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Alberto Ibañez
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David Jundt
Frank Verplanken
Victor Alcocer
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Mike Becnel
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Tiago Malafaya
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Mike Becnel
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PostSubject: Re: 1991 F1 - Rules / Règlement   1991 F1 - Rules / Règlement - Page 3 Icon_minitimeTue 25 Dec 2012 - 0:32

Guillaume Siebert wrote:
"$%^&* $%^ fils de pute, tu viens de $%^&* ma voiture." :hello: :D

Ohhh I feel so tingly. Is silk dry clean only??

Quote edited for Tiago's happiness

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François Remmen
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PostSubject: Re: 1991 F1 - Rules / Règlement   1991 F1 - Rules / Règlement - Page 3 Icon_minitimeFri 28 Dec 2012 - 19:34

the way i tune in the car is to find the max tire load in qualify as race trim
make sure you use the physics guide and check the optimum tire temperatures for each compound
when you reach about 100 degree you should get that rubber feeling which tires does have
(adjust by tirepressure and camber and packers)

Also i setup the car "visualy" like when you brake the front dives and gernerate sparks form the front wing-skidblades and driving on bumps the car need to spark when it bottems specialy with full tanks! which mean higher rideheights at the rear
but sparks no more when the fuel burns off!
its a kind of thing i like to simulate like the real cars and with very hard suspension you can drive on some tracks with 2.0 3.5 rideheight that way this means the car wont need much camber cause it drags itself down to the tarmac and safe rubber also a -1.00 front toe in will help to steer in the car as + 50 at the rear toe out

with suspension bumps/ rebounds aprox 50/60 at rear ( stable) and 30/40 in front ( movement you feel the car behaves nice
in general in Qualify trim i most use a very hard front and abit softer rear
but in race trim i use it visa versa cause the car understeers alot harder with the 220L of fuel at the back
make sure the rear tires gets abit hotter then the front unless you on Estoril, Monza and some more hard left or right hander tracks the front will wear much harder!

also the high nose cars generate more Downforce compare the low nose cars which cannot ride not as low
cause a straight with full sparks is spectaculare but infact the diffuser is stalling and slower you speed!

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Alberto Ibañez
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PostSubject: Re: 1991 F1 - Rules / Règlement   1991 F1 - Rules / Règlement - Page 3 Icon_minitimeFri 28 Dec 2012 - 20:03

Interesting notes, some of them I had already found out, and with some I tend to disagree but then again you made the mod and a way faster driver than me, so you must be right study

What I have lots of trouble with, is getting the tires to temperature. I tend to drive veeeery smoothly and have a hard time generating enough heat. My runs on the qualy softs usually are around 85-92º, never at 100º Suspect (Albeit with perfect temperature distribution all over the tire) And the worst thing is that I have no idea how to heat them more without driving stupidly and losing loads of time :doh:

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also a -1.00 front toe in will help to steer in the car as + 50 at the rear toe out

So much toe in at the front? And toe out at the rear? Suspect

I'm using the opposite right now, but will try out what you suggest, maybe it helps in this crazy track.

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David Jundt
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PostSubject: Re: 1991 F1 - Rules / Règlement   1991 F1 - Rules / Règlement - Page 3 Icon_minitimeFri 28 Dec 2012 - 20:32

Some things sound logical, yet I never realise them myself without help. Doh.

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Samuli Leinonen
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PostSubject: Re: 1991 F1 - Rules / Règlement   1991 F1 - Rules / Règlement - Page 3 Icon_minitimeFri 28 Dec 2012 - 20:33

Toe's help to heat up the tyres for sure and I remember a friend of mine stating this mod surely likes em high, not yet tested such high settings tho!



ps. Maybe some of these posts could be moved to "few advice about the mod" thread by admins? :hum:
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Patrick Marucco
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Plus je lis ce topic et plus je me dis qu'il va falloir que j'embauche un ingénieur de piste scratch study


The more I read this thread the more I think that I will have to hire an engineer to track scratch study

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Mike Becnel
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PostSubject: Re: 1991 F1 - Rules / Règlement   1991 F1 - Rules / Règlement - Page 3 Icon_minitimeSun 17 Mar 2013 - 22:39

Gui/admins,

For those of us who cannot qual on Thursday we lose half the laps we could be using. Those who can run Thursday get 24 (12 Thursday 12 Saturday) if they wish. Can we bump Sunday's qual laps to 24 and those who ran Thursday can only use 12?

This is a big disadvantage to those of us who are at work on Thursday when quals hit.

OR if someone runs Thursday and runs 12 laps they are done (or if they run 9 Thur they get 3 Sat)...etc etc.

Mike

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Samuli Leinonen
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Even though I'm not an admin, can't resist to post what I think about this. Razz

My opinion on this suggestion is firm

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  • It doesn't go with the historic season aspect.

  • Having fever laps means there is no room for error, gives a change for us in slower cars to qualify high.

  • With 24 laps in one session it is easier to improve laptime than with 12+12 laps in two separate sessions.

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Ben Warren
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PostSubject: Re: 1991 F1 - Rules / Règlement   1991 F1 - Rules / Règlement - Page 3 Icon_minitimeMon 18 Mar 2013 - 8:32

Have to agree with Samuli. If I was given the option for 24 laps, I'd probably skip Thursday completely anyway and just run the whole Saturday session, or vice versa. Easier to get into a rhythm.

