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+35Arnaud Plum Carl Larrad finally gone :) Giuseppe Scaccia Joel Sixou Laurent Binet Ludovic Tagli Alessio Campigotto Cyril Derkir Paul Nadeau Gérard Ryon Jonatan Acerclinth Teemu Toikka Greg Hunt Erik Tveit Dave Miller Jean-François Bovy Philippe Martinelli Jon Hicken Vincent Beretta Richard Coxon Franck Mercurio Christian Bergmann Yannick Lampure Yves Plaçais Jon Lasa Philippe Marot Philippe Bousquet Oscar Hardwick Patrick Marucco Frank Verplanken David Jundt Guillaume Siebert Peter Blom Ben Paulet 39 posters |
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Giuseppe Scaccia Experienced Driver
Number of posts : 236 Age : 42 Location : Italy Registration date : 2012-09-30
| Subject: Re: Round 4 - Rhein-Ruhr Pokal-Rennen [March 13th] Thu 14 Mar 2013 - 0:40 | |
| Ok understood your words...
I dont't understand why Gid was saying 24/24 laps...finishing lap finished race...now results says that i made 21 laps... | |
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Giuseppe Scaccia Experienced Driver
Number of posts : 236 Age : 42 Location : Italy Registration date : 2012-09-30
| Subject: Re: Round 4 - Rhein-Ruhr Pokal-Rennen [March 13th] Thu 14 Mar 2013 - 0:49 | |
| - Ben Paulet wrote:
- The export gives you, 21 laps. And 21 laps it's equal to 87,5% of the race.
I'm sorry but i made 24 laps...i'm sure because i read 24/24 and 5 turns before start i was happy to finish race in few seconds...but engine died....i was sure to get my points! Replay can explain this? | |
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Guillaume Siebert League Owner
Number of posts : 13827 Age : 37 Location : Paris, France Registration date : 2008-09-08
| Subject: Re: Round 4 - Rhein-Ruhr Pokal-Rennen [March 13th] Thu 14 Mar 2013 - 0:52 | |
| If your engine died before the end you certainly did not covered 24 laps as that was the full race distance And I remember lapping you once, maybe Philippe lapped you twice as he was way ahead of me. | |
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Giuseppe Scaccia Experienced Driver
Number of posts : 236 Age : 42 Location : Italy Registration date : 2012-09-30
| Subject: Re: Round 4 - Rhein-Ruhr Pokal-Rennen [March 13th] Thu 14 Mar 2013 - 1:06 | |
| i can't understand why GID was saying 24/24...like you are saying,now lookin the replay in facts the counter says 22 before engine's die Edit Maybe Gid's counter,counts the laps of 1 driver.... | |
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Samuli Leinonen Club Driver
Number of posts : 181 Age : 45 Location : Helsinki Registration date : 2012-12-18
| Subject: Re: Round 4 - Rhein-Ruhr Pokal-Rennen [March 13th] Thu 14 Mar 2013 - 9:13 | |
| There is a reason why I don't trust GID or RfDynHud or other plugins. In this race the plugin shows me chequered flag in the middle of epic fight, so I lift and lose the race. Takes me some time to understand race is not over. ;(
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=oaZ6acVXE8Q#t=2103s
I'm in the blue/white Porsche. | |
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Frank Verplanken League Owner
Number of posts : 13574 Age : 48 Location : Nice, France Registration date : 2008-09-08
| Subject: Re: Round 4 - Rhein-Ruhr Pokal-Rennen [March 13th] Thu 14 Mar 2013 - 9:29 | |
| Even with 21 laps covered Giuseppe should score points. Here is how the 90% rule works : 90% of 24 laps is 21.6 laps, which means you need to cover 21 laps to be eligible for points, as the decimal is always discarded in this rule . As for the restart incident. Ben and I race under the same roof. He chose to do a restart for David's problem and asked me if I agreed and said yes. Unfortunately I could not remember the admin command to restart the race so I told him to ask Gui. Once the restart was announced in the chat it should have been executed by the admins, so really it was a pity that Gui said no because it gives a bad image of the league's cohesion among admins and it was most certainly going to screw up some drivers' race. And