : 2015-04-18

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Haven't had a chance to get down to my desktop and download this stuff. But what are the HP numbers for the Top Offy teams Pre and Post Pocono?

I know Pre-Pocono it was 1000hp, how much power was cut with the Boost limits?
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There were no boost limits imposed until 1974, but teams were conscious of fuel limits in the second half of the 73 season. You'll see subtle differences from pre- to post-Indy.
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Jason Fitch
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Jason Fitch


Number of posts : 664
Age : 44
Location : Frankfort, IN
Registration date : 2015-04-18

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So it was mostly Aero limits then? I know the rear wings were considerably smaller.
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Pascal Mikula
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Pascal Mikula


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Location : Classic Motorsport Hub
Registration date : 2016-01-04

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Oh yeeeeeeesss :D It's finally here!! :D I waited so long for this forum topics :D
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David Sabre
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David Sabre


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Age : 59
Location : england
Registration date : 2012-02-25

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Are hotlaps being recorded for the testing?
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Richard Coxon
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Richard Coxon


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Location : Sheffield, England
Registration date : 2012-06-29

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David Sabre wrote:
Are hotlaps being recorded for the testing?
Not that i know of.
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Jukka Närhi
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Jukka Närhi


Number of posts : 1905
Age : 37
Location : Finland
Registration date : 2009-12-17

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:banane: :banane:
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Jason White
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Jason Fitch wrote:

So it was mostly Aero limits then? I know the rear wings were considerably smaller.

The rear wings were trimmed from 64 inches to 55 inches, and the fuel load was cut in half.
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Jason Fitch
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Jason Fitch


Number of posts : 664
Age : 44
Location : Frankfort, IN
Registration date : 2015-04-18

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and that was all it took to make the Foyt engine competitve?

I was thinking they did more..I could also be mixing 73 and 74 together.
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Jason White


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Jason Fitch wrote:

and that was all it took to make the Foyt engine competitve?

I was thinking they did more..I could also be mixing 73 and 74 together.

The main thing that helped the Foyt engine cars was the fact that Offy runners had to cut boost back to make it on the fuel they were allowed. We will be mimicking this in 500 mile races by imposing pit stop limits.
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Richard Coxon
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Will fuel stops happen in all races?
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Richard Coxon wrote:
Will fuel stops happen in all races?

Do you mean fuel stops or fuel stop limits?
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Richard Coxon
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Richard Coxon


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Fuel stops, as the question said Razz
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Richard Coxon wrote:
Fuel stops, as the question said Razz

Sry.  My head is going 1000 directions this AM...

Not all races will require pit stops.  Some are short enough that they will be sprints (for example, the Ontario support heats).
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Thank you :top:
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Richard Coxon wrote:
Thank you :top:

You'll recall that during one of the Trenton heats last year, several of us gambled and made it with no stops because of all the yellows.
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True, but I'm hoping this years Trenton races are not going to have a yellow flag every 3 laps for the first 60 laps. But I know what you are getting at. Yellows can play a big factor.
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Richard Coxon wrote:
True, but I'm hoping this years Trenton races are not going to have a yellow flag every 3 laps for the first 60 laps. But I know what you are getting at. Yellows can play a big factor.

Yes, hopefully less yellows.
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François Remmen
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François Remmen


Number of posts : 880
Age : 43
Location : Netherlands
Registration date : 2012-12-22

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awesome guys

btw cannot find the black label car at the entry list study
you know jason that one i like so much
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François Remmen wrote:
btw cannot find the black label car at the entry list study
you know jason that one i like so much

The Black Label cars are not full season entries.  Only one-offs at the 500 mile races.
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Raul Jereb
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Raul Jereb


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Registration date : 2013-05-28

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Could you advise me about the cars, like in previous championships, Im very hard to detect which is more user-frendly :D
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Jacob Fredriksson
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Jacob Fredriksson


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Age : 34
Location : Sweden
Registration date : 2014-01-15

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Raul Jereb wrote:
Could you advise me about the cars, like in previous championships, Im very hard to detect which is more user-frendly :D

there's a nice review of each car in the readme!
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Richard Coxon


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Jacob Fredriksson wrote:
Raul Jereb wrote:
Could you advise me about the cars, like in previous championships, Im very hard to detect which is more user-frendly :D

there's a nice review of each car in the readme!

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Alberto Ibañez


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Location : International Simracing Organisation
Registration date : 2010-09-17

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and that was all it took to make the Foyt engine competitve?

I was thinking they did more..I could also be mixing 73 and 74 together.

After Indy 1973, starting round 6 onwards (Round 5 Milwaukee it was not yet applied) the changes were:

- Wings trimmed down in size (Around 12-15% downforce loss on the rear). Because the drag was also reduced, the cars went even quicker at open superspeedways like Texas, and at the rest they had similar or slightly lower speeds because softer tires were produced to compensate. With the smaller fuel tanks car stopped double as much as before, so tire wear was not a big concern.

- Only one fuel tank at the left side of the car allowed, with only 40 gallons (All cars had previously one 40 gallons tank on the left and a 35 gallons tank on the right, so they just closed the right side one)

- The total fuel limit for the races was lowered to 300 gallons. This had no effect on the normal races, but for the 500 miles races it meant that Offenhausers had to run lower boost settings. At such lower boost settings the Foyt V8 was more efficient and produced more power for the same fuel consumption. That gave it an advantage in those long 500 mile races, but not for qualifying, where the Offenhausers could produce enormous amounts of power for some laps.

For the 1974 season, the rules above were kept plus the wings were further reduced in size and a boost limit of 80 inches enforced. That definitely gave the Foyt an advantage in all conditions, as the Offenhausers could no longer produce more power in race or qualy trim.

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