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 JTCC 1988 - Sugo 300 Km [May 26th]

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Guillaume Siebert
Balazs Kiss
Cyril Derkir
Arnaud Pirlot
Hervé Sabathé
Vito Boffa
Greg Hunt
Peter Lengyel
Imre Bende
Jan Titz
Frank Verplanken
Vincent Beretta
Carl Larrad
Roy Magnes
Lee Gibson
Mike Becnel
Jonatan Acerclinth
Kevin Maaß
David Jundt
Alessio Campigotto
Joel Sixou
Vadim Sadoshenko
Jean-François Bovy
Ricard Suanya
Tiago Malafaya
Richard Coxon
Alberto Ibañez
Ben Paulet
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Mike Becnel
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Mike Becnel


Number of posts : 4741
Age : 55
Location : Sugar Land, TX, USA
Registration date : 2012-06-24

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Alberto will start for us.
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Greg Hunt
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Greg Hunt


Number of posts : 4322
Age : 40
Location : HOSSEGOR
Registration date : 2010-03-25

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Neutral je n ai jamais reussi a me mettre dans le rythme , mal aux yeux , pas de plaisir pale je prefere faire echap , la fatigue surement scratch merci Ben pour ce chouette open , bravo a tous les finisseurs et les vainqueurs Wink
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Alberto Ibañez
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Alberto Ibañez


Number of posts : 16788
Age : 121
Location : International Simracing Organisation
Registration date : 2010-09-17

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Wow that was hard race for me ... as I had suspected the setup was going to be too understeery once the tires lost grip, and so it happened. Kept up well with Joel and the guys for some good laps, but then started cooking tires and the softs simply stopped working, giving me horrible push on corners. Had to lift and go much slower, and couldn't even defend from Jonathan with his Supra, or even make the best of his errors (Apologizes if you felt I went wide on T1, tried to leave you more room but the car would not cooperate). The car simply refused to turn in and even abruptly lifting when the nose was pointed in didn't make it slide to make the turn. It was really painful driving and I didn't enjoy it at all Sad

Apologizes also to Tiago while lapping me, signalled you with lights to pass but you rear ended me instead of moving left for the inside as I had expected.

Anyway, gave the car to Mike without damage (Apart from some scratches from being rear ended) and without having been out of the asphalt even once, which was my objective. Had I been driving alone, I would have fought harder at the start of the race, but sharing a car you feel responsable for allowing the other co-driver his share of race, so I did not want to push my luck. When I come back to the BTCC in Donington, now that will be something different JTCC 1988 - Sugo 300 Km [May 26th] - Page 7 195264

Thxs as always HSO for the organization.
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Guillaume Siebert
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Guillaume Siebert


Number of posts : 13827
Age : 37
Location : Paris, France
Registration date : 2008-09-08

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Results are up :flag:
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Imre Bende
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Imre Bende


Number of posts : 34
Age : 48
Location : Budapest
Registration date : 2012-10-17

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it was great! but i had a big mistake, i fell into a hole (bug) and i got a puncture. i tried to run the best lap in last laps, but i was too slow for it Very Happy Very Happy
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Balazs Kiss
Club Driver
Balazs Kiss


Number of posts : 95
Age : 32
Location : Hungary
Registration date : 2012-10-17

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Ricard Suanya wrote:
Well, I'm very happy with my lap, third place, only behind the unbeatable Sierras. Very Happy
Shocked

beaten - tick :banane: :banane: :banane: :banane:


:first: I didn't expected this. I thought i will get a third or fourth place, but i won :langue: :champ:


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Vadim Sadoshenko
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Vadim Sadoshenko


Number of posts : 1038
Age : 40
Location : Russia
Registration date : 2011-12-18

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Truly sorry if I seriously someone prevented! I tried to behave more adequately, however monstrous excitement near the opponent's car did its job. Nonetheless me today was acquired important experience, which I still severely lacking. Thanks to everyone for the interesting race :flag: ! :top:
My congratulations to the winners Wink !