it did. Having said that if Ben or me were for a restart it was our job to know the admin command and shouldn't have bothered Gui with it. So big admin clusterfuck here and we apologize for it. On the other hand, David was whinning during the formation lap along the lines "I can't race like that" but as soon as the green dropped he could obviously "race like that". Even more he could dirty race like that and spoiled my race with his ugly moves to keep his position. Really some ugly shit in that first lap David, it was really some depressing stuff to witness. If you were not comfortable without ffb you just should have let faster people through rather than trying to stay ahead of everybody like if your life depended on it . Oscar leaving the league is sad as it means one less driver in the DRP races, but that's the only sad point to it imho because it also makes for a nice 90% drop in the level of arrogance in the league. His constant bragging about his so-called driving prowesses has always bothered us, and he is not the cleanest driver on track either. People with such mentalities and egos have nothing to do in our league, really. | |
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Jon Lasa Club Driver
Number of posts : 112 Age : 44 Location : Green Capital 2012 Registration date : 2010-05-20
| Subject: Re: Round 4 - Rhein-Ruhr Pokal-Rennen [March 13th] Thu 14 Mar 2013 - 12:08 | |
| Not bad, 8th position I didn't have time to practice before qualy and results show it My qualy was bad (I reduced 2 secs of qualy time on race's fast lap) and on race must try again to recovery my "real" position After first laps confusion, I was in a bad start position and was caution with 2 Muscles in front, I won 2-3 positions for abandons I think and overtake those 2 Camaros. I saw coming from backside to Frank, It's was too soon for blue flags, but I see much more faster than me and I thought would has problems on first laps, I leave him overtake and continued "my race". In a few laps I was alone and only have options to overtake Zubov twice, near lap 5, then he recovered position for a mistake and again near lap 10 I overtake him when he was on grass... after that, was continue understanding those cars and try to evite mistakes Finally, I finished 8th and hope to do better next time Congrats all class winners, podiums and thanks to HSO | |
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Ben Paulet Racing Legend
Number of posts : 8291 Age : 49 Location : Cagnes sur mer France Registration date : 2009-07-29
| Subject: Re: Round 4 - Rhein-Ruhr Pokal-Rennen [March 13th] Thu 14 Mar 2013 - 12:48 | |
| - Frank Verplanken wrote:
- Even with 21 laps covered Giuseppe should score points. Here is how the 90% rule works : 90% of 24 laps is 21.6 laps, which means you need to cover 21 laps to be eligible for points, as the decimal is always discarded in this rule .
T'as compris Martin, la décimale ne compte pas. Je passe pour imbécile à ne pas compter tous les points. Merci Franky, pour cette précision sur le décompte des points. Giuseppe, your standing is updated. Bien entendu, Martin, tu es viré. | |
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Greg Hunt Racing Legend
Number of posts : 4322 Age : 40 Location : HOSSEGOR Registration date : 2010-03-25
| Subject: Re: Round 4 - Rhein-Ruhr Pokal-Rennen [March 13th] Thu 14 Mar 2013 - 12:59 | |
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Ben Paulet Racing Legend
Number of posts : 8291 Age : 49 Location : Cagnes sur mer France Registration date : 2009-07-29
| Subject: Re: Round 4 - Rhein-Ruhr Pokal-Rennen [March 13th] Thu 14 Mar 2013 - 13:04 | |
| Il a déjà ouvert le bal des dizaines de fois. Mais il est si mignon, qu'on le reprend à chaque fois. | |
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Giuseppe Scaccia Experienced Driver
Number of posts : 236 Age : 42 Location : Italy Registration date : 2012-09-30
| Subject: Re: Round 4 - Rhein-Ruhr Pokal-Rennen [March 13th] Thu 14 Mar 2013 - 14:01 | |
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Patrick Marucco Racing Legend
