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 HSO 1987 Group C

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German Soto
Franco Roberti
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Jacob Fredriksson
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Marcelo Aiello
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Raul Jereb
Damian Baldi
Alberto Ibañez
David Cid
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Tiago Malafaya
David Jundt
Martin Audran
Vadim Sadoshenko
Richard Coxon
Guillaume Siebert
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Guillaume Siebert
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Guillaume Siebert


Number of posts : 13827
Age : 37
Location : Paris, France
Registration date : 2008-09-08

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PostSubject: HSO 1987 Group C   HSO 1987 Group C Icon_minitimeSun 9 Dec 2012 - 16:56

HSO 1987 Group C GroupC1987

I. Installation :

Extract the content of the archive file in your rFactor root folder.

II. Description :

Cars :

This mod recreates the major part of the Group C1 field from 1987, with cars from the World Sportcars Championship, the IMSA GTP series and the ADAC Supercup series. It contains the following cars :

Porsche 962C :

The dominant car of this era was maybe not as advanced as the Jaguar XJR-8 or the Sauber C9 on the aerodynamic side, but it was still very competitive. It comes in this mod in 3 different specifications.
- The factory specification (3-litre engine, 750 HP and 865 kilos) only for the Porsche AG factory team. A very fast car, close to the Jaguar XJR-8 and Sauber C9, with good fuel efficiency.
- A specification for the most important privateer teams (2.9-litre engine, 720 HP and 885 kilos). A bit slower than the factory spec, and with lesser fuel mileage.
- A specification for the smallest privateer teams (2.8-litre engine, 700 HP and 910 kilos). The slowest spec of the Porsche 962C, with even lesser fuel mileage.

Jaguar XJR-8

The Jaguar XJR-8 is the fastest car of the field in race condition. Having a normally-aspirated engine, this car has the best fuel mileage of the field, and should have the best top-end speed on race day, when the turbo cars will turn their boost down. Its linear engine, good braking and high downforce make it a fairly easy car to drive.

Sauber C9

1987 was the year the new Sauber C9 was introduced. It was obviously lacking development, but with a great engine and advanced aerodynamics, it was already a very fast car right out of the box. The Mercedes engine is the most powerful in qualifying mode, but its fuel mileage is quite average. This car is not the easiest to drive because of its brutal high-end torque engine and average braking.

Lancia LC2

Introduced in 1983 and not factory-supported anymore since 1986, the Lancia LC2 was getting outdated by 1987. It is heavy, underpowered, lacking downforce and not fuel-efficient. Only Lancia tofisi or fast drivers looking for a challenge should consider driving that one !

Fuel and tires :

Appart from the Jaguar XJR-8, all cars have a turbocharged engine. This means the driver will be able to adjust the boost pressure in his setup and while driving, to increase or decrease power. This will obviously have an impact on the fuel consumption, as more boost will burn more fuel. All cars should be capable of running for one hour with the boost turned down to 2, but depending on the engine, you may be able with this setting to save some fuel and run with a higher boost setting for a while.

Each cars comes with 3 tire compounds : soft, medium and hard.
Softs should be good for 40 to 50 minutes of racing, mediums for 60 to 70 minutes, and hards for almost 120 minutes.

III. Know issues :

Alt+Tab will not work anymore once the Jaguar XJR-8 has been displayed.

IV. Thanks, sources and acknowledgments :

Original 3D models from Prototype-C Mod created by Virtual LM for F1-Challenge.

