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 CART 1998 - Portland 200 [Nov 16th]

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Mario Gassner
Guillaume Siebert
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Matthew Allington
Alessio Campigotto
Joshua Anderson
Jason White
Cyril Derkir
Mike Becnel
Greg Hunt
Raul Jereb
Alberto Ibañez
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Richard Coxon
Zdravko Anticic
Yves Plaçais
Mathieu Leclerc
Didier Conjeaud
Ben Paulet
Martin Audran
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Alessio Campigotto
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Mario Gassner wrote:
By the way: that mod really is worth looking for a longer series of races at HSO. I would definitely be in it.

+1 :yaa:

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I added the qualification laptimes to the results.

Happy with my race, the first stint was great in the lead, I switched between boost 2 and 3 with hard tires and pitted in the 39th lap I think. Gui overtook me 2 or 3 laps after my pitstop, I never saw him again Sad

Still switching between boost 2 and 3 for this second stint. I pitted in the 78th lap. I made the last stint with soft tires and boost at 4. Gui was to far ahead, and Greg was 7/8 sec behind. He closed the gap until the last 8/9 laps were he had fuel trouble, which allowed me to keep this second place Smile

Congrats Gui and to all finishers :clap:. Thanks to all the lappers, I didn't have any problem Wink


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Yves Plaçais wrote:

Y'a pas moyen de faire en sorte de partir avec des moteurs neufs à 100% ?

Non c'est rFactor qui attribue un pourcentage au hasard au départ :smil20:

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Martin Audran wrote:
Yves Plaçais wrote:

Y'a pas moyen de faire en sorte de partir avec des moteurs neufs à 100% ?

Non c'est rFactor qui attribue un pourcentage au hasard au départ :smil20:

Ah, ok.

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Plus exactement c'est dans le mod qu'est défini jusqu'où peut descendre la durée de vie moteur aléatoirement. Il est possible de faire des moteurs qui démarrent toujours à 100% par exemple.
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Tried Guis setup a hour before race, and knocked a second off my qualy time, so had no idea if I would be faster than some of the guys ahead (Had they tried it and planned on using ti for race?)

Was helped at the start by those behind dropping back on the pace lap allowing me to focus ahead. Found I could easily keep up without pushing it, but was in no rush to attempt passing. Was running soft tyres with boost 5 and rad opening 3. Had a few opotunities to pass into t1 but not having an "alternative" reliable brake marker, didnt want to try my luck. Whenever I had space ahead, I pushed hard taking advantage of soft tyres. By lap 20 found myself in 8th due to errors and early pitting. Lap 25 and the tyres were past their best so drove with more care. Pitted Lap 33 but must have line over the line too fast, as I was given I drive through.

Second stint in 8th closely following Vincent and Ryan, closing in on Vincnet,,,,25 laps into the stint, just had to follow him and time my stop right to get undercut....worked out as planned as I pushed for 5 laps on frsh tyres, and pushing engine to the max. Ryan was someway ahead so was making a late 2nd stop....I was coming up to t1 as he exited pits, left him room on the inside but he seemed to lock up and went wide, so I had to take avoiding action, cutting t2.

Being lapped, was varied..most of the time I was decisive and chose good places to go wide, but occassionaly made the cardinal sin of changing my mind last minute.Though the most worrying was into t1 (previously, when I was being lapped there I hit the apex for t1 and go wide in t2 which worked nicely) I think followed by Gui,thinking he would expect me to go wide in t2, but on braking had doubts whever that was early enough, so went wide into t1 but too fast so cut t2 to avoid going into Gui only to get stuck on kerb. Managed to coax car free without loosing position.

So very happy with 6th, realy was not expecting that, and was relieved the drive through didnt cost me any positions. Was also pleased I didnt have any spins and managed the pace well. Guis setup was a great help. It was stable but allowed for variation in driving style......Thanks

And Thanks HSO...was great fun. Hope to see more of this mod.

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Guillaume Siebert wrote:
Plus exactement c'est dans le mod qu'est défini jusqu'où peut descendre la durée de vie moteur aléatoirement. Il est possible de faire des moteurs qui démarrent toujours à 100% par exemple.