Number of posts : 2399 Age : 67 Location : Joué les Tours Registration date : 2008-12-18
| Subject: Re: Round 4 - Rhein-Ruhr Pokal-Rennen [March 13th] Thu 14 Mar 2013 - 14:59 | |
| Belle soirée de course, j'ai passé de tres agréables moments en compagnies de gentlemen, quand c'est comme ça c'est le pied Parti en milieu de grille je me suis retrouvé derrière la Mustang d'Erik, je ne sais pas comment il faisait pour la garder sur la route mais le suivre etait jouissif Puis apres qu'il m'ai laissé la voie libre je me suis retrouvé derrière la Camaro de Giuseppe et là encore pendant plus d'un tiers de la course ce fût un vrai bonheur, bravo Giuseppe Au 17eme tour apres avoir passé Giuseppe et alors que j'etais remonté en 9eme position, je me suis malheureusement loupé au freinage de la chicane et en tapant le mur j'ai crevé et abimé ma belle Escort Passage au stand pour réparation et j'y reste malheureusement beaucoup trop longtemps (210 s) pour esperer un bon classement, je termine donc la course en roue libre Merci à tous pour cette belle soirée et merci à HSO pour nous permettre de vivre de tels evênements A la prochaine | |
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Giuseppe Scaccia Experienced Driver
Number of posts : 236 Age : 42 Location : Italy Registration date : 2012-09-30
| Subject: Re: Round 4 - Rhein-Ruhr Pokal-Rennen [March 13th] Thu 14 Mar 2013 - 16:12 | |
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Yannick Lampure Pro Driver
Number of posts : 914 Age : 58 Location : toulouse, france Registration date : 2009-02-23
| Subject: Re: Round 4 - Rhein-Ruhr Pokal-Rennen [March 13th] Thu 14 Mar 2013 - 17:25 | |
| boooo vraiment désolé apéro chez la belle-soeur j'ai complètement oublié la course | |
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Philippe Bousquet Club Driver
Number of posts : 143 Age : 50 Location : Albi france Registration date : 2010-06-15
| Subject: Re: Round 4 - Rhein-Ruhr Pokal-Rennen [March 13th] Thu 14 Mar 2013 - 20:17 | |
| Pour moi, super soirée. Tout d'abord je réussi a amélioré mon chrono par rapport a la 1ere course sur Zolder, ce qui me permet de réaliser la pôle. Ensuite, pour la course, même si je me sent un peut seul, je m'éclate comme un fou avec mon Escort et je me suis régalé a lappé les TC3. Comme d'habitude, bravo a tous pour le respect des drapeaux bleues. Bravo a Guillaume et Greg pour leur victoire dans leurs classes respectives et grand merci a tous les organisateurs. PS: Ma seule petite déception pour la course d'hier est l'abscence de Yannick qui c'est oublié a Moi qui croyais qu'on allé se refaire un mano a mano de 24t. | |
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Jon Hicken Club Driver
Number of posts : 129 Age : 32 Location : Leeds, UK Registration date : 2012-10-29
| Subject: Re: Round 4 - Rhein-Ruhr Pokal-Rennen [March 13th] Thu 14 Mar 2013 - 21:27 | |
| - Ben Paulet wrote:
- If there was an error tonight it was mine. I should not ask about a restart.
That's all that needed to be said about the whole drama. Merci. Oh and by the way: - Ben Paulet wrote:
- Mais il est si mignon, qu'on le reprend à chaque fois.
Je connais francais, je peut lire... etre sympa. | |
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David Jundt Racing Legend
Number of posts : 2647 Age : 34 Location : Binningen, Switzerland Registration date : 2012-07-14
| Subject: Re: Round 4 - Rhein-Ruhr Pokal-Rennen [March 13th] Fri 15 Mar 2013 - 0:58 | |
| - Frank Verplanken wrote:
On the other hand, David was whinning during the formation lap along the lines "I can't race like that" but as soon as the green dropped he could obviously "race like that". Even more he could dirty race like that and spoiled my race with his ugly moves to keep his position. Really some ugly shit in that first lap David, it was really some depressing stuff to witness. If you were not comfortable without ffb you just should have let faster people through rather than trying to stay ahead of everybody like if your life depended on it .
