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John Cook
Olivier Philipps
David Conan
Uwe Kloeppel
Darryn Smalley
Florkin Marc
Alain Lefebvre
Stephane Lebourhis
Andre Cunha
Mario Gassner
Martin Audran
Hervé Sabathé
Alejandro Meirinhos
Jean-François Bovy
Vincent Rieux
Carl Larrad
Frank Labédan
Frank Verplanken
Tiago Malafaya
Pascal Salar
Ludovic Tiengou
Guillaume Siebert
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Tiago Malafaya
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Tiago Malafaya


Number of posts : 3384
Age : 45
Location : Porto, Portugal
Registration date : 2008-10-05

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Good luck. Hope it all goes well

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Carl Larrad
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Hope u make a speedy recovery ....

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Guillaume Siebert
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PostSubject: Re: Round 6 - Zolder   Round 6 - Zolder - Page 2 Icon_minitimeSat 18 Apr 2009 - 18:23

Hé ben décidément Yahia ... Sad
J'espere que ça se passera bien pour toi Wink

Carl I just put my Alfa setup & replay here, i hope it will help Wink
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Carl Larrad
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cheers Guillaume will see if i can make some progress :top:

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Tiago Malafaya
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Tiago Malafaya


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Ludo, I just managed 1:23:824 with soft tyres and low fuel. How are you going? If you need I can give you my setup

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Frank Verplanken
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Frank Verplanken


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Location : Nice, France
Registration date : 2008-09-08

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@ Yahia - bon courage, les mauvaises passes passent Smile.

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Ludovic Tiengou
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Ludovic Tiengou


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Registration date : 2008-12-12

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PostSubject: Re: Round 6 - Zolder   Round 6 - Zolder - Page 2 Icon_minitimeSun 19 Apr 2009 - 9:42

I'm in 1.30.8 in hard tyres and low fuel. Don't understand the track in fact and sometime the behaviour of the car scratch

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Tiago Malafaya
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Tiago Malafaya


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PostSubject: Re: Round 6 - Zolder   Round 6 - Zolder - Page 2 Icon_minitimeSun 19 Apr 2009 - 14:16

I got better and did 1:23:735. Try mine and see if you like it

http://rapidshare.com/files/223212267/Shadow_Cosworth.svm.html

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PostSubject: Re: Round 6 - Zolder   Round 6 - Zolder - Page 2 Icon_minitimeSun 19 Apr 2009 - 17:33

Frank Verplanken wrote:
@ Yahia - bon courage, les mauvaises passes passent Smile.
J'espère qu'un jour ces problèmes disparaîtront et que je puisse enfin faire une course avec vous dans son intégralité, en ce moment je suis dans une mauvaise passe qui commence à vraiment me prendre le chou , sur le lobby de GTR EVO je fais des courses en F. 3000 et je n'ai jamais rencontré un problème, je prends vraiment plaisir à faire ses courses dans une bonne ambiance mais dès que j'arrive sur historic simRacing organisation c'est la catastrophe à croire qu'il y a un individu malsain qui ne voudraient pas que je roule dans cette ligue ou un gros diable qui survole ma tête et attend le moment pour me lancer un sort, sa tombe toujours pendant le championnat et ça me rend fou de rage sa dure depuis janvier 2009 et j'espère ine chala que tout s'est mauvais sort s'en aille à tout jamais, en espérant être présent pour la course de Monaco et faire mais preuve car jusqu'à vous maintenant je n'ai rien démontré, en attendant je vais commencer à préparer cette course pour être prêt à frapper un grand coup sur le circuit de Monaco et vous montrer ma capacité à faire de l'endurance, voilà mes amis Simracer je vous souhaite plein de joie et de combat dans vos courses.
À bientôt sur la piste Wink

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I hope that one day these problems will disappear and that I could finally make a running with you in its entirety, at present I am in a bad pass which really begins getting from me the cabbage, on the lobby of GTR EVO I go shopping F there. 3000 and I have never met a problem, I really enjoy to go shopping in a good ambience but as soon as I arrive on historic simRacing organisation it is disaster to think that there is an unhealthy individual who would not like that I run in this league or a big devil who flies over my head and waits for the instant to throw me a fate, its tomb always during the championship and this makes me mad with rage its hard since January, 2009 and I hope ine for chala that everything belongs bad lot leaves forever, by hoping to be present for the running of Monaco and to make but proof because until you supporting I showed nothing, by waiting I am going to begin preparing this running to be ready to hit a hard bop on the circuit of Monaco and show you my capacity to make endurance, here is my friends Simracer I wish you full of joy and battle in your shopping.
See you soon on the track
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Ludovic Tiengou
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Ludovic Tiengou