Physics : Guillaume Siebert, Alberto Ibanez, Martin Audran
3D stuff : JP Campmajo, Gianluca Desposito, Alberto Ibanez
Additional skins : Gianluca Desposito, Carl Larrad, Guillaume Siebert
Betatesters: Gregoire Goissen, Ben Paulet, Yannick Lampuré, Vincent Beretta, Tiago Malafaya

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=> DOWNLOAD PATCH 1.03 <=
=> Alternative patch download <=

=> TEMPLATES <=

Patch 1.03 includes :

- Fixed rear instability at high speed
- Reduced tire heating (for all tires compound)
- Fixed #15 Richard Lloyd Racing Porsche tachometer
- Fixed #88 Primus Porsche window
- Improved collision box
- Fixed head and rear lights
- Reduced fuel consumption for the Jaguar XJR-8


Last edited by Guillaume Siebert on Mon 19 Aug 2013 - 19:42; edited 16 times in total
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Richard Coxon
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Registration date : 2012-06-29

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PostSubject: Re: HSO 1987 Group C   HSO 1987 Group C Icon_minitimeSun 9 Dec 2012 - 18:09

Can I just say a massive and I mean massive round of applause to everyone involved in this! You have released something really really special here! This mod for me is a dream come true to drive these cars on Rfactor. So well done all of you and again Thankyou!!

P.S Carl you was right, I do love it!
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Vadim Sadoshenko
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Vadim Sadoshenko


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Registration date : 2011-12-18

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PostSubject: Re: HSO 1987 Group C   HSO 1987 Group C Icon_minitimeSun 9 Dec 2012 - 18:54

I beg your pardon, but how soon will the mod will be available for download?
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Martin Audran
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Martin Audran


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Location : Vannes, France
Registration date : 2008-09-08

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PostSubject: Re: HSO 1987 Group C   HSO 1987 Group C Icon_minitimeSun 9 Dec 2012 - 18:56

Guillaume Siebert wrote:

=> DOWNLOAD <=
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David Jundt
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PostSubject: Re: HSO 1987 Group C   HSO 1987 Group C Icon_minitimeSun 9 Dec 2012 - 18:58

Just done some laps with the Salamin car at Hockenheim. What an awesome feeling. Really well done guys!

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Vadim Sadoshenko
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PostSubject: Re: HSO 1987 Group C   HSO 1987 Group C Icon_minitimeSun 9 Dec 2012 - 19:02

Martin Audran wrote:
Guillaume Siebert wrote:

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Martin Audran
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Martin Audran


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PostSubject: Re: HSO 1987 Group C   HSO 1987 Group C Icon_minitimeSun 9 Dec 2012 - 19:03

It works fine here, strange scratch
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Tiago Malafaya
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Tiago Malafaya


Number of posts : 3384
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Location : Porto, Portugal
Registration date : 2008-10-05

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PostSubject: Re: HSO 1987 Group C   HSO 1987 Group C Icon_minitimeSun 9 Dec 2012 - 19:39

Really dissapointed for not being included in the credits :doh:
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Guillaume Siebert
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PostSubject: Re: HSO 1987 Group C   HSO 1987 Group C Icon_minitimeSun 9 Dec 2012 - 19:39

:papy:
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Tiago Malafaya
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Tiago Malafaya


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Registration date : 2008-10-05

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PostSubject: Re: HSO 1987 Group C   HSO 1987 Group C Icon_minitimeSun 9 Dec 2012 - 19:41

True, I told you're getting worse at each year passing, track included :rigol: :langue:
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Vadim Sadoshenko
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PostSubject: Re: HSO 1987 Group C   HSO 1987 Group C Icon_minitimeSun 9 Dec 2012 - 20:41

Guys my dear! Why didn't you let me help you!
All models, which you used I brought into complete order. Added visualization of the exhaust, the glow of brake discs, driver's hands and much, much more.
How did it... :doh: !
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PostSubject: Re: HSO 1987 Group C   HSO 1987 Group C Icon_minitimeSun 9 Dec 2012 - 21:31

Because when you started posting about it, ours was already almost finished.
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David Jundt
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PostSubject: Re: HSO 1987 Group C   HSO 1987 Group C Icon_minitimeSun 9 Dec 2012 - 21:57

Bad timing I guess.

