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Alberto Ibañez Racing Legend
Number of posts : 16788 Age : 121 Location : International Simracing Organisation Registration date : 2010-09-17
| Subject: Re: BMW M1 Physics Mon 4 Oct 2010 - 16:00 | |
| OK, I have re-uploaded 0.99 to be sure all files were the correct ones, using those just tested by me and which are confirmed to be working. I have also added minor changes to the rear suspension, which should be almost unnoticeable, as I compared the new suspension graphic I found thanks to Carl and the previous job - and it seems my estimations were almost spot on. | |
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Alberto Ibañez Racing Legend
Number of posts : 16788 Age : 121 Location : International Simracing Organisation Registration date : 2010-09-17
| Subject: Re: BMW M1 Physics Mon 4 Oct 2010 - 17:47 | |
| Steve, further testing in Monaco has ocnfirmed that you were right! Apparently reducing engine inertia also lessens engine braking, so I had to rise again the engine brake map value, from your original "2" to "4" (Probably 5 would also be in order)
The updated file: http://www.mediafire.com/?embcigb8oixq0bg | |
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Carl Larrad Racing Legend
Number of posts : 6751 Age : 59 Location : Swindon , UK Registration date : 2008-12-20
| Subject: Re: BMW M1 Physics Mon 4 Oct 2010 - 21:21 | |
| I Have just got the go ahead to use Artsonika's cars that just leaves the French map car and the Andy Warhol car for permission .... I Know of 9 cars we could add to that field that are already painted so that makes 18 cars ... | |
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Carl Larrad Racing Legend
Number of posts : 6751 Age : 59 Location : Swindon , UK Registration date : 2008-12-20
| Subject: Re: BMW M1 Physics Mon 4 Oct 2010 - 23:00 | |
| HeHeHe Just got permission to use the French map car that just leaves the Andy Warhol car and the 71 car i have to paint | |
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Steve Parker Racing Legend
Number of posts : 2000 Age : 65 Location : England uk Registration date : 2008-12-22
| Subject: Re: BMW M1 Physics Tue 5 Oct 2010 - 9:56 | |
| Will try out new one Alberto carl the andy warhol car is in rfactor somewhere i have seen it , now to just find it again Alberto this site might be of some use to you http://www.racer.nl/reference/carphys.htm | |
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Carl Larrad Racing Legend
Number of posts : 6751 Age : 59 Location : Swindon , UK Registration date : 2008-12-20
| Subject: Re: BMW M1 Physics Tue 5 Oct 2010 - 10:26 | |
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Tiago Malafaya Racing Legend
Number of posts : 3384 Age : 47 Location : Porto, Portugal Registration date : 2008-10-05
| Subject: Re: BMW M1 Physics Tue 5 Oct 2010 - 12:26 | |
| Sorry guys...... been busy in the last couple of days. And it's not getting better | |
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Alberto Ibañez Racing Legend
Number of posts : 16788 Age : 121 Location : International Simracing Organisation Registration date : 2010-09-17
| Subject: Re: BMW M1 Physics Tue 5 Oct 2010 - 13:54 | |
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- I Know of 9 cars we could add to that field that are already painted so that makes 18 cars ...
Excellent. There were also two cars I would like to see added somewhen, one is the Motul one (Rally car IIRC but a beautiful one and with Gr. 4 specs): https://2img.net/r/ihimizer/img242/3175/1982m1darniche14wp.jpg and the other the Piquet car from Nurburgring 81: http://files.splinder.com/da97c6467214ff3c3ae7dd76c7919dae_medium.jpg ------------------------------------------ Thanks for the link Steve Tiago don't worry, the testing phase is over. Whatever could remain is just a matter iof bug-fixing and polishing minor details, but most of that I can do myself | |
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Steve Parker Racing Legend
Number of posts : 2000 Age : 65 Location : England uk Registration date : 2008-12-22
| Subject: Re: BMW M1 Physics Tue 5 Oct 2010 - 13:55 | |
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Tiago Malafaya Racing Legend
Number of posts : 3384 Age : 47 Location : Porto, Portugal Registration date : 2008-10-05
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Carl Larrad Racing Legend
Number of posts : 6751 Age : 59 Location : Swindon , UK Registration date : 2008-12-20
| Subject: Re: BMW M1 Physics Tue 5 Oct 2010 - 16:14 | |
| Ive asked Gianluca to give me a hand with tidying up some of the skins .... As you've all made such a good job of the physics it would be a shame for V2 to be let down by the paint so each skin especially 1979 will need to be retouched ... Before release i would like to make sure that we have all the Old Skins painted on the New Template as this goes much better with the New Model as most of the Old Skins have door and panels lines in the wrong place .... It may take a bit longer but i think its worth it ... If anyone else would like to help i can email the New template .... | |
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Carl Larrad Racing Legend
Number of posts : 6751 Age : 59 Location : Swindon , UK Registration date : 2008-12-20
| Subject: Re: BMW M1 Physics Wed 6 Oct 2010 - 9:40 | |
| Does anyone know if All the cars have Dunlop Tyres in 1979 and then Goodyear tryes in 1980 or was this just the works cars ... | |
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Alberto Ibañez Racing Legend
Number of posts : 16788 Age : 121 Location : International Simracing Organisation Registration date : 2010-09-17
| Subject: Re: BMW M1 Physics Wed 6 Oct 2010 - 14:00 | |
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All the cars have Dunlop Tyres in 1979 and then Goodyear tryes in 1980 or was this just the works cars ... Good questions. I looked at it a while ago, and couldn't find any info in all sources I have readed so far. I guess the answer will come from looking at the car pictures, all of them seem to have sponsor logos or even the tyre brand visible in white lettering (Good Year ones specially) | |
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Gianluca Desposito Racing Legend
Number of posts : 1303 Age : 48 Location : Naples Italy Registration date : 2009-09-14
| Subject: Re: BMW M1 Physics Wed 6 Oct 2010 - 14:18 | |
| On Racing Sport Car site in to relative section of Procar Championships, you can see the photo and the INFO, and there they mension only GoodYear tyres hoters users appear like unknown! http://www.racingsportscars.com/photo/Silverstone-1979-07-14.html http://www.racingsportscars.com/photo/Brands_Hatch-1980-07-13.html http://www.racingsportscars.com/championship/Procar%20BMW%20M1.html | |
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Alberto Ibañez Racing Legend
Number of posts : 16788 Age : 121 Location : International Simracing Organisation Registration date : 2010-09-17
| Subject: Re: BMW M1 Physics Wed 6 Oct 2010 - 14:54 | |
| I have been going again through my sources, and it seems that ALL competitors were given the same tyres, provided by BMW. In 1979 they started with Goodyear, in end of 1980 they had Dunlops. When was the transition? Difficult to say. In any case, it seems logical for a competition with the same cars to use the same tyres for all ...