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Location : Grenoble far away from Brittany, France
Registration date : 2008-12-12

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PostSubject: Re: Round 6 - Zolder   Round 6 - Zolder - Page 2 Icon_minitimeSun 19 Apr 2009 - 18:51

Bon rétablissement Yahia et à bientot parmi nous

Tiago Malafaya wrote:
I got better and did 1:23:735. Try mine and see if you like it
http://rapidshare.com/files/223212267/Shadow_Cosworth.svm.html

Done a 1.28.9 with it. But the car's to much tricky for a rookie like me Neutral . I'm spining nearly every lap at Sterrewacht (T2), miss the Kleine Chicane quite often and spin at Jochen Rindt ever on braking or reaccelerating. With time and experience it must be a fine set :top: . But for my level it's quite hard (nearly impossible in fact) to handle the car properly and reach the limits with it :aie: .
Think I got understeer getting in curve and a huuuuuuuuge oversteer when getting out. But next lap on same curve, it's the contrary (massive oversteer getting in a understeer getting out) scratch .
Also have a car rather unstable on braking (especially strong one as for Chicane or Rindt).
But my greatest concern is T2. I don't find braking point there neither trajectory. I can't do more than two turns in row without spinning and/or crashing there.
That track scares me even more than Monza. I deeply, truly dislike it Evil or Very Mad

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Tiago Malafaya
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Tiago Malafaya


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Well for T2 you must brake gently or you'll spin, for the rest I suggest that you try to give more donwforce and play a little with the differential to see how it goes.

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Vincent Rieux
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Vincent Rieux


Number of posts : 211
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Location : Bruxelles
Registration date : 2008-11-12

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Good luck Yahia ! Reviens nous vite et en pleine forme Wink
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Ludovic Tiengou
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Ludovic Tiengou


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Whatever I change on the set nothing work. 1.28.1 at best. And now I can't do more than 3 turns on a row without crashing, the car's too tricky on reaccelerating and go wild.
It's definitly a trouble with the track not the set. Well nothing to hope for saturday Neutral

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Tiago Malafaya
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Tiago Malafaya


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Try to increase your gears, maybe that will help when exiting corners

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Pascal Salar
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Pascal Salar


Number of posts : 243
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Location : Gironde-France
Registration date : 2009-04-10

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PostSubject: Re: Round 6 - Zolder   Round 6 - Zolder - Page 2 Icon_minitimeTue 21 Apr 2009 - 9:18

For enjoy, i made 1.30.28x with Shadow. It's hard to drive :aie:

Fins (ailrons) closed up and soft tires Suspect

Ludo, you are not alone :drink:

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Tiago Malafaya
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Tiago Malafaya


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PostSubject: Re: Round 6 - Zolder   Round 6 - Zolder - Page 2 Icon_minitimeTue 21 Apr 2009 - 11:43

Well I find the Shadow quite ammusing to drive, it's not easy and certainly not fast, but quite enjoyable Wink

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Ludovic Tiengou
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Ludovic Tiengou


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PostSubject: Re: Round 6 - Zolder   Round 6 - Zolder - Page 2 Icon_minitimeTue 21 Apr 2009 - 11:45

The trouble don't come from gears it seems. On the replay my car sometimes bump a lot from rear on reaccelaration (great look all those sparks). And when I drive the car is jolting very hard on exit of corners. It's very frequent in Eerste Linkse (T1), Kleine Chicane, Jochen Rindt (T7) and Ickx (T8 and last corner). It's also jolting on brakes at Klein Chicane. Never see this reaction before. My guess is something is too hard or too soft in suspensions.
And because of these erratic behaviour, I perhaps don't push the car to the limits (braking too soon and reaccelerating too late). With much more confidence in it I perhaps could find one or two tenth in each corner (nearly one second and half on a turn). Will be still far from 1.23 but I'm not a top gunner whatever especially on this track who I dislike :D