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Vito Boffa
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Vito Boffa


Number of posts : 18
Age : 57
Location : Soragna, Italia
Registration date : 2013-03-14

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Gara andata malissimo.
Ho faticato tanto, fatto moltissime prove, ma non sono riuscito a trovare un set up adatto al mio stile di guida.. Per la gara ho provato a fare una modifica dell'ultimo minuto ma la ho clamorosamente sbagliata..
Macchina allucinante ... incontrollabile..Dopo tantissimi errori , ho deciso che era il caso di premere esc..
Guillaume una domanda.. non si potrebbero aumentare le M3 o le Mercedes 190 per la prossima gara o aggiungere le Bmw 635?
Vorrei partecipare alla prossima gara del TCL HSO..ma di certo eviterò la Sierra..proprio non riesco a guidarla..
Grazie in ogni caso, correre con voi è sempre un piacere.

Race gone bad.
I worked so hard, did a lot of tests, but I could not find a set-up suited to my driving style .. For the race I tried to make a last minute change but I blatantly wrong ..
Car hallucinating ... uncontrollable .. After many mistakes, I decided it was time to press esc ..
Guillaume a question .. you could increase the M3 or the Mercedes 190 for the next race or add Bmw 635?
I would like to participate in the next round of the TCL HSO .. but of course I will avoid the Sierra .. I just can not drive it ..
Thanks in any case, running with you is always a pleasure.
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Lee Gibson
Rookie
Lee Gibson


Number of posts : 37
Age : 44
Location : West London,England
Registration date : 2013-04-29

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Thanks to the HSO Admin team,It was my second RFactor race.I had a fun,Crashed and got lapped so many times i lost count,Hopefully i didnt cause much of a rolling roadblock & got out of most peoples way :hihi:
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Guillaume Siebert
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Guillaume Siebert


Number of posts : 13827
Age : 37
Location : Paris, France
Registration date : 2008-09-08

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I had great fun racing with the bigger cars during my stint, then handed the wheel to Ben and had great fun commentating his driving style :D
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Jonatan Acerclinth
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Jonatan Acerclinth


Number of posts : 1837
Age : 31
Location : Gräv, Sweden
Registration date : 2012-12-10

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I want to begin with a big sorry to Alberto and Mike. It was me who rear ended you when I missjudged at which speed you would take the corner before the corner leading onto the back straight and I unfortunately didn't have time to react and avoid you as I was climbing the curbs with almost the whole car and jumping onto the tarmac Sad


Apart from that it was a fairly lonely but fun drive around a terrific track Smile

Had a great start jumping a couple Boffa in the Sierra and 1 or 2 GrB cars as well so I'm very happy with that.

After a few laps I ended up in a great battle with Jean-François, Joël and Albert with Frank not that far behind in his Supra. I decided, that as it was for overall position, that I wouldn't let everyone past but battle for the postition as I knew that my racepace wasn't as strong as many of the competitiors (not enough laps to get a good enough set going) and I was defending hard, but as far as I could work out during the race, fair to try and keep my position with a few small "hurry alongs" (light taps midcorner where the Supra wasn't very strong) from Fean-François and once from Joël before, after Joël had been able to pass Jean-François when he got slightly held up by me, he missjudged my midcorner speed at the tight right hander after the backstraight and sent me spinning onto the infield.
With no speed to talk about I couldn't do a thing to stop the spin and I was sitting there reading a book waiting for it to stop :hihi:

After that I was trying to drive as quickly as I could but couldn't catch up to the group ahead but managed to catch Albert after his tires were gone and had a few laps with very good battles with him, both before and after the incident mentioned first in this post, happened.