à ce propos, en passant plusieurs fois du garage aux pits, j'ai testé durant le warm-up la durée de vie du moteur : j'ai obtenu une fois 12% ! affraid

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My objective was to finish in this difficult track and finish I did, but the race was weird. For some reason my car never behaved in the race as it had done during warmup, and while I had easily done 1.01s with boost 3 with the race setup, come the race start I was unable to go much lower than 1.03 and struggling. I don't know if I loaded a wrong setup or my brake pedal was giving problems again or simply my brain switched off, but I was slow as hell and uncomfortable. By the end of first stint I had already been lapped and was well spooked with the car Suspect

Worse even, the people I was hoping to race with dropped off and I found myself alone, suffering errors from others. Some optimist tried to overtake me when I let a lapper through and ended locking his brakes in the chicane, doing a 180º and damaging my front right, parking his car across the track Rolling Eyes While the damage wasn't affecting my laptimes, of course the idiots on my pit tried to repair it everytime I pitted, and I got 30 extra seconds on each pitstop (Damage repair can't be changed in the pit menu) for nothing Evil or Very Mad .

Finally, I noticed too late that my XD hud was not giving accurate readings and that I could have done my stints with boost 4, so did the first two with 53 extra litres of fuel above what was needed :doh:

A struggling race therefore, where my main satisfaction was to be able to end without making big errors in a car that wasn't right Smile



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Yves Plaçais
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Merci pour ton setup, Alberto ! :top:

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It was a good race Smile
I messed up at the start, cold tires, full boost and a little bit of brain fade = spin exiting the chicane :doh: Luckily I didn't touch anything and lost only 5 or 6 places.
I went through the field with ease, everybody being very clean, Alessio even let me through in the backstraight :hello:
Then I caught Greg and got stuck behind him for a while, it's very hard to overtake somebody with these cars when you're only a few tenths a lap faster. We overtook each other quite a few times but only when we made little mistakes in traffic.
I pitted in lap 34 and pushed on fresh tires while Martin and Greg stayed out. After they both pitted I was right behind Martin and overtook him at T1 a few laps later. From that point I managed to extend the gap and spent the last ~50 laps alone in front to take the win :first:

I was surprised how well overtaking the lapped drivers went, on such a narrow track I excepted mayhem What a Face Good job everybody !

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:clap:

Out of curiosity Gui is there any mod/game that enables a direct comparison betwen the mother of all aliens (Huttu) and you? I know Martin was a GPL God some time ago, but no idea if you also were, just curious to know how you both would rank against the guy usually considered world's #1 Smile

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The only time I raced against Huttu was a 1979 F1 championship race at Jarama back in 2007. That series was full of aliens Laughing  He was driving a Wolf and I had a Williams and was just as quick as him in quali but my car was like 1.5s quicker than him :D My start and my race were terrible, I was way too stressed pale I still remember seeing "- 0.150 Huttu" after sector 1 on quali and then completly messed up the rest of the lap (you only had 2 flying laps available). I believe I'm quite faster on rFactor than at that time though.
There's the proof ^^ https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2cjzk_team-redline-in-flog-f1-79-r3-at-ja_videogames

I was pretty decent on GPL too. On GPL you have the GPL rank, which basically adds up all your best laptimes on all original tracks of the game. The total time obtained is used to compare drivers between each others. I was not that good at that because is was basically about spending zillions of hours hotlapping like an idiot on the same 11 tracks, to gain a few tenths here and there. There is the old Nurburgring among the tracks so of course this was even worse there.
I lost my GPL rank account now so I have no idea how far I was from Huttu there. Martin had a better GPL rank than me of course, but that was only because he was willing to do all that hotlapping madness :langue: Things were a lot closer between us when we were racing on a totally new track and the amount of time spent training there was equal.
Plus I don't think hotlapping is everything. For example, on GPL you had thousands of setups available but where would everyone have been yesterday if I hadn't share my setup ? What a Face

Anyway Huttu is really in another galaxy than me, he's a machine, I'm slower (I'd say 1s slower on a 1min20s track, given that I like the mod/game) and can still have random brain fades.
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Yves Plaçais wrote:
Guillaume Siebert wrote:
Plus exactement c'est dans le mod qu'est défini jusqu'où peut descendre la durée de vie moteur aléatoirement. Il est possible de faire des moteurs qui démarrent toujours à 100% par exemple.