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Tiago Malafaya
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Tiago Malafaya


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Well, the rear supspension is on medium sets, perharps you should try some packers, because it seems the car is hitting the ground and can cause that erratic behaviour. My 1:23 is made with 5 laps of fuel and soft tyres, don't forget Wink

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Ludovic Tiengou
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Ludovic Tiengou


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Location : Grenoble far away from Brittany, France
Registration date : 2008-12-12

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PostSubject: Re: Round 6 - Zolder   Round 6 - Zolder - Page 2 Icon_minitimeTue 21 Apr 2009 - 14:24

1.28.1 with 15 laps fuel and soft tyres. I'll try harder suspensions soon

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Jean-François Bovy
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Jean-François Bovy


Number of posts : 907
Age : 45
Location : Brussels, Belgium
Registration date : 2008-09-20

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PostSubject: Re: Round 6 - Zolder   Round 6 - Zolder - Page 2 Icon_minitimeThu 23 Apr 2009 - 7:30

je serai là pour les qualifs de ce soir et la course de dimanche.

pour samedi, il y a très peu de chances...

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Guillaume Siebert
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Guillaume Siebert


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PostSubject: Re: Round 6 - Zolder   Round 6 - Zolder - Page 2 Icon_minitimeThu 23 Apr 2009 - 10:04

Juste un mot pour dire qu'Allar Foht ayant manqué la course de Jarama sans explications, si cela arrive encore dimanche à Zolder, sa Tyrrell sera libre. J'estime que 6 semaines sont largement suffisantes pour passer sur le forum ( 3 semaines avant la course, 3 semaines après ) pour s'expliquer. Je ne veux juste pas que des baquets soient réservés par des pilotes qui ne viennent plus.

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Just a quick word to say that Allar Foht missed the race at Jarama without giving any reason, so if it happens again at Zolder, his Tyrrell will be free. I think 6 weeks are enough to come on the forum ( 3 weeks before the race, 3 weeks after ) to explain yourself. I just dont want seats being taken by drivers who doesn't come to races anymore.
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Vincent Rieux
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Vincent Rieux


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PostSubject: Re: Round 6 - Zolder   Round 6 - Zolder - Page 2 Icon_minitimeThu 23 Apr 2009 - 10:22

Je serai là dimanche, c'est certain. Par contre, je ne suis pas sûr de pouvoir venir faire les qualifs ce soir ou samedi.
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Guillaume Siebert
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Guillaume Siebert


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PostSubject: Re: Round 6 - Zolder   Round 6 - Zolder - Page 2 Icon_minitimeThu 23 Apr 2009 - 20:01

La première scéance qualifs est lancée, pour suivre l'évolution des temps, c'est => ICI <= Wink

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First quali session has now started, follow the grid's evolution in live => HERE <= Wink

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Guillaume Siebert
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Zolder - First qualifying session :

1 Guillaume Siebert Alfa Romeo 1:21,143
2 Olivier Philipps Williams Cosworth 1:21,426
3 Oscar Erroz Tyrrell Cosworth 1:21,895
4 Frank Verplanken Lotus Cosworth 1:22,218
5 Francois Besancon Williams Cosworth 1:22,443
6 Tiago Malafaya Shadow Cosworth 1:22,792
7 Jan Kowalski Brabham Cosworth 1:23,572
8 Franck Labedan Ligier Cosworth 1:24,178
9 Uwe Kloeppel Merzario Cosworth 1:25,085
10 Vincent Rieux Lotus Cosworth 1:25,281
11 Lluis Segura Arrows Cosworth 1:25,664
12 Stefan Maurischat Rebaque Cosworth 1:26,183
13 Eric Campillo Arrows Cosworth 1:26,321
14 Alain Lefebvre McLaren Cosworth 1:26,662
15 Carl Larrad Alfa Romeo 1:26,929
16 Marc Florkin Ferrari 1:27,446
17 Jean-Francois Bovy Ensign Cosworth 1:29,423
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Frank Labédan
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Frank Labédan


Number of posts : 1043
Age : 55
Location : france - Landes
Registration date : 2008-10-28

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Pétard! j'allais presque plus vite avec mon aurora sur ce circuit Smile
Bravo gui :champ:
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