Well done to all the lappers I came accross as well, mainly Vadim and Lee, both did a very good job at making sure to get out of the way of anyone lapping them. Brilliant work :clap:

As for me I hope that I didn't hold anyone up too much. Was still trying to go as quickly as possible hoping that I would start catching up to the guys ahead so might have been a bit overambitious with waiting until the lapper got close enough Embarassed

Was good fun throwing these TCL cars around this track which I haven't driven before now but deffinitly is among the best I've driven with these cars. No where near Lakeside, Mount Panorama or Wellington, but absolutely among the top 10's :D

Well done to everyone that took part, it wasn't an easy race :clap: :drink:


Hope to see you all next time and with a lot more of the battles I saw during the opening laps :top: :hello: :drink: cheers
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Tiago Malafaya
Racing Legend
Tiago Malafaya


Number of posts : 3384
Age : 46
Location : Porto, Portugal
Registration date : 2008-10-05

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Alberto Ibañez wrote:
Apologizes also to Tiago while lapping me, signalled you with lights to pass but you rear ended me instead of moving left for the inside as I had expected.

It was a misunderstanding from us both I guess; while you were signaling me to pass I was already at your right side, if I tried to go to the right side, it would be suicide, but nevermind; a normal racing incident, I wasn't even angry about it :hello:
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Mike Becnel
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Mike Becnel


Number of posts : 4741
Age : 55
Location : Sugar Land, TX, USA
Registration date : 2012-06-24

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Per Alberto the car was pushier than I expected. Offline it seemed much more balanced. My only real mistakes were minor pushes off track when using my practice brake points. Still, it was a clean race and I kept the spot I was handed by Alberto. I never touched anything which was a miracle by itself. Fun race and big hats off to the guys who drove the whole race. Iron men!

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Peter Lengyel
Club Driver



Number of posts : 55
Age : 35
Location : Hungary
Registration date : 2013-02-05

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Hi! Sorry, I could not start in the race, my net connection was totally gone 15 mins earlier than the race start. It's quite annoying for me, because I really looked forward to this race... Next time, I hope I get more luck (or more kB/s Smile )

Btw, congrat to all!
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Ben Paulet
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Ben Paulet


Number of posts : 8291
Age : 49
Location : Cagnes sur mer France
Registration date : 2009-07-29

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Guillaume Siebert wrote:
I had great fun racing with the bigger cars during my stint, then handed the wheel to Ben and had great fun commentating his driving style :D
Nice race with a podium to finish. Thanks Gui to have done the biggest part of work. And thx for your driving lesson by TS.
Still thx to all the drivers, nice behaviour on the track, and good spirit.
Gratz to Balazs for your win.
Some very nice battle to watch with Ricard, Tiago and Gui. :frank:
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Alberto Ibañez
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Alberto Ibañez


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Age : 121
Location : International Simracing Organisation
Registration date : 2010-09-17

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Per Alberto the car was pushier than I expected. Offline it seemed much more balanced. My only real mistakes were minor pushes off track when using my practice brake points.

And you were lucky to do the 2nd stint, as I gave you the car with mediums Smile I had destroyed my softs by lap 17 of 40 in my own stint Shocked

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want to begin with a big sorry to Alberto and Mike. It was me who rear ended you when I missjudged at which speed you would take the corner before the corner leading onto the back straight and I unfortunately didn't have time to react and avoid you as I was climbing the curbs with almost the whole car and jumping onto the tarmac

No problem mate somehow I saw it coming ... you had to drive the sh*t out of the Supra and I had an undriveable car already, so it was a matter of time before the huge difference in cornering style/speed brought us together. That's racing :drink:

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It was a misunderstanding from us both I guess; while you were signaling me to pass I was already at your right side, if I tried to go to the right side, it would be suicide, but nevermind; a normal racing incident, I wasn't even angry about it

Thxs, relieved to hear that :hello: It didn't help eother that we were into a series of corners with little space between them, and I had to drive, keep my line, check the mirrors and loose a hand from the steering wheel to activate lights and signal you the pass. I happened to do it and slow a bit to facilitate things while you were already committed to pass on the other side :smil20:
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Vincent Beretta
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Vincent Beretta


Number of posts : 1398
Age : 45
Location : France
Registration date : 2008-12-15

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j'avais vraiment pas le setup pour aller loin. En qualifs, ça a fait un peu illusion, mais en course, après 10 tours seulement, l’arrière voulait passer devant dans tous les virages.
En tout cas, j'ai regardé l'essentiel de la course et je me suis régalé :top: Merci Ben pour l'organisation :top:
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Jonatan Acerclinth
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Jonatan Acerclinth


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[quote="Alberto Ibañez"]
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No problem mate somehow I saw it coming ... you had to drive the sh*t out of the Supra and I had an undriveable car already, so it was a matter of time before the huge difference in cornering style/speed brought us together. That's racing :drink:

Ok.