Although Vadim is working on a rather complete one, HSO has done 1987 only? No?
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Vadim Sadoshenko
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PostSubject: Re: HSO 1987 Group C   HSO 1987 Group C Icon_minitimeSun 9 Dec 2012 - 22:04

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However, there may not yet be too late!
But it is to decide not me.
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Guillaume Siebert
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PostSubject: Re: HSO 1987 Group C   HSO 1987 Group C Icon_minitimeSun 9 Dec 2012 - 22:40

Well no I don't want to release a patch only for graphical stuff but i'm sure your skills can be useful for the next GroupC mod we are planning Wink
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Vadim Sadoshenko
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PostSubject: Re: HSO 1987 Group C   HSO 1987 Group C Icon_minitimeSun 9 Dec 2012 - 22:46

Guillaume Siebert wrote:
Well no I don't want to release a patch only for graphical stuff but i'm sure your skills can be useful for the next GroupC mod we are planning Wink
I am always glad to help Guillaume :yaa: !
Remember this :papy: !

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Tiago Malafaya
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Tiago Malafaya


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PostSubject: Re: HSO 1987 Group C   HSO 1987 Group C Icon_minitimeSun 9 Dec 2012 - 22:50

You're not working in vain Vadim :hello:
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David Jundt
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David Jundt


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PostSubject: Re: HSO 1987 Group C   HSO 1987 Group C Icon_minitimeSun 9 Dec 2012 - 23:07

Indeed, really promising stuff from you Vadim Very Happy

That Lancia looks better, even though it doesn't get any faster Razz

Shame it's not a factory one, they had the best paint job with Martini Wink
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Diego Dário
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Diego Dário


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PostSubject: Re: HSO 1987 Group C   HSO 1987 Group C Icon_minitimeSun 9 Dec 2012 - 23:46

Guillaume Siebert wrote:
Well no I don't want to release a patch only for graphical stuff but i'm sure your skills can be useful for the next GroupC mod we are planning Wink

Tell me that it is either a World Sport Cars Championship or a IMSA GTP season please! :hihi: lol!
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Guillaume Siebert
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Guillaume Siebert


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PostSubject: Re: HSO 1987 Group C   HSO 1987 Group C Icon_minitimeMon 10 Dec 2012 - 0:08

Well those cars didn't race in thousands of championships. :hihi:
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Diego Dário
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Diego Dário


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PostSubject: Re: HSO 1987 Group C   HSO 1987 Group C Icon_minitimeMon 10 Dec 2012 - 0:20

True, but i never knew of a German Group C series until a few days ago. :hum: :papy:
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Guillaume Siebert
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PostSubject: Re: HSO 1987 Group C   HSO 1987 Group C Icon_minitimeMon 10 Dec 2012 - 0:27

Ze bloody germans have raced almost every types of cars on their stupid tracks :D
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David Cid
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PostSubject: Re: HSO 1987 Group C   HSO 1987 Group C Icon_minitimeMon 10 Dec 2012 - 0:33

lol!
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David Jundt
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David Jundt


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PostSubject: Re: HSO 1987 Group C   HSO 1987 Group C Icon_minitimeWed 12 Dec 2012 - 0:06

When I drove Sauber and put on the lights, the head lights were rather bright balls that looked like they were attached to the outside of the glass and the red rear light's shine looked like being far away from the car, the glow "following" the car in several metres distance to the rear.

Not sure about other cars.

Is that normal?
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Alberto Ibañez
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PostSubject: Re: HSO 1987 Group C   HSO 1987 Group C Icon_minitimeWed 12 Dec 2012 - 0:25

Quote :
the red rear light's shine looked like being far away from the car, the glow "following" the car in several metres distance to the rear.

Wow, that Sauber is fast in your hands lol!

Seriously, it will be some kind of glitch due to not having moved the light animation in the 3D to the proper place. Thxs for reporting will go to the "to-do" fixes/glitches/bugs list. Which hopefully will be short and just of minor things like this. drunken
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