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Oh man... the pressure is on now....
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Ben Paulet Racing Legend
Number of posts : 8291 Age : 50 Location : Cagnes sur mer France Registration date : 2009-07-29
Subject: Re: 1973 USAC Indy mod WIP Thu 27 Jun 2013 - 19:00
Great pressure is for great modder.
Jason White Racing Legend
Number of posts : 14725 Age : 47 Location : Ferndale, MI USA Registration date : 2011-12-25
Subject: Re: 1973 USAC Indy mod WIP Thu 27 Jun 2013 - 19:03
Seriously speaking, there is a long way to go yet. Just now starting to optimize polygon count on the models, which takes a lot of patience and fine tuning. I'm glad that I have the vast experience and knowledge of the HSO community to help with the mapping and physics end...
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Alberto Ibañez Racing Legend
Number of posts : 16788 Age : 121 Location : International Simracing Organisation Registration date : 2010-09-17
Subject: Re: 1973 USAC Indy mod WIP Fri 28 Jun 2013 - 10:58
There is no pressure at all Jason, nobody expected this mod and has been waiting for it long time (Unlike the VLM Junior mod ), plus the base models are so great that it could well make it directly into rFactor2 in some years. "It will be done when it's done (c)"
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Ben Paulet Racing Legend
Number of posts : 8291 Age : 50 Location : Cagnes sur mer France Registration date : 2009-07-29
Subject: Re: 1973 USAC Indy mod WIP Fri 28 Jun 2013 - 11:40
Of course, there is pressure on the Jason's shoulders. A big pressure.
Robert Thurman Rookie
Number of posts : 49 Age : 75 Location : california Registration date : 2011-03-13
The one thing that has always disappointed me about the mod community is the fact it is so Euro-centric. Other than NASCAR ,and a few very good Indycar mods, US series are not common. I've always wanted a good IMSA GTP mod. A lot of interesting cars there. When the FIA was restricting group C, IMSA was still wide open.
BTW Jason I like your avatar. Smoky, Jerry Karl at Ontario?
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Alessio Campigotto Racing Legend
Number of posts : 1249 Age : 27 Location : UK Registration date : 2011-12-29
The one thing that has always disappointed me about the mod community is the fact it is so Euro-centric. Other than NASCAR ,and a few very good Indycar mods, US series are not common. I've always wanted a good IMSA GTP mod. A lot of interesting cars there. When the FIA was restricting group C, IMSA was still wide open.
BTW Jason I like your avatar. Smoky, Jerry Carl at Ontario?
If you have GTR2, there is a mod which has both Group C and IMSA GTP with seasons 1983-1993, I believe a very strong conversion of VLM's PTC mod for F1Challenge. It's GTR2, so physics aren't on the same levels as some rFactor mods, however it still drives very nicely.
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Alberto Ibañez Racing Legend
Number of posts : 16788 Age : 121 Location : International Simracing Organisation Registration date : 2010-09-17
The one thing that has always disappointed me about the mod community is the fact it is so Euro-centric. Other than NASCAR ,and a few very good Indycar mods, US series are not common. I've always wanted a good IMSA GTP mod. A lot of interesting cars there. When the FIA was restricting group C, IMSA was still wide open.
IMSA was a really great series, but that variety also forces to create lots of different 3D models which in turn makes progress slower and such mods less attractive unless you are a real nut of the series and want to do it at all cost -like the VLM guys. Probably that is also a big reason why we don't see more american series. I'd really like to see a mod with the great IMSA GTO and GTU cars, but the amount of models would be staggering ...
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Jason White Racing Legend
Number of posts : 14725 Age : 47 Location : Ferndale, MI USA Registration date : 2011-12-25
The one thing that has always disappointed me about the mod community is the fact it is so Euro-centric. Other than NASCAR ,and a few very good Indycar mods, US series are not common. I've always wanted a good IMSA GTP mod. A lot of interesting cars there. When the FIA was restricting group C, IMSA was still wide open.
IMSA was a really great series, but that variety also forces to create lots of different 3D models which in turn makes progress slower and such mods less attractive unless you are a real nut of the series and want to do it at all cost -like the VLM guys. Probably that is also a big reason why we don't see more american series. I'd really like to see a mod with the great IMSA GTO and GTU cars, but the amount of models would be staggering ...
IMSA would be fun to do, but we would need lots of time and many hands...
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Alessio Campigotto Racing Legend
Number of posts : 1249 Age : 27 Location : UK Registration date : 2011-12-29
The one thing that has always disappointed me about the mod community is the fact it is so Euro-centric. Other than NASCAR ,and a few very good Indycar mods, US series are not common. I've always wanted a good IMSA GTP mod. A lot of interesting cars there. When the FIA was restricting group C, IMSA was still wide open.