No worries for our T1 contact, it didn't cause any damage, just more fun :D :top: :drink:

I hope that I made up for the contact with the racing I gave you prior and after that contact and that you enjoyed the driftshow as I was drifting and sliding quite a bit during the last few laps :D
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Tiago Malafaya
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Tiago Malafaya


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Location : Porto, Portugal
Registration date : 2008-10-05

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Alberto Ibañez wrote:
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It was a misunderstanding from us both I guess; while you were signaling me to pass I was already at your right side, if I tried to go to the right side, it would be suicide, but nevermind; a normal racing incident, I wasn't even angry about it

I meant left side lol!
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Alberto Ibañez
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Alberto Ibañez


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Age : 121
Location : International Simracing Organisation
Registration date : 2010-09-17

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I meant left side lol!

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hope that I made up for the contact with the
racing I gave you prior and after that contact and that you enjoyed the
driftshow as I was drifting and sliding quite a bit during the last few
laps

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David Jundt
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David Jundt


Number of posts : 2647
Age : 34
Location : Binningen, Switzerland
Registration date : 2012-07-14

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My strategy worked great after all.

Great start and jumped right into the pack. After I had cleared most cars, I was 10th. I was chasing Greg and Roma was chasing me. I caught Greg when he made a mistake, he'd end up battling with Roma(giving me over 15s advantage) and retire in the end Sad

I rose as high as 2nd through the pit stops, I made it to lap 60 on full tank and decided to put on Softs. It worked very well as I was hounding Ben and Antoine just laps later. I overtook Ben when he made a mistake, but had a great battle with Antoine before I managed to get by and extend my gap to him.

4th place is better than expected, but I wasn't the one shining in Class B... we were all destroyed :aie:

Thanks for the event! :top:
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Joel Sixou
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Joel Sixou


Number of posts : 369
Age : 60
Location : TOULON
Registration date : 2008-09-14

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mes excuses à Jonatan qui m'a touchette l'a fait spiné Sad vraiment desole... l'arsouille fut trop court, j'espere que tu ne m'en voudras pas d'etre reparti aussitot Embarassed
sinon, ma course j'ai donné ce que je pouvais pour un resultat mediocre. tiens je ne comprend pas pourquoi je n'avais pas la possibilité de mettre la 6 dans mon setup comparé à certaine bm scratch
mais bon c'est pas une excuse, c'est mon niveau qui fait ce que je suis sur piste, mais je me suis bien amusé et j'ai tenu jusqu'au bout les 2heures passées :aie:

impressionnant Balazs, 2 podiums ce soir là pour lui non? Shocked

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Guillaume Siebert
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Guillaume Siebert


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Age : 37
Location : Paris, France
Registration date : 2008-09-08

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Non seul le classement par classe compte Wink
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Mike Becnel
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Mike Becnel


Number of posts : 4741
Age : 55
Location : Sugar Land, TX, USA
Registration date : 2012-06-24

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Medium tires? No wonder i pushed so much in the turns affraid ! I guess my lines were easier on the tires. I did 3 full runs in practice on softs and they did well.
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Jonatan Acerclinth
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Jonatan Acerclinth


Number of posts : 1837
Age : 31
Location : Gräv, Sweden
Registration date : 2012-12-10

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Joel Sixou wrote:
mes excuses à Jonatan qui m'a touchette l'a fait spiné Sad vraiment desole... l'arsouille fut trop court, j'espere que tu ne m'en voudras pas d'etre reparti aussitot Embarassed
No need to worry Joël, it was an honest misstake Smile

At the time it happened I wasn't happy though :hihi:

I was very slow midcorner due to my setup and you hadn't been behind me enough to know what speed I was going to have Smile

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