Well, ofc I had to life with it, but there was no feel. And this mod is so much less fun without realfeel. So obviously I wasn't happy, I don't think you 'd have been happy either Frank, this is tourig car racing. I guess I might have been too rough(oh guess why, think I was a bit unhappy), but this isn't single seater racing where people move over in order not to stumble over their own suspensions. I know I had no FFB feel, but why should I drop back? I am told I have to deal with no FFB, so please deal with me. And to be honest: I've seen far worse in my simracing life than that paint exchange we had. Up to this post, I haven't dropped any swear word so far. And I won't | |
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Ben Paulet Racing Legend
Number of posts : 8291 Age : 49 Location : Cagnes sur mer France Registration date : 2009-07-29
| Subject: Re: Round 4 - Rhein-Ruhr Pokal-Rennen [March 13th] Fri 15 Mar 2013 - 11:42 | |
| Une course sans éclat mais sérieuse. Qualifié en P6, je prends un départ correct. J'essaie les premiers tours de garder le contact avec le quintet leader. Les choses ne se passent pas trop mal, quelques bagarres avec Peter, que je vais doubler au T2 dans le 3ème tour. Puis la chance me sourit quand je vois mon pov' Franky sur le bas côté. Puis un peu plus tard, rebelotte avec la voiture de David. Du coup je me retrouve en P3, avec 2 aliens devant moi. Je ferai bien quelques tours derrière l'alien Siebert, mais impossible de se rapprocher de lui. Il me laisse bien y croire un moment en faisant une petit faute, ce qui me permet de le recoller. Mais de suite après, je mesure encore tout le fossé qui nous sépare. Puisqu'il prendra le large avec une 10aine de secondes d'avance. Je commets ma seule erreur importante vers le 18ème tour. Une erreur qui va engendrer un peu de stress, puisque d'un matelas douillet de 8-9 sec d'avance sur mes poursuivants, je tombe à 3-4 sec. Du coup je me raidis un peu sur le volant, la conduite devient moins coulée, et je perds des petits dixièmes. Je termine en P3, avec 2-3 seconde pas plus sur mon poursuivant. Un podium qui fait plaisir aujourd'hui, mais pas le soir même. Car si je fais l'erreur du restart, je ne pense pas que ça valait ces déchainements de haine que j'ai pu voir sur le forum. Il faut se rappeler que les admins font ça pour leur plaisir d'abord, mais aussi pour celui des autres. Et que le temps qu'ils y passent à gérer, préparer, modder, se fait sur leurs temps libres, et qu'ils ne sont absolument pas payé pour. Alors quand ils se cassent la tête pour avoir des courses qui ressemblent, un tant soit peu, à de vraies courses, je trouve vraiment dommageable et sans respect les commentaires qu'on a pu lire. Maintenant on est pas fait pour tous être des amis, mais par contre on peut essayer de rouler ensemble, dans le respect de l'autre. Sorry for the no-translation, but my english is worse than my French. | |
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Cyril Derkir Experienced Driver
Number of posts : 427 Age : 48 Location : france Registration date : 2012-12-24
| Subject: Re: Round 4 - Rhein-Ruhr Pokal-Rennen [March 13th] Fri 15 Mar 2013 - 13:33 | |
| pas sympa de mettre la pression à l'organisation meme si on trouve qu'elle a apparement commis une faute je pense qu'il vaut mieux tacher de les encourager à défaut de les aider | |
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Ludovic Tagli Experienced Driver
Number of posts : 201 Age : 49 Location : france Registration date : 2010-05-01
| Subject: Re: Round 4 - Rhein-Ruhr Pokal-Rennen [March 13th] Fri 15 Mar 2013 - 13:40 | |
| bonjour j ai pris beaucoup de plaisir a rouler avec la bmw,un peu septique au debut mais elle est super agreable a conduire en faite,avec l aide de philippe bousquet pour c est reglage volant qui mon aidé enormement merci a lui,pour la course bonne bourre avec quelques pilotes super fairplay comme d habitude. merci a l organisation pour le boulot qu il font pour nous permettre de prendre du plaisir au volant de c est magnifique voiture . a bientot en piste | |
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Christian Bergmann Rookie
Number of posts : 31 Age : 37 Location : Germany Registration date : 2013-02-15
| Subject: Re: Round 4 - Rhein-Ruhr Pokal-Rennen [March 13th] Fri 15 Mar 2013 - 18:04 | |
| Oh bummer i missed this one badly, sorry for that | |