IMSA was a really great series, but that variety also forces to create lots of different 3D models which in turn makes progress slower and such mods less attractive unless you are a real nut of the series and want to do it at all cost -like the VLM guys. Probably that is also a big reason why we don't see more american series. I'd really like to see a mod with the great IMSA GTO and GTU cars, but the amount of models would be staggering ...
IMSA would be fun to do, but we would need lots of time and many hands...
Virtua_LM are supposedly going to include IMSA GTP with GTO and GTS too, although this could be by the time rFactor 3 is out
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IMSA would be fun to do, but we would need lots of time and many hands...
Depends on which year(s) you focus. 1986 was the best year imo, with Porsche, Jaguar, Corvette, Nissan, March, Ford, BMW all competitive at some point. I'm no 3D artist, but I suppose GTP cars should be easier to model than Indycars
Jason White Racing Legend
Number of posts : 14725 Age : 47 Location : Ferndale, MI USA Registration date : 2011-12-25
IMSA would be fun to do, but we would need lots of time and many hands...
Depends on which year(s) you focus. 1986 was the best year imo, with Porsche, Jaguar, Corvette, Nissan, March, Ford, BMW all competitive at some point. I'm no 3D artist, but I suppose GTP cars should be easier to model than Indycars
In theory, yes, they would be easier to model than the Indy cars, especially those with exposed engines. It would depend on how complicated the interiors would get, I guess...
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Robert Thurman Rookie
Number of posts : 49 Age : 75 Location : california Registration date : 2011-03-13
Subject: Re: 1973 USAC Indy mod WIP Sat 6 Jul 2013 - 2:20
In case like this having a single interior for all cars is OK with me. But that's only my opinion. A good model-good paint and decent physics is what I look for.
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Subject: Re: 1973 USAC Indy mod WIP Sun 11 Aug 2013 - 13:29
Any updates?
Jason White Racing Legend
Number of posts : 14725 Age : 47 Location : Ferndale, MI USA Registration date : 2011-12-25
Subject: Re: 1973 USAC Indy mod WIP Sun 11 Aug 2013 - 13:34
Only one car left to model. Then I plan to circle back and go over each model with a fine toothed comb; cleaning surfaces, reducing poly in select places, etc. Physics and mapping will hopefully follow that...
EDIT: All cars now modeled. Refinement of surfaces going on now. Eagles looking good
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Jason White Racing Legend
Number of posts : 14725 Age : 47 Location : Ferndale, MI USA Registration date : 2011-12-25
Subject: Re: 1973 USAC Indy mod WIP Fri 16 Aug 2013 - 14:17
Came across these great promo pics of the Patrick Eagles in early 1973. Later, they picked up STP sponsorship and switched to the iconic Day-glo red livery. I think this is the version I want to drive once we get the mod up and running. I love the lightning bolt graphic
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Jason White Racing Legend
Number of posts : 14725 Age : 47 Location : Ferndale, MI USA Registration date : 2011-12-25
Subject: Re: 1973 USAC Indy mod WIP Mon 7 Oct 2013 - 14:40
Ok -- so here's my current plan:
Over Thanksgiving break and Christmas break, I'm going to go through each Alias model one more time, take out any details I deem extraneous (radii that don't add much visually, etc) and then re-assemble each model in 3DS Max 2010 (the version that has a GMT plugin). Hopefully I will be able to get all the models below 50,000 polygons. At least that is the goal...
After that, I will put the new 3DS Max files up on the FTP. If someone could assist me in January with writing out the GMT files, that would be fantastic (JP, David, etc). Then, hopefully, fingers crossed, we can start on the physics and actually drive these things
I'm sorry this is taking so long. So many other things going on, but I am determined to see this through
Jason White Racing Legend
Number of posts : 14725 Age : 47 Location : Ferndale, MI USA Registration date : 2011-12-25
Subject: Re: 1973 USAC Indy mod WIP Wed 20 Nov 2013 - 16:50
Entire race in one vid. Nice.
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Richard Coxon Racing Legend
Number of posts : 16590 Age : 37 Location : Sheffield, England Registration date : 2012-06-29
Subject: Re: 1973 USAC Indy mod WIP Wed 20 Nov 2013 - 18:19
Watched this yesterday, Awful accident that happened to Swede, Started reading up on him and found some stuff about his care in the hospital may not have been up to scratch.
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Jason White Racing Legend
Number of posts : 14725 Age : 47 Location : Ferndale, MI USA Registration date : 2011-12-25
Subject: Re: 1973 USAC Indy mod WIP Wed 20 Nov 2013 - 18:25
Yeah. Apparently he contracted Hepatitis B from a bad blood transfusion, and his liver failed. Very sad.
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Jason White Racing Legend
Number of posts : 14725 Age : 47 Location : Ferndale, MI USA Registration date : 2011-12-25
Subject: Re: 1973 USAC Indy mod WIP Tue 26 Nov 2013 - 20:12