à ce propos, en passant plusieurs fois du garage aux pits, j'ai testé durant le warm-up la durée de vie du moteur : j'ai obtenu une fois 12% ! affraid

J'ai regardé un peu dans les fichiers et ton moteur (Toyota) est le moins fiable (en terme de longévité) du mod donc ceci explique cela Arrow

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Martin Audran wrote:
J'ai regardé un peu dans les fichiers et ton moteur (Toyota) est le moins fiable (en terme de longévité) du mod donc ceci explique cela Arrow

D'un autre côté, partir avec 36%, ça impose de pas prendre de risque et d'avoir ainsi toutes les chances d'aller au bout, ce qui s'est vérifié ! :D

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Et tu as terminé à combien ?
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Guillaume Siebert wrote:
The only time I raced against Huttu was a 1979 F1 championship race at Jarama back in 2007. That series was full of aliens Laughing  He was driving a Wolf and I had a Williams and was just as quick as him in quali but my car was like 1.5s quicker than him :D My start and my race were terrible, I was way too stressed pale I still remember seeing "- 0.150 Huttu" after sector 1 on quali and then completly messed up the rest of the lap (you only had 2 flying laps available). I believe I'm quite faster on rFactor than at that time though.
There's the proof ^^ https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2cjzk_team-redline-in-flog-f1-79-r3-at-ja_videogames

I was pretty decent on GPL too. On GPL you have the GPL rank, which basically adds up all your best laptimes on all original tracks of the game. The total time obtained is used to compare drivers between each others. I was not that good at that because is was basically about spending zillions of hours hotlapping like an idiot on the same 11 tracks, to gain a few tenths here and there. There is the old Nurburgring among the tracks so of course this was even worse there.
I lost my GPL rank account now so I have no idea how far I was from Huttu there. Martin had a better GPL rank than me of course, but that was only because he was willing to do all that hotlapping madness :langue: Things were a lot closer between us when we were racing on a totally new track and the amount of time spent training there was equal.
Plus I don't think hotlapping is everything. For example, on GPL you had thousands of setups available but where would everyone have been yesterday if I hadn't share my setup ? What a Face

Anyway Huttu is really in another galaxy than me, he's a machine, I'm slower (I'd say 1s slower on a 1min20s track, given that I like the mod/game) and can still have random brain fades.

Hey Gui great win bud. I have a question why didnt you try for the Iracing pro series road side? You could have easily made it! I know it cost money, but you could win thousands of dollars with a small investment.Your very good on the road courses. Would have been cool to see you up against Huttu and all the Iracing boys.

I was in the Iracing nascar pro series for a year and let me tell you its not about Hot lapping, but how long you can push it as hard as you can till there is no more left, lap after lap. Very fun but comes with a lot of angry nights  lol!

Grat Gui on the win, wish i could have raced in more against you.
Congrats to everyone who raced and finished
these cars are tough.

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Guillaume Siebert wrote:
I went through the field with ease, everybody being very clean, Alessio even let me through in the backstraight :hello:

I knew you were circa 1 second faster per lap anyway so thought not to fight it lol!

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Guillaume Siebert wrote:
Et tu as terminé à combien ?

9%, mais j'ai passé les yeux rivés dessus, en essayant d'éviter le moindre surrégime... pas toujours facile, je me suis fait quelques frayeurs !

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soiree bien sympa sur un mod que je découvrais , vraiment cool ces voitures Smile

la course fut animée les 35 premiers tours avec Gui avec qui on s est passé et repasser a plusieurs reprises en fonction de nos erreurs ou du trafic :conduit:  j ai bien aime ces 2 , 3 tentatives de freinage " je pose mes co....es sur le tableau de bord " :D :D au freinage du 1 er virage .

le reste fut plus difficile a chaque fois que je remontais sur Martin soit je commettais une erreur soit j etais géné par un lappé et je reperdais tout le temps gagné . puis a 10 tours de la fin je m apercois que je me suis plante dans mes calculs de conso et je suis oblige de finir sur boost 1 et je termine avec moins de 0.5 l dans le reservoir study :third:

bravo a Gui et Martin :clap:  well done all finishers :conduit:

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Austin Johnson wrote:

Hey Gui great win bud. I have a question why didnt you try for the Iracing pro series road side? You could have easily made it! I know it cost money, but you could win thousands of dollars with a small investment.Your very good on the road courses. Would have been cool to see you up against Huttu and all the Iracing boys.

I was in the Iracing nascar pro series for a year and let me tell you its not about Hot lapping, but how long you can push it as hard as you can till there is no more left, lap after lap. Very fun but comes with a lot of angry nights  lol!

Grat Gui on the win, wish i could have raced in more against you.
Congrats to everyone who raced and finished
these cars are tough.

Not interested at all by the cars in iRacing, spec series with ugly liveries is really not how I see simracing.
Plus I found the SR system very frustrating. Plus I don't wanna pay Smile
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Et où y'a de la paye, y'a pas de plaisir. lol!

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