Does take away the realism aspect too. I can't make every single Quali session, but I definitely enjoy the pressure aspect of having 'just' 12 laps each session, or just 12 in total if I can't make one. 24 laps kinda takes away the pressure aspect, doesn't make it as exciting IMO. Razz
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Guillaume Siebert
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PostSubject: Re: 1991 F1 - Rules / Règlement   1991 F1 - Rules / Règlement - Page 3 Icon_minitimeMon 18 Mar 2013 - 11:08

Agreed with Grumpy Samuli and Ben, plus having 2 sessions is already a compromise to give everyone a chance to attend to at least one of them. Wink
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Mike Becnel
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PostSubject: Re: 1991 F1 - Rules / Règlement   1991 F1 - Rules / Règlement - Page 3 Icon_minitimeTue 19 Mar 2013 - 0:25

OK I can live with that ( :grrr: ) :jp:

Hmmm...time to research our sick day policy...i seem to have a 6 hour F1 qual flu coming. :regl:

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Jon Lasa
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PostSubject: Re: 1991 F1 - Rules / Règlement   1991 F1 - Rules / Règlement - Page 3 Icon_minitimeSun 12 May 2013 - 21:29

Wrong post

PD: Thanks Tiago

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J.L. I know no human being can do miracles but Gilles could really surprise us sometimes
R.A. He beat me, and in France, but it didn't worry me. I knew I'd been beaten by the best driver in the world
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Tiago Malafaya
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Wrong thread Jon, we have a specific one for each race Wink

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Vadim Taciak
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PostSubject: Re: 1991 F1 - Rules / Règlement   1991 F1 - Rules / Règlement - Page 3 Icon_minitimeThu 16 May 2013 - 15:25

Tyre wear?
Fuel usage?

What are the settings in general?
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Alessio Campigotto
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PostSubject: Re: 1991 F1 - Rules / Règlement   1991 F1 - Rules / Règlement - Page 3 Icon_minitimeThu 16 May 2013 - 16:21

Vadim Taciak wrote:
Tyre wear?
Fuel usage?

What are the settings in general?

Should be default

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Jorge Martinho
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How can i join?
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Guillaume Siebert
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PostSubject: Re: 1991 F1 - Rules / Règlement   1991 F1 - Rules / Règlement - Page 3 Icon_minitimeFri 24 May 2013 - 21:03

Saying Hello or something would be a start.

Then you can hope for a free car for the season in this topic : http://historicsimracing.123.st/t1932-1991-f1-available-cars-voitures-disponibles

Or for a free car for one race only in the next race's thread.

And please read the rules first.
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Mike Becnel
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Question:Question Question Question 

I will be in Germany (Dusseldorf for the K show) from Oct 15 arriving back in Texas on the 19th exactly when the 2nd qualifying session begins for the race that weekend. Obviously, I will not make it out of customs and back to the house in time to qualify. I will not have my rig with me to qualify in Germany on Thursday.

If I miss both qual sessions will I be able to start the race at the back of the field?

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Drivers not having a qualifying time will be allowed to race if there is are less than 26 qualified and non qualified drivers. The fastest drivers during the last free practice session before the warmup will be allowed to fill the last empty spots on the grid.

Example : 24 drivers having a qualifying time are present for the race. This leaves 2 empty spots on the grid. 3 drivers with no qualifying time are joining the free practice before the race. Only the fastest two of them will be allowed to start the race.


so for sure we don t will be 26 so you can without problem Wink 

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Guillaume Siebert
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:top: 

Yes sometimes the rules are in the rules, weirh eh ? :hihi: 
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Mike Becnel wrote:
Question:Question Question Question 

I will be in Germany (Dusseldorf for the K show) from Oct 15 arriving back in Texas on the 19th exactly when the 2nd qualifying session begins for the race that weekend. Obviously, I will not make it out of customs and back to the house in time to qualify. I will not have my rig with me to qualify in Germany on Thursday.

If I miss both qual sessions will I be able to start the race at the back of the field?
Next time, come on at Nice at the French riviera, we have beers too (less good than at Dusseldorf for sure, but the weather is more sunny). :D
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Guillaume Siebert wrote:
:top: 

Yes sometimes the rules are in the rules, weirh eh ? :hihi: 
Ooops missed that when doing this study 

Embarassed 

Sorry but thx for info.

Ben Paulet wrote:
Next time, come on at Nice at the French riviera, we have beers too (less good than at Dusseldorf for sure, but the weather is more sunny). :D
That is somewhat in a "maybe" plan.

I am seriously considering extending my trip on my own dime to come to France and visit including a trip to Normandy. Probably will not happen though. Too much going on at work and I am on vacation (in Las Vegas) the week before this trip.

I am flying into Dusseldorf via Chicago on a Lufthansa flight in coach class. I am 6'2" tall and not terribly skinny. Thankfully they serve free pain killers (German beer) on the flights as well as wine. I will be in a festive mood when I land.

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Anders Nilsson
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I´ve read the rules about the upgrades . That you must use the righgt upgrade otherwise u will be DQ. But does it also ably when u want use older upgrades ?? Cause i´ve found out i like the BT59Y more than BT60Y Shocked  . That car is possible to set up the newer one isn´t. 

So  i´m i allowed to drive the old car for rest of the season Question
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No you have to drive the car that was really used for a particular race.
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Guillaume Siebert wrote:
No you have to drive the car that was really used for a particular race.
 Hmm ok fair enough Neutral  

 But does that also mean  if i still had been with AGS , would i have been denied to race ? Cause they pulled out from the championship the last two races scratch
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