Giancarlo, in the web you linked the pictures of non-official cars show clearly GoodYear logos on them, so it seems to confirm what I knew (If pictures are from that race, that is). | |
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Alberto Ibañez Racing Legend
Number of posts : 16788 Age : 121 Location : International Simracing Organisation Registration date : 2010-09-17
| Subject: Re: BMW M1 Physics Wed 6 Oct 2010 - 15:12 | |
| BTW thanks to your link Gianluca I have found data regarding the starting hours for practice/race/qualy, so I will fix that in the rFM file | |
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Sanjin Haler Club Driver
Number of posts : 140 Age : 42 Location : Rijeka, Croatia Registration date : 2010-02-17
| Subject: Re: BMW M1 Physics Wed 6 Oct 2010 - 20:24 | |
| tires in nosring 80 Goodyear. nice trip this chassis had. all way to group 5 http://www.racingsportscars.com/chassis/photo/WBS59910004301028.html can we add group 5 car one for fun. like this one. 81 was in Silverstone 12 h | |
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Alberto Ibañez Racing Legend
Number of posts : 16788 Age : 121 Location : International Simracing Organisation Registration date : 2010-09-17
| Subject: Re: BMW M1 Physics Wed 6 Oct 2010 - 21:09 | |
| So far only tyres I have seen in the works PROCARs pics are the GoodYears! But I have seen at least a pic of one private team with Dunlops in 1980, so it might be possible that along that year private teams were allowed to use them?
About Gr. 5: The mod was about PROCARs, i.e. Gr. 5 M1s, but the main issue is that we would need a new 3D model. Also, lots of work to paint more cars, etc. | |
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Carl Larrad Racing Legend
Number of posts : 6751 Age : 59 Location : Swindon , UK Registration date : 2008-12-20
| Subject: Re: BMW M1 Physics Wed 6 Oct 2010 - 21:17 | |
| I Know they used Avons in the revival | |
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Alberto Ibañez Racing Legend
Number of posts : 16788 Age : 121 Location : International Simracing Organisation Registration date : 2010-09-17
| Subject: Re: BMW M1 Physics Thu 7 Oct 2010 - 18:21 | |
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Carl Larrad Racing Legend
Number of posts : 6751 Age : 59 Location : Swindon , UK Registration date : 2008-12-20
| Subject: Re: BMW M1 Physics Thu 7 Oct 2010 - 18:46 | |
| WOW i cant wait to hear that ...wheres my earplugs | |
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Tiago Malafaya Racing Legend
Number of posts : 3384 Age : 47 Location : Porto, Portugal Registration date : 2008-10-05
| Subject: Re: BMW M1 Physics Thu 7 Oct 2010 - 20:01 | |
| I just love a good sounding mod..... | |
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Alberto Ibañez Racing Legend
Number of posts : 16788 Age : 121 Location : International Simracing Organisation Registration date : 2010-09-17
| Subject: Re: BMW M1 Physics Thu 7 Oct 2010 - 20:39 | |
| Don't keep your hopes too high, though. Extracting the sounds from a video is one thing, and making them sound in the game as good as they are in videos and real life is a very different thing. But the first step is already done in the right direction | |
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Carl Larrad Racing Legend
Number of posts : 6751 Age : 59 Location : Swindon , UK Registration date : 2008-12-20
| Subject: Re: BMW M1 Physics Sat 9 Oct 2010 - 9:39 | |
| hows the sound coming | |
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Alberto Ibañez Racing Legend
Number of posts : 16788 Age : 121 Location : International Simracing Organisation Registration date : 2010-09-17
| Subject: Re: BMW M1 Physics Mon 11 Oct 2010 - 12:22 | |
| Been the whole weekend out of town (It's a celebration day today here in spain) and just came back and fired up the computer. I have most of the sound samples I need, what is giving me more problems is doing the proper mix with them. That's where it becomes clear that I'm no sound guy at all, I guess, but I will keep trying. I'l also later upload the sound samples and give you guys a link in case anyone wants to give them a try (Or have his MS Windows startup sound replaced by the M1 engine start LOL) | |
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