1973 USAC Indy mod WIP

Ok thanks, I will get it.
Dude, I already have the Big Lebowski.

That wasn't her toe, Dude.

Her life was in their hands. Now her toe is in the mail.

Fuckn great work guys !!!!!!!!!!!!


Hey,

when i looked at the mod of WSC70 we had following situation:


a certain value of radiaotr-water temperature
a certain value of combustion engine heat up
same for friction (rpm)
and some speed dependant cooling

the problem was that the values were unreal and in top speed situations they were messed up, also right after the start they did things u cant even imagine in a real car.
what they did: they found a value whihc was around stable.


in order to add realism i had altered many values: heat dependant engine life;
heat from friction and combustion.

the result was taht u had the ReAL situation: the engine would heat up under acceleration, but with MORE inertia. the result was in le mans after 3 laps taht u could overheat it by excessive late shifting.
in addition the cooling at top speeds in lemans 350kmh was enough to bring the water temperature down slowly (but realistic) so that the higher spread to the oild brought the engine down very late but real.
the result is that it cooled down under braking because the spread would decrease.

it took me 3 hours but the values were realisitc, so realistic that u could trade the temp under acceleration all with more "inertia".

i am very eager to try to find such things and maybe i can do this in your mod.
in addition:
some mods have excellent tire feeling, some others have very generetic, phantastic feeling. i hope my 2 appearances proven taht i can very quickly learn and differentiate the things that go on so i would more than a wanna-be tester. i could distinguish all effects and do the testing.

Interesting Jens. Do you have some knowledge about fuel consumption editing too? rFactor seems to use a rather obscure formula that nobody masters.

Alberto Ibañez wrote:

Interesting Jens. Do you have some knowledge about fuel consumption editing too? rFactor seems to use a rather obscure formula that nobody masters.

do you mean for ai or for the real cars?

i think it work as a simple function of horsepower (unfortunately linear to throttle pedal) but i cant remember. what is the point?

some editing of the cars?
im proud of the porsche i made a realistic torque function so u would rather drive the porsche with some closer gears because they had a resonance effect they used. look at the torque curve of 1965 and then at the gpl mod 66

old carburetors have a not so smooth torque curve

The car you drive in the sim, your own fuel consumption while gaming.

rFactor uses a strange formula that doesn't always give predictable results. And for the USAC cars we have boost settings that should increase the consumption and complicate the problem.

Alberto Ibañez wrote:

The car you drive in the sim, your own fuel consumption while gaming.

rFactor uses a strange formula that doesn't always give predictable results. And for the USAC cars we have boost settings that should increase the consumption and complicate the problem.

yes i can research if u want, but if the formula doiesnt give predicatbe results the formula is wrong.

if u have exponential growth and estimate a square formula u wont make it fit


in rfactor the consumption is linear to the throttle.

sure its unpredcitable if u drive a shorttrack with many corners and brake alot it will go up.

but i dont understand what u mean: u mean 10% of wrong prediction? or 50 ?

imagine u go 300kmh with no wings. its totally different fuel consumption. i think the formula must be adapted. to find it out in single player a driving is a must. or rfactor would need to rcreate speed and grip tables to lookup the fuel.

in gpl the consumption was so: the cars had known fuel consumption. they cacluated them for each track. the only reason it worked is they caclulated it for the track.

they never couldve been any better than rF. because gpl doesnt know anything if the track is unknown

great stuff Jason, great looking cars in that era!

Peter Blom wrote:

great stuff Jason, great looking cars in that era!

Thanks   

Don't hold your breath too much guys, I tested it again today, it's total crap and Jason's skins are terrible.   

Latest one, the Gertrude Special :

Don't let the pic fool you. Turbocharger and 1000 bhp make it a serious contender   

1 year since the last post. Happy birthday

Progress is going on at a good rate. Stay tuned

Alberto Ibañez wrote:

Progress is going on at a good rate. Stay tuned

Well if so, i better get cracking with that sound

It's me, SkyWilk from nogripracing.

If you need some help on he physics, i might assist, since my massive previous project with the BRP mod is done.

Richard Wilks wrote:

Alberto Ibañez wrote:

Progress is going on at a good rate. Stay tuned

Well if so, i better get cracking with that sound

It's me, SkyWilk from nogripracing.

If you need some help on he physics, i might assist, since my massive previous project with the BRP mod is done.

We will be waiting to test any new sounds.

Would you be interested in making new sounds for the 1978 F1 mod ?

Well those are basically the same sounds of the 1979 season, and i think those are already at a good level and with my lack of time, i really need to prioritize things. But you guys can use my sounds for the TCL mod, since we are having a season of it here this year

It would be cool to see a few recent screenshots

try to contact vlm for the group c turbo sounds effects

couldn't harm , use my name flying dutchman if you need to
they permitted me for using there textures for update the 60s tracks awell

https://s288.photobucket.com/user/robertthurman1949buzard/library/

Went to Riverside Raceway museum. Got to go around the ropes for some pictures.

Damn I wish I had know that, would have asked you to check some things on the Eagle

Robert Thurman wrote:

https://s288.photobucket.com/user/robertthurman1949buzard/library/

Went to Riverside Raceway museum. Got to go around the ropes for some pictures.

Nice F5000s there

The trip was kinda spur of the moment. Wouldn't take much for me to go back. What are you looking for?
Only a little more than an hour away. You seldom see cars without an engine. So I focused on the 2 F 5000 cars with the rear suspension exposed.