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Philippe Marot Club Driver
Number of posts : 50 Age : 59 Location : saint remy les chevreuse (france) Registration date : 2013-02-07
| Subject: Re: Round 4 - Rhein-Ruhr Pokal-Rennen [March 13th] Fri 15 Mar 2013 - 21:14 | |
| je partage l'avis de Cyril J'ai effacé deux messages avant de les envoyer car ma formulation était beaucoup moins "politiquement correct" merci Ben pour le temps que tu passes pour organiser ces courses
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Ben Paulet Racing Legend
Number of posts : 8291 Age : 49 Location : Cagnes sur mer France Registration date : 2009-07-29
| Subject: Re: Round 4 - Rhein-Ruhr Pokal-Rennen [March 13th] Sat 16 Mar 2013 - 11:16 | |
| - Philippe Marot wrote:
je partage l'avis de Cyril J'ai effacé deux messages avant de les envoyer car ma formulation était beaucoup moins "politiquement correct" merci Ben pour le temps que tu passes pour organiser ces courses
Moi, je n'y passe pas beaucoup de temps, ce sont surtout les 3 mousquetaires, et les modders qui abattent un boulot phénoménal. Et ça m'agace quand certains crachent sur cette ligue, alors qu'ils se comportent en simples consommateurs. | |
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Frank Verplanken League Owner
Number of posts : 13574 Age : 48 Location : Nice, France Registration date : 2008-09-08
| Subject: Re: Round 4 - Rhein-Ruhr Pokal-Rennen [March 13th] Sun 17 Mar 2013 - 8:56 | |
| - David Jundt wrote:
- Frank, this is tourig car racing. I guess I might have been too rough(oh guess why, think I was a bit unhappy), but this isn't single seater racing where people move over in order not to stumble over their own suspensions.
Is it me or are you pretending to teach me what racing is ? I was attending GPs that you weren't born kiddo, and I've seen more races, read more racing books and magazines than you, Oscar Hardwick and Jake Cooper all put together will in two lifetimes. So really I don't need your pathetic justifications. Sounds to me you're only trying to convince yourself you're a virgin when in fact it seems you've been repeatedly raped by modern Formula nOne and NA$CAR which probably tends to cloud your judgement as regards to what racing, fair-play and correctness on track are. As this race and several others before that tend to prove. - David Jundt wrote:
- I know I had no FFB feel, but why should I drop back? I am told I have to deal with no FFB, so please deal with me.
I'll deal with you if I want to and how I want to. This is my league, I put more time and passion in it than most of the members put in their real life job. So really I don't have to deal with you if I don't want to. There is no law saying I have to let you be a member of HSO. And even if there was one I would break it without thinking twice if you piss me off too much. On or off the track. - David Jundt wrote:
- And to be honest: I've seen far worse in my simracing life than that paint exchange we had.
I couldn't care less which ugliness you witnessed and/or committed in other simracing leagues. The standards of fair-play are so low in most of the other leagues that they all need to ultra-police their events and have to elaborate complicated scales of sanctions. We don't do this here and never will. We're like the Brooklands of simracing : "the right crowd and no crowding". I'd rather have races with 10 Larrads, Coxons, Becnels or Malafayas than ones with 30 Hardwicks, Jundts, Tiengous and Boukerches. So please stop trying to lower my league to these bottom-life traction-control Ecclestoned standards, and adjust yourself to HSO standards instead. Or get lost. Now, apologies for the arrogance within this post, but I guess I tend to be Hardwicky when I post right out of bed on Sunday mornings before I get my dose of cafeine | |
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Oscar Hardwick Club Driver
Number of posts : 162 Age : 29 Location : United Kingdom Registration date : 2012-10-14
| Subject: Re: Round 4 - Rhein-Ruhr Pokal-Rennen [March 13th] Mon 18 Mar 2013 - 8:19 | |
| - Frank Verplanken wrote:
- I tend to be Hardwicky when I post right out of bed
I wasn't aware that admins bashing members was such a big thing here. But thanks for validating the decisions I have recently made. Oscar. | |
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